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A thread for former Christians.

 
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No one chooses Jesus

God Chooses them and causes and changes them and causes them to believe in Jesus remember you where saved when you 1st believed through faith and this is not from you but a gift from God

God clearly said you did not Love me but I loved you 1st

how can some dead in sin love god ?????????????
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Yes your right


All put it as clear as i can you cant believe on your own and the only way you can believe is if the father causes you to its not up to you buddy God will harden who he will and soften who who he will

God is who He says he is he does not need you believing in him for him to exist is man going to put Gos on trail ? Gos is sovereign he controls your thoughts and actions and he will cause you to believe or not to believe there is no Free wil get the lie Free masons

7 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
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I'm a former christian. Once you realize its all bullshit you pretty much stop bring a christian.
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The dogma and hell and doom and death stuff is all bullshit yes.

But...did you ever encounter God?

Or just the fear and the dogma they spray all over him like mud?
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O yea one more thing Point Dexter

I'm not claiming to be self righteous I know I'm sinful and no good thing dwells in me that's why I need his blood

God dint come for the righteous but the unrighteous
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Yes your right


All put it as clear as i can you cant believe on your own and the only way you can believe is if the father causes you to its not up to you buddy God will harden who he will and soften who who he will

God is who He says he is he does not need you believing in him for him to exist is man going to put Gos on trail ? Gos is sovereign he controls your thoughts and actions and he will cause you to believe or not to believe there is no Free wil get the lie Free masons

7 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
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BINGO.

Thread: "FREE will" is a MYTH and always has been. But it sells books. Hell is big business.

Good to see my threads ARE bearinf fruit.

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Amen
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THE TWO BELIFIES IN JESUS

BELIEF 1
1. belief 1 PEOPLE CAN'T CHOSE AND BELIEVE IN JESUS ON THEIR OWN THIS WOULD BE A WORK OF THEIR OWN AND WOULD BE A SELF RIGHTEOUS ACT TO SAY THEY CHOSE OR BELIEVE IN HIM THEY WOULD NEVER CHOSE HIM OUT OF A SINCERE HEART OR OF SELF REPENTANCE THAT WOULD BE AN ACT OF SELF GENERATING GOOD WHICH DOES NOT EXISTS IN ANYONE THE ONLY REASON A PERSON WOULD SAY THEY BELIEVE OR CHOSE JESUS ON THE OWN WOULD TO SAY ONE THEIR IS GOOD IN THEM BUT IN FACT NO ONE WOULD WANTS TO HAVE A GOD BEFORE THEM THEY WANT TO BE AS GODS SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY WANT JESUS TO BE THEIR GOD & LORD AND SUBMIT TO HIM and make him their lord and savior something they would never do AND ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT THE ARE WICKED WITH NO GOOD WHICH THEIR PRIDE WILL NOT ALLOW THEY WILL ALWAYS CLAIM THEY HAVE GOOD IN THEM TO BOAST BEFORE GOD WHEN THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATS ALL GOOD THINGS COME FROM ABOVE AND THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT ONE THE LAW ONLY SHOWS WHO GOD IS AND WHO WE ARE NOT THIS TOTALLY ALIENS WITH PEOPLE THAT SAW MIRCALS AND BELIEVED AND PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THE CHOSE AND BELIEVE IN JESUS BUT JESUS SAYS I DO NOT NEED TESTIMONY OF MEN SAME THING AS GET AWAY FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL BORN OF THE FLESH VS EVEN THE DEMONDS AND ANGLES BELIEVE AND ARE CONDEMNED BELIEF ONE IS A SELF RIGHTEOUS ACT AND DOES NOT SAVE YOU.
BELIEF 2

Only God can cause people to repent and believe they would never do it on their own because they hate God and there is no good in them it's Purely by grace you are saved 1st he causes you to believe and causes you to admit you a sinner with a Godly repentance God saves you its only then by him that you know you're a sinner and you have His blood to pay for your sins and it drives out aLL fear and your confident and believe by faith with all insurance that your saved this faith and belief is generated by god otherwise your own heart would condemn and you would be in fear and would not belief god loves you because if look within you know you hated god and their is no good in you so it takeS an act of god to cause you to belief he loves you and his sons blood is for you only those WHO have been chosen in Chris Jesus SINCE THE FOUNDATIONS can feel the comfort you remember god is greater than our hearts this why the same word that saves some condemns others And this believe is different that your saved and he Loves you and knowing it was nothing you did on your own belief or faith no works of you at all THE FAITH IS FROM HIM For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9

Conclusion
What still stands

* So yes it still stands people can't truly believe in Jesus on their own it's not up to them so we can stop telling people they have to believe because it's not a choice and its something they can't do or even if they chose on their own its STILL to no effect
* And yes it still stands those how call and believe in the name of Jesus are saved some don't understand why they believe they just do god is able to make them stand and their self righteous is covered by the blood of him if they are chosen in Him from the beginning in Christ Jesus Hebrews 6:6 thing, we don't know always who are His and who is not wheat and tears He says by their fruits will we recognize who is in the vine and who is not God prunes the true vines so they produce fruits and cuts of the dead leaves and corrects them, the truth in us is not self generated but the works of Him and evidence and a token of His working in us "author and finisher" but those who are not he cuts off and lets them continue in their sin and harden their hearts ’23 And then will I profess unto them, ‘I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.
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THE TWO BELIFIES IN JESUS

BELIEF 1
1. belief 1 PEOPLE CAN'T CHOSE AND BELIEVE IN JESUS ON THEIR OWN THIS WOULD BE A WORK OF THEIR OWN AND WOULD BE A SELF RIGHTEOUS ACT TO SAY THEY CHOSE OR BELIEVE IN HIM THEY WOULD NEVER CHOSE HIM OUT OF A SINCERE HEART OR OF SELF REPENTANCE THAT WOULD BE AN ACT OF SELF GENERATING GOOD WHICH DOES NOT EXISTS IN ANYONE THE ONLY REASON A PERSON WOULD SAY THEY BELIEVE OR CHOSE JESUS ON THE OWN WOULD TO SAY ONE THEIR IS GOOD IN THEM BUT IN FACT NO ONE WOULD WANTS TO HAVE A GOD BEFORE THEM THEY WANT TO BE AS GODS SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY WANT JESUS TO BE THEIR GOD & LORD AND SUBMIT TO HIM and make him their lord and savior something they would never do AND ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT THE ARE WICKED WITH NO GOOD WHICH THEIR PRIDE WILL NOT ALLOW THEY WILL ALWAYS CLAIM THEY HAVE GOOD IN THEM TO BOAST BEFORE GOD WHEN THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATS ALL GOOD THINGS COME FROM ABOVE AND THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT ONE THE LAW ONLY SHOWS WHO GOD IS AND WHO WE ARE NOT THIS TOTALLY ALIENS WITH PEOPLE THAT SAW MIRCALS AND BELIEVED AND PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THE CHOSE AND BELIEVE IN JESUS BUT JESUS SAYS I DO NOT NEED TESTIMONY OF MEN SAME THING AS GET AWAY FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL BORN OF THE FLESH VS EVEN THE DEMONDS AND ANGLES BELIEVE AND ARE CONDEMNED BELIEF ONE IS A SELF RIGHTEOUS ACT AND DOES NOT SAVE YOU.
BELIEF 2

Only God can cause people to repent and believe they would never do it on their own because they hate God and there is no good in them it's Purely by grace you are saved 1st he causes you to believe and causes you to admit you a sinner with a Godly repentance God saves you its only then by him that you know you're a sinner and you have His blood to pay for your sins and it drives out aLL fear and your confident and believe by faith with all insurance that your saved this faith and belief is generated by god otherwise your own heart would condemn and you would be in fear and would not belief god loves you because if look within you know you hated god and their is no good in you so it takeS an act of god to cause you to belief he loves you and his sons blood is for you only those WHO have been chosen in Chris Jesus SINCE THE FOUNDATIONS can feel the comfort you remember god is greater than our hearts this why the same word that saves some condemns others And this believe is different that your saved and he Loves you and knowing it was nothing you did on your own belief or faith no works of you at all THE FAITH IS FROM HIM For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:9

Conclusion
What still stands

* So yes it still stands people can't truly believe in Jesus on their own it's not up to them so we can stop telling people they have to believe because it's not a choice and its something they can't do or even if they chose on their own its STILL to no effect
* And yes it still stands those how call and believe in the name of Jesus are saved some don't understand why they believe they just do god is able to make them stand and their self righteous is covered by the blood of him if they are chosen in Him from the beginning in Christ Jesus Hebrews 6:6 thing, we don't know always who are His and who is not wheat and tears He says by their fruits will we recognize who is in the vine and who is not God prunes the true vines so they produce fruits and cuts of the dead leaves and corrects them, the truth in us is not self generated but the works of Him and evidence and a token of His working in us "author and finisher" but those who are not he cuts off and lets them continue in their sin and harden their hearts ’23 And then will I profess unto them, ‘I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.
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Paragraps and get rid of the capslock.

Its hurts the eyes.
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Well, the Christians have hijacked this thread, showing no respect, and are doing the typical preaching verse quoting ad nauseum.

I'm outta here,

OP, THANKS FOR THE THREAD, BUT IN USUAL FORM THE PREACHING BEGINS.. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TO LAST ME THREE LIFETIMES.

May GOD always be your beacon and truth your guidepost....loyalty to both is the equilibrium of the balance. Shalom!peace
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to all you soldiers in Christ Jesus

Hebrews 6:6 if you believed and fell away you can come back in the Hebrew its translated is says its in imposable for you to fall away because Chris blood pays for your sin past and and future his blood pays for it all come back it would to say that Christ blood was not good enough the 1st time you can come back he is able to graft you back in don't believe the demons


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If you don't believe in Jesus why you sweeten him why make thread jack ass

make a thread about something else your hoping some one that believes post stuff because you not sure
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Paragraps and get rid of the capslock.

Its hurts the eyes.
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Well, the Christians have hijacked this thread, showing no respect, and are doing the typical preaching verse quoting ad nauseum.

I'm outta here,

OP, THANKS FOR THE THREAD, BUT IN USUAL FORM THE PREACHING BEGINS.. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TO LAST ME THREE LIFETIMES.

May GOD always be your beacon and truth your guidepost....loyalty to both is the equilibrium of the balance. Shalom!peace

whats this ?????

you had no fromer life's dick weed what do you think you going to hide a part of your conciseness in a different part of time and space and avoid gods wrath LOl don't you know God controls all and will calapse time and space and hold you in hell no one escape God he created time space
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May GOD always be your beacon and truth your guidepost....loyalty to both is the equilibrium of the balance. Shalom!peace

whats this ? who in the hell is Shalom the peace symbol is an upside down christian on a cross you posted

I didn't come to bring piece but a Sword says the Lord
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OP, THANKS FOR THE THREAD, BUT IN USUAL FORM THE PREACHING BEGINS.. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TO LAST ME THREE LIFETIMES.

I cant believe you who posted this BS fantasy boy three life time ? LOL if was true and its not its been three times and you still don't get it

whats next for this thread cool lade and Pumas lol
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I am in my fifties now, female and a former Christian.

I stopped being a Christian and became a more spiritual person about 8 years ago. I had, what I believe, was a spiritual awakening. That is when I started learning more about aliens, The NWO, 911 etc etc..all the things that brought me to GLP in the first place. It was like I was guided to find more truths after my spiritual awakening.


I am not an atheist. I believe in a creator. But in no way am I a Christian. I don't believe in hell. I don't believe that a loving God would send me to hell for being human. I hate the blackmailing and threats from some Christians.

I would be interested to hear why some of you are no longer Christians and if one event led you to where you are today or if you just changed over time. Please share your experiences.
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so you don't believe in christianity yet you still believe in a creator? from another religion? if not... then.. why.. you make no sense

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OP, THANKS FOR THE THREAD, BUT IN USUAL FORM THE PREACHING BEGINS.. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TO LAST ME THREE LIFETIMES.

I cant believe you who posted this BS fantasy boy three life time ? LOL if was true and its not its been three times and you still don't get it

whats next for this thread cool lade and Pumas lol
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You must have stumbled upon this example of christian love and compassion.



Thread: TO ALL THOSE WHO MOCK CHRISTIANS AND MOCK GOD AND HELL!...LISTEN AND REPENT!
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No, you are wrong. The thread title is perfect. This thread isn't for you.
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You are blaming men for your hatred of God and Jesus Christ. Did God call on you and interact with you? Did the Christ interact with you and did he offend you? No and No, you hate God, you hate Jesus Christ, you hate all that love and express that love for them. But stop blaming God for your hatred that he did not cause. Grow up or down in your case.
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You are sincere, but you are sincerely wrong. Unless you consider yourself a former Christian, then this thread isn't for you. You should consider exiting stage left before you do even more harm to the reputation of the faith you claim to love.
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You never answered my question about interaction with God or Jesus Christ..... I can smell your fear.

You are killing something you never had. You were so far from it you never had it yet you claim people that do not agree with you are hurting Christianity? Really? You were never a Christian....you thought you were and you were bamboozled by other men to believe you were. With Christianity if you walk like a duck and talk like a duck you are either a duck or an imitation duck. You were imitation...why are you angry at the truth....you should be happy. You have a hatred for anything Christian and it shows.


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There are no former Christians. That is like saying water formerly made out of H2O. The 2 are not congruent.....
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Duhhhh!!!

a·pos·ta·sy = Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.
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Once born again, only God can retract it, only God could give it to begin with....it is a gift of Gods Holy Spirit. You are using a mankind word defined by mankind to suit him.


