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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32382571 United States 02/04/2014 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wave of capital destruction which many have been warning about for the last few years, is now breaking like a tsunami – Poland, Ireland, Spain, Germany, and the rest of the Euro-zone are being inundated with failures and the overhang of immediate risk is effectively unsurvivable for the currency union, at this point. Quoting: LT Prepper The US is actually in just as acute and critical a fiscal and economic predicament – The “Federal Reserve” is out of functional options (save for outright confiscation) as Bloomberg reported in July 2010: delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.” In addition to the intractable Federal fiscal profligacy, 44 out of our 50 states are functionally insolvent, as well as hundreds of municipalities and municipal sub-entities such as school districts and water districts on the verge of bankruptcy. In accordance with 10th Amendment law, however, US States *cannot* file bankruptcy in Federal Court, and there is no other legal precedent for administering such a restructuring of a state government - so any default of a state will, by definition, be "chaos at it's fastest and finest" as creditors jockey in the political sphere for satisfaction. Interestingly, many states also restrict the ability of municipalities to file bankruptcy – only 12 States provide blanket authorization for a city to file Chapter 9, and yet a full 22 States prevent a municipal entity from filing Chapter 9 proceedings altogether. With all of this unmanageable debt, and no way to administer and clear it in a lawful fashion through bankruptcy proceedings, the US, the States, and even lesser entities are now committed to confiscation of personal assets, and the imposition of martial Law which this will necessitate. This is why FED.GOV is stocking up on bullets, armor, and survival supplies. They intend to confiscate you to death, but they suspect you may fight back. Read the whole article here, including links to all source - [link to ncrenegade.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515146 United States 02/04/2014 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wave of capital destruction which many have been warning about for the last few years, is now breaking like a tsunami – Poland, Ireland, Spain, Germany, and the rest of the Euro-zone are being inundated with failures and the overhang of immediate risk is effectively unsurvivable for the currency union, at this point. Quoting: LT Prepper The US is actually in just as acute and critical a fiscal and economic predicament – The “Federal Reserve” is out of functional options (save for outright confiscation) as Bloomberg reported in July 2010: delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.” In addition to the intractable Federal fiscal profligacy, 44 out of our 50 states are functionally insolvent, as well as hundreds of municipalities and municipal sub-entities such as school districts and water districts on the verge of bankruptcy. In accordance with 10th Amendment law, however, US States *cannot* file bankruptcy in Federal Court, and there is no other legal precedent for administering such a restructuring of a state government - so any default of a state will, by definition, be "chaos at it's fastest and finest" as creditors jockey in the political sphere for satisfaction. Interestingly, many states also restrict the ability of municipalities to file bankruptcy – only 12 States provide blanket authorization for a city to file Chapter 9, and yet a full 22 States prevent a municipal entity from filing Chapter 9 proceedings altogether. With all of this unmanageable debt, and no way to administer and clear it in a lawful fashion through bankruptcy proceedings, the US, the States, and even lesser entities are now committed to confiscation of personal assets, and the imposition of martial Law which this will necessitate. This is why FED.GOV is stocking up on bullets, armor, and survival supplies. They intend to confiscate you to death, but they suspect you may fight back. Read the whole article here, including links to all source - [link to ncrenegade.com] 5*, the plans were laid, they were "dry-run" stress tested in the fall of 2013, now they've flipped the switch...no going back. myRA will allow them to confiscate a good chunk of retirement savings from avg middle class Americans, but they will have to do more than just that... Even so, this will NOT solve their problem, which is runaway spending and the buying of votes. It will just kick the can down the road a few more years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53887136 United States 02/04/2014 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yet they have money to invade Syria. They have the money to pay freeloaders on welfare, food stamps and they pay more to young punks on Social Security Disability than they do the older people on regular social security. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9387032 They have the money to allow corporations to pay little to no tax. In fact they had the money to bail out Wall Street for no reason what-so-ever. Then add in the money they have for Obama phones. Then look at the cops. They have the newest cars loaded down with all sorts of high tech equipment. In most major cities and even in the suburbs they had the money to put cameras on all the red light intersections. Then consider the money they have to hand out lavish retirerment packages to even the lower level Government workers, way above private enterprise. yeah an stimulus after stimulus that don do nothin cept line someones pocket bigtime the lonnies truly are runnin the nuthouse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 930247 United States 02/04/2014 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crash Remember that the January 31st settlements date came last week and if any major bank (J.P. Morgan?) was unable to deliver physical gold or make other payments, they will have been given until around mid-February to come up with it before they are liquidated. Remember how US Treasure Secretary Jacob Lew recently warned the US government would run out of money on February 7th and could use tricks to keep it going for a few days beyond that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53892311 United States 02/04/2014 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I say bring Martial Law on so we can put the NEW WORLD ORDER out of buisness PERMANENTLY. People are already prepared for this and in the END we get this COUNTRY BACK FOR OURSELVES so we can all be free and have a REAL ERA OF PROSPERITY.... |
JoeTheMechanic User ID: 6901149 United States 02/04/2014 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You Don’t get it DUDE! Man Created "MONEY" it’s an illusion, a construct! Which means it’s like everything else it is what you make it! It is as you envision it! Fear not the prime rate! Food, Shelter, water everything else is a luxury. Risk is a part of life! To have more than these 3 Nasserites people even risk their lives! [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47382801 United States 02/04/2014 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is 'labor-backed' account numbers in the form of commercial paper. But keep calling it "money", you will keep being confused. You will not understand where the value for this paper is coming from--> energy and labor. Dolor/Dollar= pain. Pain translates to labor. A dollar amount = a labor amount. They are devaluing the American Dollar... They are devaluing American labor. |
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The Fake Agent User ID: 18581403 United States 02/04/2014 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do I get the impression that when a hardcore prepper post's stuff like this they have a huge doom boner? Almost like they want the world to collapse so they can say they were right. There is no doubt that things are bad but you have to use common sense. It benefits EVERYONE to avoid a catastrophic collapse! TPTB are prepared for the worst but hoping for the best and will prop up our economy for many decades to come. Everyone should be prepared to some extent but I promise you its not gonna happen like in the movies people . |
Dead Banker User ID: 6901149 United States 02/04/2014 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fiat currency is not money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47382801 It is 'labor-backed' account numbers in the form of commercial paper. But keep calling it "money", you will keep being confused. You will not understand where the value for this paper is coming from--> energy and labor. Dolor/Dollar= pain. Pain translates to labor. A dollar amount = a labor amount. They are devaluing the American Dollar... They are devaluing American labor. Fiat currency is not money. It is 'labor-backed' account numbers in the form of commercial paper. But keep calling it "money", you will keep being confused. You will not understand where the value for this paper is coming from--> energy and labor. Dolor/Dollar= pain. Pain translates to labor. A dollar amount = a labor amount. They are devaluing the American Dollar... They are devaluing American labor. [/quote True that, we are not on the GOLD standard anymore! !!!!Quality and quantity of GDP = Value of Currency not GOLD!!!! A nation’s problems start when those nations’ lean holders SAY your money is worthless we need you to pay us in gold! And devaluating that nation’s currency is a step in that direction! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50233091 United States 02/04/2014 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yet they have money to invade Syria. They have the money to pay freeloaders on welfare, food stamps and they pay more to young punks on Social Security Disability than they do the older people on regular social security. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9387032 They have the money to allow corporations to pay little to no tax. In fact they had the money to bail out Wall Street for no reason what-so-ever. Then add in the money they have for Obama phones. Then look at the cops. They have the newest cars loaded down with all sorts of high tech equipment. In most major cities and even in the suburbs they had the money to put cameras on all the red light intersections. Then consider the money they have to hand out lavish retirerment packages to even the lower level Government workers, way above private enterprise. Doesn't matter anymore. There isn't enough money on the entire planet to pay off this debt. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889420 United States 02/04/2014 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | confiscate what? the people is so feckin broke the only ones have a heap of money are the ruling class, you expect the elites to turn their own fortunes in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47342726 :money: The elites are exempt from the confiscation, but they are going to confiscate everything in the middle class |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6179635 United States 02/04/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are so fuckin stoooooooooopid. You act like TPTB need money/ Like a bank account like everyone else does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789236 TPTB create trillions or quadrillions at a whim and spend it as they see fit to reshape the world. That is their real power. Their power is the mirage of the exclusive right to create credit because you let them have the mirage. Take it away and they have no power Toto. You obviously do to understand the principles of our economy, do you? Printing more money devalues existing money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1601759 Canada 02/04/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | confiscate what? the people is so feckin broke the only ones have a heap of money are the ruling class, you expect the elites to turn their own fortunes in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47342726 :money: Yes, because there are people with lots of money and the Elite. From where do you think they got the money in Cypress bail-in? Not from the regular Joe who has $500-$1000 deposit in the bank. . |
Kirk
User ID: 53556086 United States 02/04/2014 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yet they have money to invade Syria. They have the money to pay freeloaders on welfare, food stamps and they pay more to young punks on Social Security Disability than they do the older people on regular social security. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9387032 They have the money to allow corporations to pay little to no tax. In fact they had the money to bail out Wall Street for no reason what-so-ever. Then add in the money they have for Obama phones. Then look at the cops. They have the newest cars loaded down with all sorts of high tech equipment. In most major cities and even in the suburbs they had the money to put cameras on all the red light intersections. Then consider the money they have to hand out lavish retirerment packages to even the lower level Government workers, way above private enterprise. they just print the shit and food went up 20% last year. they will print it until people use it to start kindling a days wages is a quart of wheat or 3 quarts of barley. Revelation 6:6 Last Edited by Kirk on 02/04/2014 01:47 PM Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889885 United States 02/04/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yet they have money to invade Syria. They have the money to pay freeloaders on welfare, food stamps and they pay more to young punks on Social Security Disability than they do the older people on regular social security. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9387032 They have the money to allow corporations to pay little to no tax. In fact they had the money to bail out Wall Street for no reason what-so-ever. Then add in the money they have for Obama phones. Then look at the cops. They have the newest cars loaded down with all sorts of high tech equipment. In most major cities and even in the suburbs they had the money to put cameras on all the red light intersections. Then consider the money they have to hand out lavish retirerment packages to even the lower level Government workers, way above private enterprise. That is the point. They steal that money from you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53457976 United States 02/04/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wave of capital destruction which many have been warning about for the last few years, is now breaking like a tsunami – Poland, Ireland, Spain, Germany, and the rest of the Euro-zone are being inundated with failures and the overhang of immediate risk is effectively unsurvivable for the currency union, at this point. Quoting: LT Prepper The US is actually in just as acute and critical a fiscal and economic predicament – The “Federal Reserve” is out of functional options (save for outright confiscation) as Bloomberg reported in July 2010: delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.” In addition to the intractable Federal fiscal profligacy, 44 out of our 50 states are functionally insolvent, as well as hundreds of municipalities and municipal sub-entities such as school districts and water districts on the verge of bankruptcy. In accordance with 10th Amendment law, however, US States *cannot* file bankruptcy in Federal Court, and there is no other legal precedent for administering such a restructuring of a state government - so any default of a state will, by definition, be "chaos at it's fastest and finest" as creditors jockey in the political sphere for satisfaction. Interestingly, many states also restrict the ability of municipalities to file bankruptcy – only 12 States provide blanket authorization for a city to file Chapter 9, and yet a full 22 States prevent a municipal entity from filing Chapter 9 proceedings altogether. With all of this unmanageable debt, and no way to administer and clear it in a lawful fashion through bankruptcy proceedings, the US, the States, and even lesser entities are now committed to confiscation of personal assets, and the imposition of martial Law which this will necessitate. This is why FED.GOV is stocking up on bullets, armor, and survival supplies. They intend to confiscate you to death, but they suspect you may fight back. Read the whole article here, including links to all source - [link to ncrenegade.com] To speak immediate doom while simultaneously citing a 2010 Bloomberg report is too obviously stupid to even be funny. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49602562 United States 02/04/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wave of capital destruction which many have been warning about for the last few years, is now breaking like a tsunami – Poland, Ireland, Spain, Germany, and the rest of the Euro-zone are being inundated with failures and the overhang of immediate risk is effectively unsurvivable for the currency union, at this point. Quoting: LT Prepper The US is actually in just as acute and critical a fiscal and economic predicament – The “Federal Reserve” is out of functional options (save for outright confiscation) as Bloomberg reported in July 2010: delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.” In addition to the intractable Federal fiscal profligacy, 44 out of our 50 states are functionally insolvent, as well as hundreds of municipalities and municipal sub-entities such as school districts and water districts on the verge of bankruptcy. In accordance with 10th Amendment law, however, US States *cannot* file bankruptcy in Federal Court, and there is no other legal precedent for administering such a restructuring of a state government - so any default of a state will, by definition, be "chaos at it's fastest and finest" as creditors jockey in the political sphere for satisfaction. Interestingly, many states also restrict the ability of municipalities to file bankruptcy – only 12 States provide blanket authorization for a city to file Chapter 9, and yet a full 22 States prevent a municipal entity from filing Chapter 9 proceedings altogether. With all of this unmanageable debt, and no way to administer and clear it in a lawful fashion through bankruptcy proceedings, the US, the States, and even lesser entities are now committed to confiscation of personal assets, and the imposition of martial Law which this will necessitate. This is why FED.GOV is stocking up on bullets, armor, and survival supplies. They intend to confiscate you to death, but they suspect you may fight back. Read the whole article here, including links to all source - [link to ncrenegade.com] NO DEFAULT!!! I'm so tired of this game of financial cat and mouse, it's never going to happen. Our entire financial system is screwed but, we are the leader in fake money and I know from experience they will just keep printing. Dow and others are fraudulently set at a higher mark, the actual number is more like 9,250. We will never see the financial collapse predicted by the liars and deceivers, we will simply just re set and be fine. Syria on the other hand will be our way out of the financial gloom we currently are under, so YES plan on them going after Syria to hold off the ( rumored )collapse of the dollar. |
Nikola Tesla
User ID: 51663264 United States 02/04/2014 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I won't be surprised that instead of them giving you a tax refund (if you are supposed to get one) they instead offer to put it into a myRA. Or force you to put it in a myRA. Quoting: AuroraB 52901399 That is an interesting thought. However, the economy runs on money changing hands between individuals and businesses. This creates what is referred to as the "velocity of money". Taking money out of circulation creates the exact set of circumstances occurring now. A stagnant moribund business environment. Reducing the general population's "walking around money" or "WAM" as I like to call it; makes for a dysfunctional business environment. "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53313762 United States 02/04/2014 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | confiscate what? the people is so feckin broke the only ones have a heap of money are the ruling class, you expect the elites to turn their own fortunes in? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47342726 :money: Yes, because there are people with lots of money and the Elite. From where do you think they got the money in Cypress bail-in? Not from the regular Joe who has $500-$1000 deposit in the bank. . IF "they" were to confiscate money from the elite, "they" would be confiscating from themselves. And the "fortune" of cash would be worthless, according to OP (no value dollar) nothing about this thread makes a bit of sense It's like listening to a preschool discussion about sex. Good grief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53889885 United States 02/04/2014 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do I get the impression that when a hardcore prepper Quoting: The Fake Agent 18581403 post's stuff like this they have a huge doom boner? Almost like they want the world to collapse so they can say they were right. There is no doubt that things are bad but you have to use common sense. It benefits EVERYONE to avoid a catastrophic collapse! TPTB are prepared for the worst but hoping for the best and will prop up our economy for many decades to come. Everyone should be prepared to some extent but I promise you its not gonna happen like in the movies people . Confiscations of property, including but not limited to land, buildings, fiat money holdings, and yes people's very bodies, have been happening on the margins for decades. It is on the increase and done more brazenly. And since the one's doing the confiscating are the one's who are servicing the interest on the debt of a bankrupt organization interest which compounds and can never be repaid, by design... The confiscations will decrease? No, you are right that TPTB will avoid a CATASTROPHIC collapse, they will simply manage the collapse while confiscating as much wealth as possible without martial law, and then when they need MORE, and people become unwilling, they will momentarily accelerate the collapse to a frightening proportion in order to justify martial law, enabling them to confiscate and redistribute your wealth at their leisure. Sorry for the reality check, but someone had to do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53313762 United States 02/04/2014 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is an interesting thought. Quoting: Nikola Tesla However, the economy runs on money changing hands between individuals and businesses. This creates what is referred to as the "velocity of money". Taking money out of circulation creates the exact set of circumstances occurring now. A stagnant moribund business environment. Reducing the general population's "walking around money" or "WAM" as I like to call it; makes for a dysfunctional business environment. One small sliver of rational thought in a vast desert of mediocrity. Just when I had lost all hope. |