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Those requirements are all fine if everyone who lives there is able bodied and has the money to pay for the water bills etc. I do find the going through someones drawers out of line though, and what happens if someone gets sick and cannot live up to those conditions due to their illness? I would not be able to live there, nor would I think anyone else should have to put up with crap like that. We dont live in Nazi Germany do we?
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HUD will be here October 1st. I plan on giving them an ear full :)
 Quoting: Éireann


What does your lease state? Did you sign on to these inspections and rules?

If your lease states they are able to do this- HUD cannot do anything about it, unless you live in a HUD OWNED unit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46235292

*nod nod* I know. I called the State Attorney General's office to get some understanding of our rights. I sent a copy of my lease to the State Attorney General (Assistant) that I'm working with and she said that since the lease doesn't state the specifics, I can not be bound to it. These are the issues I will bring up with HUD. HUD makes up the difference to the Housing Authority I rent from. If they don't pass a HUD inspection, they have to come up to HUD standards or close. The real issue here is the ability of the elderly tenants to meet the requirements of the rules the Housing Authority is laying out. I just can't see my 89 year old neighbor standing on a ladder scrubbing the siding!
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Are you a participant on HUD Housing? I am confused. Are you on the HCV Voucher program? I can help if I have more details. Do you have to do annual re-examinations for income determination and annual inspections through a HOUSING AUTHORITY?
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I rent from a Housing Authority which is subsidized by HUD. The land and buildings are privately owned by a board of investors in the property. They are reimbursed through HUD for providing income based housing. There is a HUD approved set rent and the income guidelines are Federal. For example, the apartment I rent would be $330 a month for just myself, or $500 a month for two people. Since my rent is based on my income, anything that I don't pay to the Housing Authority to cover that $330 a month for this unit, is reimbursed to the Housing Authority through HUD. That help?
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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Report them to HUD, say that during their inspection some guy sniffed your panties and ask for a damages settlement. Take that money and get GTFO!

Or-


Get renters insurance, spray paint a swastika on your door, break a window, and set the place on fire. Collect the insurance and GTFO.
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Don't think my building hasn't thought of this!

Maybe not the swastika part but still....

tounge
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09/03/2013 11:50 AM
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I am a personal care provider *one of several different jobs* in Northern Colorado. I would prefer to live and work in Texas but Colorado is far more lenient toward those in your situation.
Many of my clients are hippy type of people, they smoke massive amounts of cannabis and no one seems to care.
Most cannot move around much so they have people like myself who assist them in day to day things, cleaning, cooking, talking, laundry, etc.
Sounds like the place you live in is a fascist hell hole!
Then again what do you expect from Gov sponsored programs?
I will tell you this, the board of directors are receiving kickback money that the residents will never see.
This is why they put so much responsibility on your shoulders.
The other day I stopped by to take my client *an older gent* to go receive his monthly allotment of pot *the state/dispensary/care givers grow for them at a small fee*.
I was surprised on the return that the hippy people were having a drum circle/pot fest on the lawn, lots of pot and booze and some half naked seniors with nipple rings/tattoos.

Interesting time to live in yes?
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I am a personal care provider *one of several different jobs* in Northern Colorado. I would prefer to live and work in Texas but Colorado is far more lenient toward those in your situation.
Many of my clients are hippy type of people, they smoke massive amounts of cannabis and no one seems to care.
Most cannot move around much so they have people like myself who assist them in day to day things, cleaning, cooking, talking, laundry, etc.
Sounds like the place you live in is a fascist hell hole!
Then again what do you expect from Gov sponsored programs?
I will tell you this, the board of directors are receiving kickback money that the residents will never see.
This is why they put so much responsibility on your shoulders.
The other day I stopped by to take my client *an older gent* to go receive his monthly allotment of pot *the state/dispensary/care givers grow for them at a small fee*.
I was surprised on the return that the hippy people were having a drum circle/pot fest on the lawn, lots of pot and booze and some half naked seniors with nipple rings/tattoos.

