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User ID: 36834106 United States 09/03/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blah. I don't want more stuff, I just want to be left alone. I'm a grown woman. I don't need a set of rules to live by. I used to be someone once. Just because I'm broken now they seem to think that they can do with me as they please. i am not against housing by hud if i could i would live there...but rules should be implemented have u not seen the ghetto projects ? I don't know if i believe your once a month inspections...i have had friends that one gets sec8 and live in HUD housing and they do not get inspections once a month..they do get inspections once a year tho..... and i knew of the elderly hud housing and never heard of this from alaska to new york to Florida |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46206313 United States 09/03/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those requirements are all fine if everyone who lives there is able bodied and has the money to pay for the water bills etc. I do find the going through someones drawers out of line though, and what happens if someone gets sick and cannot live up to those conditions due to their illness? I would not be able to live there, nor would I think anyone else should have to put up with crap like that. We dont live in Nazi Germany do we? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46185594 These residents receive an utility allowance. Annually the utilities are reviewed and averaged. Example of how this works: Utility allowance is $200 Annual income of $12,000. $480 deduction for elderly, disabled12,000 -480= 11,520annual a adj income. (They can also deduct any medical, insurance, dentaletc they pay out of pocket) Adjusted Monthly income is $960 30% is $288 MINUS UTILITY ALLOWANCE OF $200 = $88 is what is paid as rent. If the utility allowance was $300 then this resident would have received a check each month for $12 to help pay utilities. SO not only are you the tax payer paying the subsidy you are also paying their utilities. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody has children that will just beat the hell out of this guy? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45595414 street violence goes a long way in making people chill out and respect others. someone should at the very least super glue the guy's door locks- home, office, and autos This "guy" is a gal. This is what I know about her personal ethics: She is 30 years old, has one child, lives here rent-free, draws a salary on a 40 hour week when I know for certain she doesn't work at least 5 of them (BTW- she was supposed to be in her office last Thursday and wasn't and posted that she'll be out of the office until this coming Thursday). She owns and has on the premises one dog, two cats, and an aquarium. Though we aren't to paint our apartments other than white she has painted hers a bright azure blue. Though we aren't to anchor anything to the outside of our buildings she has installed some weirdo plant stand onto her porch and ripped up the lawn in front of her unit and laid out rubber mulch. She drives a dilapidated car. And I bring that up for the next fact: She has a boyfriend who lives in a unit a few doors down. He buys drugs off various residents. I can give you more information on this if you like- I don't want you to bash this until you are fully informed. I don't have any of the "good" drugs like morphine. Thank God I'm only on anti-depressants. But twice they have been delivered via the USPS to this complex in my name and to the office. I NEVER got them. I KNOW what happened. The envelope was opened, thinking they would be "good" drugs. Even though they weren't worthy to this woman and her boyfriend they very well couldn't forward the opened envelope to me, could they? The woman shuts the office compound down once every three months where she sells TVs, furniture, etc. that has been left in these apartments when people vacate (usually moving on to a nursing facility or having died). The money she collects, she pockets. I know embezzlement is going on, to say the least. Even knowing all of this, all I ever wanted is for this woman to treat all of us with proper respect. The fact that she's evil and vile leads me hope to believe that she'll be gone soon if our group can get our act together- something that isn't easy for motivating people who has give up, for the most part. This thread has really helped me to begin this process. Thanks to all for your ideas. Good GRIEF, Miggy! This woman sounds absolutely vile. Selling people's belongings and pocketing the money? Dear Lord! That should be going to their families or at the least, Goodwill! If people only knew how many of the truly in need are victimized by the very people who provide the "assistance". There is a whole other side to public assistance that few people know about or hear about. I guess that's why I made this thread. Today's new rule about washing the windows and the siding was the last straw. There is no way Bebe or Tom or even Linda could do that work. Hell, I'm not even sure I can stand on a ladder without falling off. Kind of afraid of heights. But what is going on at your place is criminal, Miggy. Just criminal! Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 19193750 United States 09/03/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading their requirements: how come they have the nerve to inspect in your drawers and such? I cannot stop to think that this world is damaged beyond repair. You pay the rent, for that period is yours, they have no right to enter or interfere. Isn't valid the doctrine my house is my castle? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46173458 Look. I understand why they need to come into each apartment every month. But we have to keep it spick and span so isn't that enough? I've never done drugs. I don't have a porn collection. We can't own guns here. WHAT are they looking for? It's not about anything other than squashing our self esteem even further into the ground and keep control over all of us. And it works. I DO pay my rent every month and it now exceeds 50% of my paycheck even though it's only supposed to be 30%. I was led to believe when I moved here (through a local mental health facility) that this was a temporary place for me to get healthy, work on my "issues" and get back out there to become successful once again. It's hard to do that when you're constantly treated like you're worthless. After awhile you begin to believe it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45089832 United States 09/03/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also live in senior housing in Georgia. Being 77 yrs old and physically unable to do many of the maintenance requirements you describe, OP, I feel very fortunate that our management here is quite reasonable. We do have quarterly inspections, but they do not go in people drawers, closets etc. They just glance around to make sure the place is reasonably clean. Bug spray man comes monthly. Water is free. We pay our own electric, telephone and cable. Almost everyone has a small dog. We treat them like our children. Every once in a while the siding is spray cleaned. Our managers are wonderful people and the rules that are in place are reasonable and make the place beautiful. I think the managers have a lot to do with the Draconian rules in your apartment complex. As you can see they are not all so rigid as yours. I feel so fortunate to have found this place. I only wish you could find something better. Also. the quality of the residents is good and this helps a lot. God bless you and Miggy, too (Hi, Miggy) |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those requirements are all fine if everyone who lives there is able bodied and has the money to pay for the water bills etc. I do find the going through someones drawers out of line though, and what happens if someone gets sick and cannot live up to those conditions due to their illness? I would not be able to live there, nor would I think anyone else should have to put up with crap like that. We dont live in Nazi Germany do we? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46185594 These residents receive an utility allowance. Annually the utilities are reviewed and averaged. Example of how this works: Utility allowance is $200 Annual income of $12,000. $480 deduction for elderly, disabled12,000 -480= 11,520annual a adj income. (They can also deduct any medical, insurance, dentaletc they pay out of pocket) Adjusted Monthly income is $960 30% is $288 MINUS UTILITY ALLOWANCE OF $200 = $88 is what is paid as rent. If the utility allowance was $300 then this resident would have received a check each month for $12 to help pay utilities. SO not only are you the tax payer paying the subsidy you are also paying their utilities. The utility allowance depends on the state. Here it is 150 for all utilities which is just a deduction towards determining how much rent you pay. We pay gas, electric and water/sewage/garbage. My utilities with the bare minimum are about 200 a month. We have to pay a flat fee for water whether we use it or not so that's $60 already that must be paid. Texas is hot and dry this time of year. Grass takes a lot of water. I've never liked the idea of watering a lawn. It's just a waste of a valuable resource. If you live in a place where you don't get a lot of rain, make the landscape usable such as edible landscaping or landscaping that requires little to no water such as cactus and other Texas native plants and grasses. I'm not sure where you are getting these figures. We still have to pay our utility bills so whoever is getting that allowance money is getting rich. Last Edited by Eireann on 09/03/2013 12:48 PM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 19193750 United States 09/03/2013 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good GRIEF, Miggy! This woman sounds absolutely vile. Selling people's belongings and pocketing the money? Dear Lord! That should be going to their families or at the least, Goodwill! Quoting: Éireann If people only knew how many of the truly in need are victimized by the very people who provide the "assistance". There is a whole other side to public assistance that few people know about or hear about. I guess that's why I made this thread. Today's new rule about washing the windows and the siding was the last straw. There is no way Bebe or Tom or even Linda could do that work. Hell, I'm not even sure I can stand on a ladder without falling off. Kind of afraid of heights. But what is going on at your place is criminal, Miggy. Just criminal! I know, Eireann. I just believe that somehow the truth will come out. Maybe we were put in these places for a reason. Before I came these people had no clue they had any rights at all. Until reading this thread I had forgotten that we do. It drains me, living here. For one, I'm one of only two people in this building of 8 that has a car so people are always needing rides everywhere. Then there's the emotional support which thes poor people aren't getting from anywhere else. I am tired when I come home from my job and just like last night, there's always another 2 hours I try and be neighborly and encourage my friends. If I make it out of here there won't be an obstacle in the world I can't conquer. IF I