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You foolish hellbound woman. Why do you despise the Truth?
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Well, the Christians have hijacked this thread, showing no respect, and are doing the typical preaching verse quoting ad nauseum.

I'm outta here,

OP, THANKS FOR THE THREAD, BUT IN USUAL FORM THE PREACHING BEGINS.. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TO LAST ME THREE LIFETIMES.

May GOD always be your beacon and truth your guidepost....loyalty to both is the equilibrium of the balance. Shalom!peace
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[link to www.jewsforjesus.org]

Shalom! hf
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Looks like I hit a nerve. One star bandits out in force. lolsign
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Surely that doesn't surprise you, does it? chuckle
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No, not at all. I fully expected it. I knew I would get bashed, but I also knew I would find some support. hf
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One thing I've noticed is, the longer you have left the insanity, the more confident you become in having made the greatest decision of your life. The one thing that i will never, ever get used to from x-tians is when they condemn someone else to hell. Their very own bible tells them that our temple (body) is the home to our Creator. Each and every one of us is the manifestation of our Creator in the flesh. It is not something that was exclusive to the alleged JC. When they condemn another to hell, they are automatically condemning their own Creator to hell as well.

“Know ye not that ye (the body) are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you (the body)?” 1 Cor. 3:16
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Nonsense. God's holy spirit doesn't reside in his enemies, hellbound rebels like you. Your kind are only full of unclean spirits.
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The parable of the seed relates to you Godless lot.

18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
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Ever wonder why people have a hard time beleiving in God?

Its because all you hear about Him is threats of hell and torutre from churches and most christians..

Thats why christians love DOOM so much..and throw massive doomgasms and start screaming about raptures while everyone else burns while they head off to heaven rejoicing over the toasting and roasting of billions...with every report of doom that comes along.

Pure evil...ever wondered why they are like this??

Because THIS is what they actually belive.

Thread: But..GOD PLANNED hell..HE WANTS to torture most of your forever.

But..

Thread: Is it LOVE???...or DARK SINISTER HATE?????????

And going by the God of death they worsip..

Thread: What is it with CHRISTIANS and their worship of HELL??

Its not surpeising that this is what comes out of their mouths..

Thread: Christian LOVE at its finets..brought to you by the HELL screamers.

Because they totally ignore what the bible says about love and mercy and salvation.

Thread: If christians love the BIBLE so uch why do they ignore most of it to fit an agenday?

Because they are following their dark masters agenda..

Thread: If I was satan and wanted to make people HATE God this would be the VERY FIRST THING on my agenda..

They think you choose to to to a hell that they made up..

Thread: "FREE will" is a MYTH and always has been. But it sells books. Hell is big business.

Its a good thing they are dead wrong.

SO...

Ignore them dear athiests and "Sinners" for THIS is the real good news.

YOU ARE LOVED.

Read this thread.

Thread: Why didnt Jesus condemn or doom the sinners and spell casters of his day but instead went after the pharisees religious ones??

And see this link..and be FREE.

[link to www.tentmaker.org]

YOU ARE SO VERY VERY LOVED!

IGNORE THE HELL SCREAMERS!

THEY HATE YOU..as is obvious with every thread they write about athists and evolutionists.

Good thing they dont represent the REAL God...or we would all have no hope.

If heaven was ever to be for those types it would BE hell.

Good thing there is no hell as they describe it.

Its not in the bible anywhere.

Its a fake teaching designed for fear and control and money.
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Keep telling yourself that you hellbound viper. Do you think you can fool God with your lies? He knows your wicked heart and will not fall for yours or anyone elses excuses. You will have no excuse on your judgement day.
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Once born again, only God can retract it, only God could give it to begin with....it is a gift of Gods Holy Spirit. You are using a mankind word defined by mankind to suit him.


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Once you become circumcised you can not become uncircumcised.....can understand that?
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What a fuckin moron!! Circumcision is physical. Changing your mind about a faith, dogma, religion, belief, etc., is a mental act. Who teaches you this crap?
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Actually, you are wrong again. So who is the real moron?



“Circumcise yourselves to the Lord; remove the foreskin of your hearts, O men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem; lest my wrath go forth like fire” (v. 4).
- Jeremiah 4:1–4
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Once born again, only God can retract it, only God could give it to begin with....it is a gift of Gods Holy Spirit. You are using a mankind word defined by mankind to suit him.