Interesting time to live in yes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46069292

blink

I had no idea. blink I'm not even sure what to say. But to each his own. LOL!! I'm trying to get the image of granny with a nipple ring out of my head. Yikes!
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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Wow, a lot of rules, hang in there till you can get into section 8 housing.

If I may suggest, you have a perfect part time job right in front of you.

Start a cleaning business for you elderly neighbors: light housework, weeding, window cleaning and etc.

I know they have limited income but you could maybe charge 15 - 20 a session and do it once a month before inspection
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hf
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09/03/2013 11:54 AM
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I follow most of your threads because you sound so much like me at times! You aren't broken, you need a break, and that is hard to find these days.

I actually have an idea for you and Miggy both to make some extra money. I thought about doing this but I'm losing my vision and can't be on the internet much anymore. After not being able to work I finally had to start taking my early Social Security. Recently I started looking around for a senior's apartment that I can afford, probably like yours. I'm open to relocating, so I have checked on the internet for different cities. And, I have to tell you, there is a serious need for someone to make a website for these places, along with a blog explaining everything. If you do a Google search, you will pull up everything but what you're looking for, or just the paid crap that's not related.

You get paid by selling advertising space to these places and related businesses. You also join up with Google Adwords and let them place Ads on the website and blog, they pay you.

It's a start, one you can do from your home. I think you can get a Google phone number with voice mail free for the business.
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA

Now this is a good idea. I do have web site building experience. I haven't done any web sites since PHP first came out, so I'd need to brush up, but I can definitely do the research and put the information in one spot. Even if I am going to be in Ireland, I can still do the site for the benefit of people here at home. It really does need to be done. A friend of mine put together a website with forums that details all of the legitimate work at home jobs out there. He does well with the site and the place is a boon of information for people who have gotten scammed or are looking for a REAL telecommute job.

This is a good idea, Lady Enigma. A very good idea. Thanks!

I know Miggy has business experience. Lots of it!
 Quoting: Éireann



I'm so glad you like the idea! I was caught up in thinking I could do this myself, not for the money necessarily, but I realized the need.

For the last 10 years I designed websites, and internet marketing for small businesses, no e-commerce. I still have one client that I maintain their internet marketing to supplement my income. They are wonderful in working with my vision problems right now. So, if and when you do this, I can help you get started with the internet marketing tricks that will fast track you. Just let me know, I would be happy to do whatever I can to help out a fellow GLPer!

Best wishes!
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA


Will you please post the link or give the name to this site that details all of the legitimate remote work/work at home/telecommute jobs? Thanks.
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09/03/2013 11:56 AM
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I follow most of your threads because you sound so much like me at times! You aren't broken, you need a break, and that is hard to find these days.

I actually have an idea for you and Miggy both to make some extra money. I thought about doing this but I'm losing my vision and can't be on the internet much anymore. After not being able to work I finally had to start taking my early Social Security. Recently I started looking around for a senior's apartment that I can afford, probably like yours. I'm open to relocating, so I have checked on the internet for different cities. And, I have to tell you, there is a serious need for someone to make a website for these places, along with a blog explaining everything. If you do a Google search, you will pull up everything but what you're looking for, or just the paid crap that's not related.

You get paid by selling advertising space to these places and related businesses. You also join up with Google Adwords and let them place Ads on the website and blog, they pay you.

It's a start, one you can do from your home. I think you can get a Google phone number with voice mail free for the business.
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA

Now this is a good idea. I do have web site building experience. I haven't done any web sites since PHP first came out, so I'd need to brush up, but I can definitely do the research and put the information in one spot. Even if I am going to be in Ireland, I can still do the site for the benefit of people here at home. It really does need to be done. A friend of mine put together a website with forums that details all of the legitimate work at home jobs out there. He does well with the site and the place is a boon of information for people who have gotten scammed or are looking for a REAL telecommute job.

This is a good idea, Lady Enigma. A very good idea. Thanks!

I know Miggy has business experience. Lots of it!
 Quoting: Éireann



I'm so glad you like the idea! I was caught up in thinking I could do this myself, not for the money necessarily, but I realized the need.

For the last 10 years I designed websites, and internet marketing for small businesses, no e-commerce. I still have one client that I maintain their internet marketing to supplement my income. They are wonderful in working with my vision problems right now. So, if and when you do this, I can help you get started with the internet marketing tricks that will fast track you. Just let me know, I would be happy to do whatever I can to help out a fellow GLPer!

Best wishes!
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA


Will you please post the link or give the name to this site that details all of the legitimate remote work/work at home/telecommute jobs? Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3067115


Ive looked at a lot of them and most of them are crap.
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09/03/2013 11:58 AM
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grow pot in your personal garden space, send it to the colorado health provider to sell to the hippie housing cases-

take the money and GTFO!
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Are you a participant on HUD Housing? I am confused. Are you on the HCV Voucher program? I can help if I have more details. Do you have to do annual re-examinations for income determination and annual inspections through a HOUSING AUTHORITY?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46235292


You know?

I have spent the past hour on my porch conversing with my neighbors over these issues.

I don't even know the answers to what you have just asked.

Better believe I'm going to find out and quickly.

My rear neighbor is being evicted because she had too many overnight "dates" in the past 6 months without informing the landlord beforehand.

Last night she came home from a movie with her date and since she's being evicted anyway, decided to rub salt into the "wound".

She took a piece of paper, wrote the following and taped it to the manager's office for her to find this morning:


"B------,

It is 11:56 PM and I have just brought home a house guest who will stay the night.

We believe he will be gone by 8 AM but depending on how this goes I would like to request a "late checkout" of sorts for noon.

His name is ***********

His drivers license number is ***********

His vehicle is the red Honda, license plate *********, that is parked next to my apartment.

Sincerely,

D*******
Apartment #305
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09/03/2013 12:05 PM
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get a job
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grow pot in your personal garden space, send it to the colorado health provider to sell to the hippie housing cases-

take the money and GTFO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45595414


The stuff the elderly hippies were smoking was OMG potent.
Think Willy Nelson walking around in short shorts, another silver ponytail in an oversized thong. Gramma Cass, overweight with tatas she could swing over her shoulders, multiple piercings.
This is the future, a dark wizardly OZ type of future.
The old Indian shaman whizzing by on his Rascal Scooter, drunk and high, slamming into trees. I had to upright his scooter more than once while checking my clients mail.
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09/03/2013 12:07 PM
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Yet you can afford a GLP gold star.

stfu moocher
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Pack off, AC moocher.

Monster Skeeter
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hf
Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world.

Whatever feels good to your soul, do that.
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PTSD does not make one disabled lmao. I have PTSD from 2 tours to Iraq and I work. All this time spent posting crap on GLP you could be working so I dont have to pay for your lazy ass with my taxes.
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Are you a participant on HUD Housing? I am confused. Are you on the HCV Voucher program? I can help if I have more details. Do you have to do annual re-examinations for income determination and annual inspections through a HOUSING AUTHORITY?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46235292


You know?

I have spent the past hour on my porch conversing with my neighbors over these issues.

I don't even know the answers to what you have just asked.

Better believe I'm going to find out and quickly.

My rear neighbor is being evicted because she had too many overnight "dates" in the past 6 months without informing the landlord beforehand.

Last night she came home from a movie with her date and since she's being evicted anyway, decided to rub salt into the "wound".

She took a piece of paper, wrote the following and taped it to the manager's office for her to find this morning:


"B------,

It is 11:56 PM and I have just brought home a house guest who will stay the night.

We believe he will be gone by 8 AM but depending on how this goes I would like to request a "late checkout" of sorts for noon.

His name is ***********

His drivers license number is ***********

His vehicle is the red Honda, license plate *********, that is parked next to my apartment.

Sincerely,

D*******
Apartment #305
 Quoting: Miggy


nobody has children that will just beat the hell out of this guy?

street violence goes a long way in making people chill out and respect others.

someone should at the very least super glue the guy's door locks- home, office, and autos
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I am a personal care provider *one of several different jobs* in Northern Colorado. I would prefer to live and work in Texas but Colorado is far more lenient toward those in your situation.
Many of my clients are hippy type of people, they smoke massive amounts of cannabis and no one seems to care.
Most cannot move around much so they have people like myself who assist them in day to day things, cleaning, cooking, talking, laundry, etc.
Sounds like the place you live in is a fascist hell hole!
Then again what do you expect from Gov sponsored programs?
I will tell you this, the board of directors are receiving kickback money that the residents will never see.
This is why they put so much responsibility on your shoulders.
The other day I stopped by to take my client *an older gent* to go receive his monthly allotment of pot *the state/dispensary/care givers grow for them at a small fee*.
I was surprised on the return that the hippy people were having a drum circle/pot fest on the lawn, lots of pot and booze and some half naked seniors with nipple rings/tattoos.

Interesting time to live in yes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46069292

blink

I had no idea. blink I'm not even sure what to say. But to each his own. LOL!! I'm trying to get the image of granny with a nipple ring out of my head. Yikes!
 Quoting: Éireann


I could write a book. I think I might.
BTW you are very beautiful, you should move to Colorado so I can assist you ;)
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You're life is the sum total of your decisions. You can't support yourself but wish to be left alone. Which is it you want help or you want to be left alone? If you were self sufficient you wouldn't have these problems, when you rely on others to provide for you then you abide by their rules. Just the same as a child to a parent, etc. Beggars can't be choosers, what is your alternative? To live on the streets? Live with family? If you don't like your situation change it don't complain about a company providing you a service of letting you live in their facility subsidized or otherwise. I pay for everything I have and with that responsibility comes the reward of getting to make the rules.
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Freely give, freely so shall you receive.

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PTSD does not make one disabled lmao. I have PTSD from 2 tours to Iraq and I work. All this time spent posting crap on GLP you could be working so I dont have to pay for your lazy ass with my taxes.
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boasting about shooting at women and children in iraq and paying taxes makes one look foolish, a fairy, and a fag.
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Another frackin leech.
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cupofjoe

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Now fuckoff2
Éireann  (OP)

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Wow, a lot of rules, hang in there till you can get into section 8 housing.

If I may suggest, you have a perfect part time job right in front of you.

Start a cleaning business for you elderly neighbors: light housework, weeding, window cleaning and etc.

I know they have limited income but you could maybe charge 15 - 20 a session and do it once a month before inspection
.

hf
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I already do that - for free.
Eireann~

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Éireann  (OP)

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I follow most of your threads because you sound so much like me at times! You aren't broken, you need a break, and that is hard to find these days.

I actually have an idea for you and Miggy both to make some extra money. I thought about doing this but I'm losing my vision and can't be on the internet much anymore. After not being able to work I finally had to start taking my early Social Security. Recently I started looking around for a senior's apartment that I can afford, probably like yours. I'm open to relocating, so I have checked on the internet for different cities. And, I have to tell you, there is a serious need for someone to make a website for these places, along with a blog explaining everything. If you do a Google search, you will pull up everything but what you're looking for, or just the paid crap that's not related.

You get paid by selling advertising space to these places and related businesses. You also join up with Google Adwords and let them place Ads on the website and blog, they pay you.

It's a start, one you can do from your home. I think you can get a Google phone number with voice mail free for the business.
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA

Now this is a good idea. I do have web site building experience. I haven't done any web sites since PHP first came out, so I'd need to brush up, but I can definitely do the research and put the information in one spot. Even if I am going to be in Ireland, I can still do the site for the benefit of people here at home. It really does need to be done. A friend of mine put together a website with forums that details all of the legitimate work at home jobs out there. He does well with the site and the place is a boon of information for people who have gotten scammed or are looking for a REAL telecommute job.

This is a good idea, Lady Enigma. A very good idea. Thanks!

I know Miggy has business experience. Lots of it!
 Quoting: Éireann



I'm so glad you like the idea! I was caught up in thinking I could do this myself, not for the money necessarily, but I realized the need.

For the last 10 years I designed websites, and internet marketing for small businesses, no e-commerce. I still have one client that I maintain their internet marketing to supplement my income. They are wonderful in working with my vision problems right now. So, if and when you do this, I can help you get started with the internet marketing tricks that will fast track you. Just let me know, I would be happy to do whatever I can to help out a fellow GLPer!

Best wishes!
 Quoting: LADY ENIGMA


Will you please post the link or give the name to this site that details all of the legitimate remote work/work at home/telecommute jobs? Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3067115

[link to www.workplacelikehome.com]

It's a treasure trove!
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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PTSD does not make one disabled lmao. I have PTSD from 2 tours to Iraq and I work. All this time spent posting crap on GLP you could be working so I dont have to pay for your lazy ass with my taxes.
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PTSD isn't my disability. It's just sort of a by product.

Imagine standing in a store and suddenly you can't remember where you are or how you got there? That's my disability.
Eireann~

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Yet you can afford a GLP gold star.

stfu moocher
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Pack off, AC moocher.

:Monster Skeeter:
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hf

Go Lady Jane!
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Great thread. People shouldn't judge, anyone's circumstances could change overnight.

I strongly agree about the coconut oil. It is expensive, but does feed the brain and is anti bacterial and anti viral, worth every penny.

Two other things to get odors out, hydrogen peroxide and vinegar.

I'm so sorry people are so insensitive and taking advantage, it would be nice if that watering was going for vegetable gardens. I love permaculture, having an edible landscape.

Can you get around ok? Lots of people that do have full time jobs need people to walk their dogs while they are at work, and house sit while they are out of town.

hf
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Wow.... sounds really terrible.
I lived in subsidized housing with my kids after I split from my ex. He refused to pay childsupport and I was lucky enough to find a until that would only charge me 30% of my income in rent. (this is Canada...)

While the rules we lived under were not as bad as yours, I was also under the impression that whoever owns the building can set whatever rules they want.

We also had to keep our lawns weed free, water the grass etc. We were not allowed any kiddie pools or toys on the lawns outside our houses. No flyers were allowed to be left on the porch for more than half a day. If they were you faced a fine.
We had to install our own blinds etc, and this had to be done prefereably without making any holes in the windows....ever try to put up blinds without using screws? If there are holes (however minute) you pay a fine per hole when you move out.

They did inspections 2 -3 times a year...went through everything. Really creepy.
The management was terribly condesending towards the people who lived there, you were made to feel like you were worth absolutely nothing.

I was so happy once I was able to move out of there.

Hugs
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nobody has children that will just beat the hell out of this guy?

street violence goes a long way in making people chill out and respect others.

someone should at the very least super glue the guy's door locks- home, office, and autos
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This "guy" is a gal.

This is what I know about her personal ethics:

She is 30 years old, has one child, lives here rent-free, draws a salary on a 40 hour week when I know for certain she doesn't work at least 5 of them (BTW- she was supposed to be in her office last Thursday and wasn't and posted that she'll be out of the office until this coming Thursday).

She owns and has on the premises one dog, two cats, and an aquarium.

Though we aren't to paint our apartments other than white she has painted hers a bright azure blue.

Though we aren't to anchor anything to the outside of our buildings she has installed some weirdo plant stand onto her porch and ripped up the lawn in front of her unit and laid out rubber mulch.

She drives a dilapidated car.

And I bring that up for the next fact:

She has a boyfriend who lives in a unit a few doors down. He buys drugs off various residents. I can give you more information on this if you like- I don't want you to bash this until you are fully informed.

I don't have any of the "good" drugs like morphine. Thank God I'm only on anti-depressants.

But twice they have been delivered via the USPS to this complex in my name and to the office.

I NEVER got them.

I KNOW what happened. The envelope was opened, thinking they would be "good" drugs.

Even though they weren't worthy to this woman and her boyfriend they very well couldn't forward the opened envelope to me, could they?

The woman shuts the office compound down once every three months where she sells TVs, furniture, etc. that has been left in these apartments when people vacate (usually moving on to a nursing facility or having died).

The money she collects, she pockets.

I know embezzlement is going on, to say the least.

Even knowing all of this, all I ever wanted is for this woman to treat all of us with proper respect.

The fact that she's evil and vile leads me hope to believe that she'll be gone soon if our group can get our act together- something that isn't easy for motivating people who has give up, for the most part.

This thread has really helped me to begin this process.

Thanks to all for your ideas.
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As many of you know, I'm mentally disabled.

*pauses for laughter*

Besides having PTSD, I am losing my memory at a rather alarming rate. I have good days and bad days. If you ever follow my writing/posts, you can pretty much tell which days were good and which days were bad. Anyway, because I'm only 47 I am on disability but I don't qualify for Social Security for another 20 years. No worries. I am working at building my own business doing research. Not an easy task with a memory problem, but one has to do what one has to do.

Because my disability is only $699 a month, I need to live in a rent assisted housing facility. Here in Texas the waiting list for a Section 8 housing voucher is years long so I opted to rent in a housing program that is offered by the community where I live. It is overseen by HUD, but it is privately owned property which is reimbursed for the remainder of the rent due through a state HUD grant program.

Now because it is privately owned, they can make their own rules. Not a problem, right? Erm. Maybe. The Housing Authority is run by Board of investors. This is a very small town with about zip for crime and everyone practically knows each other by name. This board makes some really interesting rules. I'm just going to name a few to see what you all think. Now I'd like to point out that I am the youngest person in this complex which is made up of 16 one bedroom units. The rest of the people who live here are all retired elderly and are all widowed with grown children.

Once a month we have a housing inspection. These inspections get weirder and weirder as the months go by. While I can understand the reasoning behind some of the - rules - I can't help but find many of them personally offensive and horrendously disrespectful to the elderly living here.

1. They check my dresser drawers, closets, cabinets and other furniture drawers for hidden drugs or drug paraphernalia.

2. They require my apartment to be as clean as a hospital. I've been in some of the board member's houses and I can tell you that they do not live up to their own standards.

3. Even though we are all on a limited income, we are required to water the lawns around our apartments to keep bugs out. Anyone care to wonder a guess at how much my water bill runs? Some of these elderly live on far less since they were housewives and mothers and did not work outside of the home.

4. There can not be any dust, streaks, or dirt on the windows. All window blinds must be free of dust or dirt and not be damaged in any way. We pay to have the blinds put in, btw.

5. If we have a pet, we are required to pay a 300 dollar non-refundable deposit. Yes...a deposit which is non-refundable. It should be called a fee if it isn't refundable, but oh well.

Here are some of the other rules which really chap my ass.

1. Any family member who brings over a resident's personal pet, must pay a 300 dollar non-refundable deposit each time the animal visits and show proof of all shots. If the animal is going to live with the resident, the deposit need only be paid once. Failure to comply will result in eviction of the resident. Seriously.

2. All dogs must be kept on a short leash. Any one using a leash over three feet will be fined and the animal will be barred from the property. blink

3. All outside windows must be washed once a month. The siding and doors must be free of dust and dirt. Now wait a fucking minute. How is 89 year old granny suppose to fucking clean the god damned siding and wash windows that go 8 ft off the ground?

4. All areas outside of the apartment, including personal gardening areas, must be free of weeds. Failure to comply will result in a $50 fine for each day of noncompliance.