make it out of here. Some days I don't think I will. But today this thread has encouraged me and for that I sincerely thank you. Mig |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46206313 United States 09/03/2013 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utility allowance is NOT determined by the state, it is done by actual consumption. Go to HUD.gov and see for yourself. I have worked in the housing field for 20 years in 7 states. Why try to misleadneveryone that you are paying for water when it is deducted off your a DJ monthly income. You are getting the allowance. No one is getting rich off of this. I thought I clearly explained it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46206313 United States 09/03/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utility allowance is NOT determined by the state, it is done by actual consumption. Go to HUD.gov and see for yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313 I have worked in the housing field for 20 years in 7 states. Why try to misleadneveryone that you are paying for water when it is deducted off your a DJ monthly income. You are getting the allowance. No one is getting rich off of this. I thought I clearly explained it. E, Do you know what the word ALLOWANCE means? |
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Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good GRIEF, Miggy! This woman sounds absolutely vile. Selling people's belongings and pocketing the money? Dear Lord! That should be going to their families or at the least, Goodwill! Quoting: Éireann If people only knew how many of the truly in need are victimized by the very people who provide the "assistance". There is a whole other side to public assistance that few people know about or hear about. I guess that's why I made this thread. Today's new rule about washing the windows and the siding was the last straw. There is no way Bebe or Tom or even Linda could do that work. Hell, I'm not even sure I can stand on a ladder without falling off. Kind of afraid of heights. But what is going on at your place is criminal, Miggy. Just criminal! I know, Eireann. I just believe that somehow the truth will come out. Maybe we were put in these places for a reason. Before I came these people had no clue they had any rights at all. Until reading this thread I had forgotten that we do. It drains me, living here. For one, I'm one of only two people in this building of 8 that has a car so people are always needing rides everywhere. Then there's the emotional support which thes poor people aren't getting from anywhere else. I am tired when I come home from my job and just like last night, there's always another 2 hours I try and be neighborly and encourage my friends. If I make it out of here there won't be an obstacle in the world I can't conquer. IF I make it out of here. Some days I don't think I will. But today this thread has encouraged me and for that I sincerely thank you. Mig We won't always be in the boat we are in, but thank goodness it isn't sinking even if it isn't the fastest or the fanciest boat :) I know that my research business is going to work out. I don't think it was coincidence that I studied all of those languages and married a Dutchman. I can do research in three languages and his brother-in-law already has a business doing translations so adding my skill set to his business would work out for both of us. I'm not going to be on disability forever. I'm sick of the paperwork and sick to death of being told how, what, where and when especially when the people doing the telling don't abide by the standards they expect of me. Screw that. They feel like they are entitled to manage me because I have a need? Oops. Who knew all of those years I was working and paying into the system that I could use that power over people of lesser advantage. I never minded having money taken out of my paycheck to put into "The Fund" because I knew one day my mom or dad or maybe my co-worker might need help. It's just not a big deal. For the few who abuse pubic assistance, there are real people who get far less help and are required to do far more to receive it. I don't mind the community service part, I just don't like the stupid rules like the 3ft dog leash. I mean what are they going to do... measure it? And the window and siding washing thing is what really set me off today. That's just unreasonable. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45978182 United States 09/03/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, a lot of rules, hang in there till you can get into section 8 housing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45978182 If I may suggest, you have a perfect part time job right in front of you. Start a cleaning business for you elderly neighbors: light housework, weeding, window cleaning and etc. I know they have limited income but you could maybe charge 15 - 20 a session and do it once a month before inspection. I already do that - for free. Well I am not surprised. I can tell from all of your threads and comments, that you have a good soul. It was just an idea, instead of pooling your money together and paying someone else to do it. Stay strong and sweet!! |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget when Boehner said on the White House press conference that the government will start seeking reimbursement for federal aid given out starting in fiscal year 2014. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15789117 Did he really? Well guess a lot of elderly will be homeless. I'm not sure how they are going to pay it back on $500 a month of Social Security. What about the money they already paid in for all the years they worked? I mean, I figured my portion that I paid in having worked since I was 14. I've taken FAR less then I paid in. FAR less. Do they take that into account? Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 46155084 United States 09/03/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget when Boehner said on the White House press conference that the government will start seeking reimbursement for federal aid given out starting in fiscal year 2014. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15789117 Did he really? Well guess a lot of elderly will be homeless. I'm not sure how they are going to pay it back on $500 a month of Social Security. What about the money they already paid in for all the years they worked? I mean, I figured my portion that I paid in having worked since I was 14. I've taken FAR less then I paid in. FAR less. Do they take that into account? I too have been working that long. It is so funny to see the posts about 'get a job loser', etc. These posters probably have not worked a day. God bless! So excited for you to go to Ireland. Wow. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15789117 United States 09/03/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget when Boehner said on the White House press conference that the government will start seeking reimbursement for federal aid given out starting in fiscal year 2014. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15789117 Did he really? Well guess a lot of elderly will be homeless. I'm not sure how they are going to pay it back on $500 a month of Social Security. What about the money they already paid in for all the years they worked? I mean, I figured my portion that I paid in having worked since I was 14. I've taken FAR less then I paid in. FAR less. Do they take that into account? He didn't say what programs would be effected by the reimbursement policy they put in motion, only that they will begin to start collecting on federal aid in a new venture to combat unemployment and welfare. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, a lot of rules, hang in there till you can get into section 8 housing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45978182 If I may suggest, you have a perfect part time job right in front of you. Start a cleaning business for you elderly neighbors: light housework, weeding, window cleaning and etc. I know they have limited income but you could maybe charge 15 - 20 a session and do it once a month before inspection. I already do that - for free. Well I am not surprised. I can tell from all of your threads and comments, that you have a good soul. It was just an idea, instead of pooling your money together and paying someone else to do it. Stay strong and sweet!! Thanks :) Anyone would do the same for their elderly neighbor. I do the watering for three of the ladies who live here. One is in a wheelchair and there are just some places she can't reach. The two other ladies just can't. One is COPD from Asthma and the other is so blind she couldn't see to do it. I weed their flower beds and walk ways. Sweep. They are really great people. All of them have their own stories and life philosophies and they are just... precious. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget when Boehner said on the White House press conference that the government will start seeking reimbursement for federal aid given out starting in fiscal year 2014. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15789117 Did he really? Well guess a lot of elderly will be homeless. I'm not sure how they are going to pay it back on $500 a month of Social Security. What about the money they already paid in for all the years they worked? I mean, I figured my portion that I paid in having worked since I was 14. I've taken FAR less then I paid in. FAR less. Do they take that into account? He didn't say what programs would be effected by the reimbursement policy they put in motion, only that they will begin to start collecting on federal aid in a new venture to combat unemployment and welfare. Is it just me or does that program make zero sense? I need to Google and get the goods on what he said. Thanks for the heads up. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am. And unemployed European atm, but not for long. He just got an offer that, for lack of a better way of wording it, is straight from God. He has always helped me out when he was working. Any money he paid I claimed on my taxes and reported as extra income. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45089832 United States 09/03/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to add to my earlier reply - I mentioned the washing of the siding and outside windows. There is budgeted amount that is more or less spent at the discretion of the managers. This goes toward washing the windows and siding,lawn care, trash, landscaping, parking lot resurfacing, etc. This amount MUST be spent during the fiscal year and anything unspent is returned to the corporation. This is a great plan for honest managers and owners, but one can see how it could be abused by the unscrupulous. Our managers are a husband and wife team who are very spiritual and feel very strongly that everything that they do should be approved by God. They feel that inspections are intrusive and for that reason they try to preserve our privacy as much as possible. I feel blessed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45978182 United States 09/03/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I am not surprised. I can tell from all of your threads and comments, that you have a good soul. It was just an idea, instead of pooling your money together and paying someone else to