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whatevers226iamwith another dopick
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Once you become circumcised you can not become uncircumcised.....can understand that?
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I suppose you're talking about the mutilation of a little boy's or girl's body, right? If so, goes to show just how attentive you are of your own scriptures. Everything is symbolic and allegorical. Pay attention!!

- But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:29
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And a false teacher to boot. You have no understanding of the word/will of God so stop acting like you do rebel.
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Once born again, only God can retract it, only God could give it to begin with....it is a gift of Gods Holy Spirit. You are using a mankind word defined by mankind to suit him.


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whatevers226iamwith another dopick
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Once you become circumcised you can not become uncircumcised.....can understand that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41716918


I suppose you're talking about the mutilation of a little boy's or girl's body, right? If so, goes to show just how attentive you are of your own scriptures. Everything is symbolic and allegorical. Pay attention!!

- But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:29
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You just contradicted your earlier post. Fail.
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Hey OP.

Being a former hell screamer you can attest to the truth of the following.

Christians twist scripture or ignore them to create the eternal torture theme...as that is the AGENDA...to further a LIE!

Like this..

What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of a small fraction of the nations; and some of the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.


And What the word actually SAYS

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall about 10% of mankind be made alive.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of just a few men, and only of those that believe.

And What the word actually SAYS

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And what they actually TEACH..

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away...except in hell where screaming and pain and tears and death will continue quite happily for eternity.

And What the word actually SAYS

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And what they actually TEACH..

Isaiah 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. (8) He will swallow up 10% of death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off about 10% of faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off a bit of the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

And What the word actually SAYS

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw about 10% of men unto me.

And What the word actually SAYS

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And what they actually TEACH..

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and for our's only, but not for the sins of the whole world.


And What the word actually SAYS


John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

And what they actually TEACH..

John 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of part of the world.
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Took a fair bit of twisting of scripture to make them say the OPPOSITE of whats there...but most christians should not have a problem with it because its what they EXACTLY teach..
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Fail. Woe to these rebels of God who teach lies. They will soon suffer the plagues.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelation 14:9-11

Matthew 25:41


Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


The word/Word of God rebuke you liars.
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Re: A thread for former Christians.
This is a very sad statement indeed .verysad
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Indeed.

David could say with confidence in Psalm 23 that he would dwell in the house of the Lord forever. There is no such thing as an "ex-Christian" that is, one who is born again. Either you knew the King of kings personally or you didn't.

If you did and turned your back on Him you were not a born-again Christian and must stand before God on Judgment Day. If you didn't know Him you also were not a born-again Christian. You were either a liar or was deluded, but you were not a born-again Christian.

I want to plead with those who claim to have been born again to Google the Good Person test. It only takes five minutes.

Praying for you.
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''I believe in a loving creator, not a cruel one. I don't need a bible or church to believe in a creator. I believe Jesus was a man, an exceptional, awakened man.''


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This thread is for former Christians to give their stories. Would you Christians PLEASE pay some respect? We're all quite familiar with your bible quotes and widely varying beliefs and opinions (from the mundane to the right out bizarre). Please show some respect. (I have never even opened the thread here on GP for Christian Brainstorming out of respect...can't you at least do the same?)
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Would you please go to all the Christian threads and tell the anti-Christians to PLEASE pay some respect?

(I wouldn't have posted in this thread if it hadn't been for your comment, and I won't post again, because I'm not a troll like most anti-Christians. But fair is fair; if we must stay out of your threads, then you must stay out of ours, and you all have a LOT of catching up to do in that regard.)
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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OP, one of the things I was taught was the there was no such thing as an ex Christian. That if someone really had a relationship with Jesus that they would NEVER leave the faith.

The scripture always quoted was...."they went out from among us because they were not really a part of us, if they were really part of us they would have stayed, but their going out proves they were never part of us"

So, that's why Chrisitans have this as a default answer.

But it simply isn't true. There are THOUSANDS of people from every walk of life, including evangelists and preachers, who have left Christianity. People like me and you.

It wasn't that I never really had a relationship with Jesus...it's that Christianity doesn't represent the true GOD. NO organized system of faith does. It's like they all have a little piece of the truth, but leave out important parts...and focus too much on a book of some sort...be it the bible, Koran or zend Avesta. They all try to put GOD in a box as outlined by their particular faith. But it doesn't work.

GOD is gloriously removed from all human religions and systems...yet tolerates each and every one because they can become a tool HE uses to guide a soul to truth.
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Exactly.

Time to leave the "Cradle"

Those who awake to the truth leave the creche.

Thread: If I was satan and wanted to make people HATE God this would be the VERY FIRST THING on my agenda..
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So you admit you hate God, glad you cleared that up.





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