And it goes on and on. HUD doesn't have any such rules. I've spoken with the State Attorney's office and they said that because it is private property that the owners can make any rules that do not violate my Constitutional rights. Erm... what about the monthly searches? She said that is a grey area. A grey area? WTF? What about the watering? 120 a month in a Texas summer? I have to go for days without AC and my diet is far from nutritional just to comply with all of the stupid rules. I haven't been out to eat, gone out for a cup of coffee, or bought so much as a fucking candle for ambiance in eons. Can't afford it. No phone, TV or extras. This feels more like a punishment than a help. We're treated like subhuman criminals who live in prison. Our recourse? We can leave.

So for the folks who think that those of us who need public assistance to get by live footloose and fancy free - we most certainly do not. It's humiliating, degrading and totalitarian. It's why we call this complex "Nazi Square". And the rules keep coming. Sometimes two and three new ones a month. It's insane.

Thanks. Just needed to vent.
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Reading their requirements: how come they have the nerve to inspect in your drawers and such? I cannot stop to think that this world is damaged beyond repair. You pay the rent, for that period is yours, they have no right to enter or interfere. Isn't valid the doctrine my house is my castle?
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09/03/2013 12:33 PM
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I already do that - for free.
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Thank you for helping them, Eireann.

That has been the most humbling thing about this experience.

I've never met people who legitimately have such a hard time doing simple tasks.

They're not lazy.

They're ILL.
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Great thread. People shouldn't judge, anyone's circumstances could change overnight.

I strongly agree about the coconut oil. It is expensive, but does feed the brain and is anti bacterial and anti viral, worth every penny.

Two other things to get odors out, hydrogen peroxide and vinegar.

I'm so sorry people are so insensitive and taking advantage, it would be nice if that watering was going for vegetable gardens. I love permaculture, having an edible landscape.

Can you get around ok? Lots of people that do have full time jobs need people to walk their dogs while they are at work, and house sit while they are out of town.

hf
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I got some. I told Mom about it and she did the research, since she's smart about things like this, and she got me a jar and one for herself. I had read so many threads on here about it that I figured what the heck. Can't hurt!
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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What does your lease state? Did you sign on to these inspections and rules?

If your lease states they are able to do this- HUD cannot do anything about it, unless you live in a HUD OWNED unit.
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*nod nod* I know. I called the State Attorney General's office to get some understanding of our rights. I sent a copy of my lease to the State Attorney General (Assistant) that I'm working with and she said that since the lease doesn't state the specifics, I can not be bound to it. These are the issues I will bring up with HUD. HUD makes up the difference to the Housing Authority I rent from. If they don't pass a HUD inspection, they have to come up to HUD standards or close. The real issue here is the ability of the elderly tenants to meet the requirements of the rules the Housing Authority is laying out. I just can't see my 89 year old neighbor standing on a ladder scrubbing the siding!
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Are you a participant on HUD Housing? I am confused. Are you on the HCV Voucher program? I can help if I have more details. Do you have to do annual re-examinations for income determination and annual inspections through a HOUSING AUTHORITY?
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I rent from a Housing Authority which is subsidized by HUD. The land and buildings are privately owned by a board of investors in the property. They are reimbursed through HUD for providing income based housing. There is a HUD approved set rent and the income guidelines are Federal. For example, the apartment I rent would be $330 a month for just myself, or $500 a month for two people. Since my rent is based on my income, anything that I don't pay to the Housing Authority to cover that $330 a month for this unit, is reimbursed to the Housing Authority through HUD. That help?
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Actually, that is more confusing. What is the Housing Authority name and I will look up the rule for you.

It sounds like a tax credit property.

Most housing authorities are one of two option...one is the Housing Choice Voucher system and the other is public housing.
Neither of those are tax credit.

Public housing and Housing Choice Voucher are based on income guidelines and number of family members.
Public housing is owned by the government,where the government is the landlord whereas HCV is private landlords who own their own property, who the family chooses and rents from.





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