do it. Stay strong and sweet!! Thanks :) Anyone would do the same for their elderly neighbor. I do the watering for three of the ladies who live here. One is in a wheelchair and there are just some places she can't reach. The two other ladies just can't. One is COPD from Asthma and the other is so blind she couldn't see to do it. I weed their flower beds and walk ways. Sweep. They are really great people. All of them have their own stories and life philosophies and they are just... precious. If only everyone was "as nice" to one another |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blah. I don't want more stuff, I just want to be left alone. I'm a grown woman. I don't need a set of rules to live by. I used to be someone once. Just because I'm broken now they seem to think that they can do with me as they please. i am not against housing by hud if i could i would live there...but rules should be implemented have u not seen the ghetto projects ? I don't know if i believe your once a month inspections...i have had friends that one gets sec8 and live in HUD housing and they do not get inspections once a month..they do get inspections once a year tho..... and i knew of the elderly hud housing and never heard of this from alaska to new york to Florida This is a Housing Authority which is subsidized by HUD. This is not run by HUD. It is a privately owned property that provides a community service. They are allowed to make whatever rules they see fit. And yes, I've seen some of the housing projects in Dallas and in Washington, D.C. It is heart wrenching to look at and I don't understand how people can live like that. When my outside is disorganized I don't feel organized on the inside. I've always felt that having a clean and organized surrounding helps you feel better. I don't know if it is just laziness on their part or depression, but no - I couldn't live in a place that was all junked up and everything broken and smashed. There should be requirements. Even when I rented a house or an apartment before I moved here there were rules, no-nos and expectations. I just think some of the ones here are unreasonable. The monthly inspection being one of them. If this were a HUD (federally owned and managed) facility, many of these rules would be against federal guidelines. But since it is a privately owned property, they can pretty much do what they like. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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User ID: 28219729 United States 09/03/2013 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am. And unemployed European atm, but not for long. He just got an offer that, for lack of a better way of wording it, is straight from God. He has always helped me out when he was working. Any money he paid I claimed on my taxes and reported as extra income. why not move there? or him here? it must be hard living apart. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to add to my earlier reply - I mentioned the washing of the siding and outside windows. There is budgeted amount that is more or less spent at the discretion of the managers. This goes toward washing the windows and siding,lawn care, trash, landscaping, parking lot resurfacing, etc. This amount MUST be spent during the fiscal year and anything unspent is returned to the corporation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45089832 This is a great plan for honest managers and owners, but one can see how it could be abused by the unscrupulous. Our managers are a husband and wife team who are very spiritual and feel very strongly that everything that they do should be approved by God. They feel that inspections are intrusive and for that reason they try to preserve our privacy as much as possible. I feel blessed. WOW. I wish our managers thought like your managers do :) That's awesome. But yes, this is my concern. If we are doing the watering, weeding, window washing, then who is getting the money set aside for property upkeep? Surely this can't be legal. If isn't illegal, it certainly is unethical. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46115236 United States 09/03/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Live with the rules if your rent is being subsidized by the tax base. OR, start that business and struggle for yourself with fewer rules. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46235292 running a business, fewer rules?!?!?!? You must not have a business, I spend a lot of my time not running my business but reading the nearly endless, and constantly revised, list of rules I must follow or lose everything. |
Éireann
(OP) User ID: 46125577 United States 09/03/2013 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utility allowance is NOT determined by the state, it is done by actual consumption. Go to HUD.gov and see for yourself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46206313 I have worked in the housing field for 20 years in 7 states. Why try to misleadneveryone that you are paying for water when it is deducted off your a DJ monthly income. You are getting the allowance. No one is getting rich off of this. I thought I clearly explained it. E, Do you know what the word ALLOWANCE means? I thought I did, but when they figured up my rent payment, she explained that the utility allowance was a deduction from my actual "stated income" and used to determine the portion of rent I would pay. I'm not very money smart and I trust people. It's her job, after-all, to know how to figure all of that stuff out. Maybe I'm too trusting. I honestly don't know how this welfare thing works. I figure they know what they are doing. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |