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Let us look at a likely chain of events. It likely begins with a sovereign default, or the disclosure that a mega-bank such as J.P. Morgan or Deutsche Bank is over-exposed and is being “downgraded”. The details of the igniting event are unimportant, believe it or not, once the ball starts rolling.

Now, the excessive inter-dependence of all the principal financial entities takes over, as each is thrown off balance while attempting to “manage” its exposure to the failing entities securities. Bump, bump, bump – like a wave, the risk is distributed through the complex financial fabric, finding every weakness, every error, ever undisclosed liability. The exponential leverage of risk upon risk suddenly becomes visible to everyone, and causes fears of a full-on default. Once this fear hits the news, the institutional investors (401.k, IRA, and pension funds) will try to get out of their risk positions immediately, even at a major loss.

Prices of the tainted assets will plummet. The natural drag down effect of the market will hurt even healthy entities in the same markets, as banks and fund managers sell and shuffle to cover. Now, real failures are made, as the market takes a dive and margins are called in a cascade of risk-management triggers which have been haphazardly built-in over the years. This is the Iceburg. Not only can such a thing sink a Titanic, it can cause a tsunami.

An iceburg melts from the bottom up, because water conducts heat much better than air. At some point in time, the “tip of the iceburg” becomes too heavy, and it shifts suddenly and violently to a new position in the water. Markets are the same – a lot of money can be lost “below the water line” before the iceberg flips, but when it does it will disrupt and destroy anything in its vicinity, and ultimately will sit lower in the water after such an event. The tsunami is catastrophic inflation, and the ultimate disposition, the iceberg sitting lower in the water, is the final deflationary stabilization at corrected market values.

When this happens, expect the following to occur, and swiftly -

1. The use of money, as we know it today, will be suspended at a minimum, but more likely, our familiar currencies will cease to represent any real buying power. The first phases of this have, in fact, been happening for decades. It began with the mass flight of nations from the Gold Standard which was all but complete in the 1970s. It will culminate with a great and sudden flipping of the iceburg as the various unstable systems of promissory notes and debt-based economies implode in short order. Your bank account will be void overnight, and debit and credit cards will cease to work. The actual paper currency you hold will also lose most of its value as the demand for real goods explodes. Fear will blossom into panic, and everything will be bought up while cash still has some value.

2. A paycheck is worthless if it cannot be cashed, and most people do not have the trust and resolve to ‘work for nothing’, so many services we rely on will go dark over a period of a week or less: Grocery store shelves will empty and not be replenished; gasoline and other petroleum products will cease to flow, and even basic utilities such as electricity, water, and sewer may become intermittent, and/or fail all together. Police, Fire, and EMS services will be drawn back to the most meager levels, and will likely not be available at all in many areas for a period of time.

3. Because of #1 and 2, above, riots will explode, starting in the urban core, and spreading outward into suburbia. Do not imagine that civility will win the day – rather, it will be among the first casualties. Likely even the quietest and most politically correct will shed their social skins and revert to savagery when they perceive that they and their children may starve; when they realize that every single one of their expectations for tomorrow have evaporated over night, never to be seen again. Satisfaction of immediate needs will be the only law, and violence the final authority in most populous places. As a response, martial Law will be imposed in the cities and larger suburban areas, extending as far out as there is functioning government to enforce it.

4. With profound privation and exploding violence will come a great diaspora from the cities. The absence of food, comfort, and safety will drive people from urban centers like a bomb blast, commencing as little as 24 hours after the iceberg flips; and certainly, within a week, the living population of nearly every urban center will have decreased by ~75%. Some urbanites will die where they lived, but sadly, far more will die along the routes of our freeways and interstate highways. Their lives will run out along with their gas tanks and meager trunk-loads of food, water, and other supplies. The force of this human blast will extend deeply into heavily developed suburban communities, thus forcing a second wave of flight, as suburbia is overrun with desperate urbanites searching for a safe haven which no one has prepared for them. With the loss of financial backing and essential infrastructure, nearly all personal communications mediums will cease to function. Most broadcast radio and television stations will also fall silent.

5. After two to four weeks, the dust will begin to settle, and those still alive will begin to clean up their neighborhoods, and to establish provisional security agreements in the hopes of securing their communities, and beginning to rebuild. At this point, some 25 to 50 million Americans will have passed into eternity. Less than 5% will have ben given a proper interment, and disease will be the next horror to face.

6. After 3-4 weeks, the military and NGO relief workers, fanning out from the urban centers, will begin trying to clean up and to reinstate order, using a carrot and stick method. They will try to move the population into centralized “shelters” where it will be easier to feed the multitude and provide other services. All that you will have to do is surrender your personal supplies of food, water, and medicine to gain entry. Firearms will all be confiscated “for everyone’s safety”. If you refuse their offered shelter and food, they will still insist on confiscation of your guns and other choice bits of your property. They always do; Hurricane Katrina gives a clear and present example.

7. Another 50-100 million people will die between weeks 4 and 40, due to malnutrition, disease, exposure, and continued violence. In the more rural areas, barter and community markets will begin to fulfill at least some of people’s daily needs. Martial Law will become so well instated that those in power will become reluctant to even attempt the restoration of civil society, [as if they would let such a grand emergency go to waste] and a resistance movement will become evident.


Read the whole thing - [link to ncrenegade.com]

An alternate trigger with narly the same outcome is "The Scenario", A.K.A. a covert seizure of depositor assets from banks - Thread: A Scenario (Financial False Flag)
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For how long have we been hearing this? And it never happens... But I seriously think it is right around the corner.
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Written November 23, 2011
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The Next Shemitah is Sept 13, 2015.
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Written November 23, 2011
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Correct, I penned this about 2 years ago. Had already been convinced that it was coming for at least 4 years before that, but was still putting the pieces together...

As far as I can tell... TIME IS UP, this thing is upon us.
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Let us look at a likely chain of events. It likely begins with a sovereign default, or the disclosure that a mega-bank such as J.P. Morgan or Deutsche Bank is over-exposed and is being “downgraded”. The details of the igniting event are unimportant, believe it or not, once the ball starts rolling.

Now, the excessive inter-dependence of all the principal financial entities takes over, as each is thrown off balance while attempting to “manage” its exposure to the failing entities securities. Bump, bump, bump – like a wave, the risk is distributed through the complex financial fabric, finding every weakness, every error, ever undisclosed liability. The exponential leverage of risk upon risk suddenly becomes visible to everyone, and causes fears of a full-on default. Once this fear hits the news, the institutional investors (401.k, IRA, and pension funds) will try to get out of their risk positions immediately, even at a major loss.

Prices of the tainted assets will plummet. The natural drag down effect of the market will hurt even healthy entities in the same markets, as banks and fund managers sell and shuffle to cover. Now, real failures are made, as the market takes a dive and margins are called in a cascade of risk-management triggers which have been haphazardly built-in over the years. This is the Iceburg. Not only can such a thing sink a Titanic, it can cause a tsunami.

An iceburg melts from the bottom up, because water conducts heat much better than air. At some point in time, the “tip of the iceburg” becomes too heavy, and it shifts suddenly and violently to a new position in the water. Markets are the same – a lot of money can be lost “below the water line” before the iceberg flips, but when it does it will disrupt and destroy anything in its vicinity, and ultimately will sit lower in the water after such an event. The tsunami is catastrophic inflation, and the ultimate disposition, the iceberg sitting lower in the water, is the final deflationary stabilization at corrected market values.

When this happens, expect the following to occur, and swiftly -

1. The use of money, as we know it today, will be suspended at a minimum, but more likely, our familiar currencies will cease to represent any real buying power. The first phases of this have, in fact, been happening for decades. It began with the mass flight of nations from the Gold Standard which was all but complete in the 1970s. It will culminate with a great and sudden flipping of the iceburg as the various unstable systems of promissory notes and debt-based economies implode in short order. Your bank account will be void overnight, and debit and credit cards will cease to work. The actual paper currency you hold will also lose most of its value as the demand for real goods explodes. Fear will blossom into panic, and everything will be bought up while cash still has some value.

2. A paycheck is worthless if it cannot be cashed, and most people do not have the trust and resolve to ‘work for nothing’, so many services we rely on will go dark over a period of a week or less: Grocery store shelves will empty and not be replenished; gasoline and other petroleum products will cease to flow, and even basic utilities such as electricity, water, and sewer may become intermittent, and/or fail all together. Police, Fire, and EMS services will be drawn back to the most meager levels, and will likely not be available at all in many areas for a period of time.

3. Because of #1 and 2, above, riots will explode, starting in the urban core, and spreading outward into suburbia. Do not imagine that civility will win the day – rather, it will be among the first casualties. Likely even the quietest and most politically correct will shed their social skins and revert to savagery when they perceive that they and their children may starve; when they realize that every single one of their expectations for tomorrow have evaporated over night, never to be seen again. Satisfaction of immediate needs will be the only law, and violence the final authority in most populous places. As a response, martial Law will be imposed in the cities and larger suburban areas, extending as far out as there is functioning government to enforce it.

4. With profound privation and exploding violence will come a great diaspora from the cities. The absence of food, comfort, and safety will drive people from urban centers like a bomb blast, commencing as little as 24 hours after the iceberg flips; and certainly, within a week, the living population of nearly every urban center will have decreased by ~75%. Some urbanites will die where they lived, but sadly, far more will die along the routes of our freeways and interstate highways. Their lives will run out along with their gas tanks and meager trunk-loads of food, water, and other supplies. The force of this human blast will extend deeply into heavily developed suburban communities, thus forcing a second wave of flight, as suburbia is overrun with desperate urbanites searching for a safe haven which no one has prepared for them. With the loss of financial backing and essential infrastructure, nearly all personal communications mediums will cease to function. Most broadcast radio and television stations will also fall silent.

5. After two to four weeks, the dust will begin to settle, and those still alive will begin to clean up their neighborhoods, and to establish provisional security agreements in the hopes of securing their communities, and beginning to rebuild. At this point, some 25 to 50 million Americans will have passed into eternity. Less than 5% will have ben given a proper interment, and disease will be the next horror to face.

6. After 3-4 weeks, the military and NGO relief workers, fanning out from the urban centers, will begin trying to clean up and to reinstate order, using a carrot and stick method. They will try to move the population into centralized “shelters” where it will be easier to feed the multitude and provide other services. All that you will have to do is surrender your personal supplies of food, water, and medicine to gain entry. Firearms will all be confiscated “for everyone’s safety”. If you refuse their offered shelter and food, they will still insist on confiscation of your guns and other choice bits of your property. They always do; Hurricane Katrina gives a clear and present example.

7. Another 50-100 million people will die between weeks 4 and 40, due to malnutrition, disease, exposure, and continued violence. In the more rural areas, barter and community markets will begin to fulfill at least some of people’s daily needs. Martial Law will become so well instated that those in power will become reluctant to even attempt the restoration of civil society, [as if they would let such a grand emergency go to waste] and a resistance movement will become evident.


Read the whole thing - [link to ncrenegade.com]

An alternate trigger with narly the same outcome is "The Scenario", A.K.A. a covert seizure of depositor assets from banks - Thread: A Scenario (Financial False Flag)
 Quoting: LT Prepper


Great free book here prepper....especially like the timeline given by the author (similar to yours, but detailed) on how long it will take for those in cities to move out, and when to expect them depending on your location...442 pages of free book.

[link to survivalcivilization.com]
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5 and a pin.
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THANKS!
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amazing quality thank you for sharing this
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The chaos prior to satans arrival will certainly have the world crying peace peace.

But Gods intent is that the world be tried by the antichrist who will come in prosperously and peacefully. Christ shortened the days of satans hour of temptation, but the chaos before most likely wont be an extended event either to the point where millions upon millions die.

God wants the souls of these final generations tried by satan. That is what He has had written and that can not happen if they are all returned to their spiritual form.

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bump and thanks for sharing!
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What is coming is so frightening, OP.. Men's hearts will fail in fear...

No one is, or can be, prepared for what is coming...

It is indignation. And it will rise up once. And never again.

May you be found in the grace of The Almighty in that day.
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As scary as it sounds, the ruling elites won't let this happen.

This kind of collapse means their comfortable luxurious lifestyle will come to a screeching halt, their properties, vineyards, anything they can't quickly transport will be looted and damaged by desperate people.

Military workers won't be there to serve them as they have their own families to take care of. People won't get in line to surrender their guns, they will simply shoot to kill to get food. It will be a real mess and impossible to restore in mere months. TPTB will do anything to maintain the 'normal order' because once it's gone, their power is gone with it.
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let me be the first to issue a.....

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I believe the OPs senerio could very well happen, but as pointed out, they don't want economic doom to happen.

A more likely event will be stagflation. In fact, we've been in a stagflation state since 2008.

With stagflation, you get the sheeple dependent on the government, and they remain poor. The government is weak also, but functioning enough to dole out welfare & obamaphones to the masses to keep them from rioting.

While the powers that be remain super-rich and powerful, and get to rule.
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Let us look at a likely chain of events. It likely begins with a sovereign default, or the disclosure that a mega-bank such as J.P. Morgan or Deutsche Bank is over-exposed and is being “downgraded”. The details of the igniting event are unimportant, believe it or not, once the ball starts rolling.

Now, the excessive inter-dependence of all the principal financial entities takes over, as each is thrown off balance while attempting to “manage” its exposure to the failing entities securities. Bump, bump, bump – like a wave, the risk is distributed through the complex financial fabric, finding every weakness, every error, ever undisclosed liability. The exponential leverage of risk upon risk suddenly becomes visible to everyone, and causes fears of a full-on default. Once this fear hits the news, the institutional investors (401.k, IRA, and pension funds) will try to get out of their risk positions immediately, even at a major loss.

Prices of the tainted assets will plummet. The natural drag down effect of the market will hurt even healthy entities in the same markets, as banks and fund managers sell and shuffle to cover. Now, real failures are made, as the market takes a dive and margins are called in a cascade of risk-management triggers which have been haphazardly built-in over the years. This is the Iceburg. Not only can such a thing sink a Titanic, it can cause a tsunami.

An iceburg melts from the bottom up, because water conducts heat much better than air. At some point in time, the “tip of the iceburg” becomes too heavy, and it shifts suddenly and violently to a new position in the water. Markets are the same – a lot of money can be lost “below the water line” before the iceberg flips, but when it does it will disrupt and destroy anything in its vicinity, and ultimately will sit lower in the water after such an event. The tsunami is catastrophic inflation, and the ultimate disposition, the iceberg sitting lower in the water, is the final deflationary stabilization at corrected market values.

When this happens, expect the following to occur, and swiftly -

1. The use of money, as we know it today, will be suspended at a minimum, but more likely, our familiar currencies will cease to represent any real buying power. The first phases of this have, in fact, been happening for decades. It began with the mass flight of nations from the Gold Standard which was all but complete in the 1970s. It will culminate with a great and sudden flipping of the iceburg as the various unstable systems of promissory notes and debt-based economies implode in short order. Your bank account will be void overnight, and debit and credit cards will cease to work. The actual paper currency you hold will also lose most of its value as the demand for real goods explodes. Fear will blossom into panic, and everything will be bought up while cash still has some value.

2. A paycheck is worthless if it cannot be cashed, and most people do not have the trust and resolve to ‘work for nothing’, so many services we rely on will go dark over a period of a week or less: Grocery store shelves will empty and not be replenished; gasoline and other petroleum products will cease to flow, and even basic utilities such as electricity, water, and sewer may become intermittent, and/or fail all together. Police, Fire, and EMS services will be drawn back to the most meager levels, and will likely not be available at all in many areas for a period of time.

3. Because of #1 and 2, above, riots will explode, starting in the urban core, and spreading outward into suburbia. Do not imagine that civility will win the day – rather, it will be among the first casualties. Likely even the quietest and most politically correct will shed their social skins and revert to savagery when they perceive that they and their children may starve; when they realize that every single one of their expectations for tomorrow have evaporated over night, never to be seen again. Satisfaction of immediate needs will be the only law, and violence the final authority in most populous places. As a response, martial Law will be imposed in the cities and larger suburban areas, extending as far out as there is functioning government to enforce it.

4. With profound privation and exploding violence will come a great diaspora from the cities. The absence of food, comfort, and safety will drive people from urban centers like a bomb blast, commencing as little as 24 hours after the iceberg flips; and certainly, within a week, the living population of nearly every urban center will have decreased by ~75%. Some urbanites will die where they lived, but sadly, far more will die along the routes of our freeways and interstate highways. Their lives will run out along with their gas tanks and meager trunk-loads of food, water, and other supplies. The force of this human blast will extend deeply into heavily developed suburban communities, thus forcing a second wave of flight, as suburbia is overrun with desperate urbanites searching for a safe haven which no one has prepared for them. With the loss of financial backing and essential infrastructure, nearly all personal communications mediums will cease to function. Most broadcast radio and television stations will also fall silent.

5. After two to four weeks, the dust will begin to settle, and those still alive will begin to clean up their neighborhoods, and to establish provisional security agreements in the hopes of securing their communities, and beginning to rebuild. At this point, some 25 to 50 million Americans will have passed into eternity. Less than 5% will have ben given a proper interment, and disease will be the next horror to face.

6. After 3-4 weeks, the military and NGO relief workers, fanning out from the urban centers, will begin trying to clean up and to reinstate order, using a carrot and stick method. They will try to move the population into centralized “shelters” where it will be easier to feed the multitude and provide other services. All that you will have to do is surrender your personal supplies of food, water, and medicine to gain entry. Firearms will all be confiscated “for everyone’s safety”. If you refuse their offered shelter and food, they will still insist on confiscation of your guns and other choice bits of your property. They always do; Hurricane Katrina gives a clear and present example.

7. Another 50-100 million people will die between weeks 4 and 40, due to malnutrition, disease, exposure, and continued violence. In the more rural areas, barter and community markets will begin to fulfill at least some of people’s daily needs. Martial Law will become so well instated that those in power will become reluctant to even attempt the restoration of civil society, [as if they would let such a grand emergency go to waste] and a resistance movement will become evident.


Read the whole thing - [link to ncrenegade.com]

An alternate trigger with narly the same outcome is "The Scenario", A.K.A. a covert seizure of depositor assets from banks - Thread: A Scenario (Financial False Flag)
 Quoting: LT Prepper


at least you arent trying to sell this as prophecy.

this is just mind rape, not esoteric mind rape.

bsflag
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B.S. or not, its a great story...

I'm just quivering with anticipatory DOOM!
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Everyone seems to anticipate a "Smash your Face" kind of Collapse?

Sort of like the World Trade Centers or something.

This, is NOT how a collapse will occur. Collapse is going to be a long slow grinding spiral into DOOM.

Sure, there will be a few BIG events along the way, but for most of us it will be a spiraling decline in standards of living.

Try reading this BLOG of a man who examined COLLAPSE and made some observations from the Roman Empire and several other examples.

The Collapse has Already Happened...

[link to hipcrime.blogspot.co.uk]

FURTHER....
Rome did not have the benefits of a fiat currency as it is under a bi-metallic standard which limits the amount of money that can be minted.

Nero tampered with the coinage by decreasing the silver and gold content of its coins. Reducing the content to as much as 85% increased the monetary base as it allowed more extra coins to be minted as a result of this reduction. A pound of silver that produced 84 Denarii can now be stretched up to 96 pieces of Denarii.

Later emperors followed this public deception that allowed them to increase the number of coins to pay for their ballooning government spending. The silver and metallic content reached below 50% during the reign of Lucius Severus as he increased the pay of the Empire’s soldiers hoping to maintain their loyalty.

Over a span of 200 years, the silver content on coins went from pure to virtually 1% or even nothing. This resulted over the years, an increase in prices of goods. Wheat that once sold for 1 Denarius now sold for over 200 Denarii.

Inflation in numbersThe silver content in the denarius fell over the ages:

Emperor.................... Purity
Augustus (27 BC - 14 AD)... about 97%
Nero (54 - 68)............... 90%
Trajan (98 - 117)........... .85%
Marcus Aurelius (161 - 180)...75%
Septimus Severus (193 - 211)..50%
and Caracalla (198 - 217).....50%
Traianus Decius (249 - 251)...40%
Gallienus (253 - 268)......,,,20-25%
Aurelian (270 - 275)..........2%

The inflation is hard to document, but one good indicator are the payments a Roman legionary would receive:

Emperor ...............yearly pay in Denarii
Augustus (27 BC - 14 AD).......225
Domitian (81 - 96).............300
Commodus (176 - 192)...........375
Septimus Severus (193 - 211)...500
Caracalla (198 - 217)..........750

The devaluation of silver money to a half has led to a similar increase in their wages. This doubling of prices over the course of a century is also documented for bread.

In Diocletian's time, in the year 301, he fixed the price at 50,000 denarii for one pound of gold.

Ten years later it had risen to 120,000.

In 324, 23 years after it was 50,000,

In 337 it was 300,000.

The year of Constantine's death, a pound of gold brought 20,000,000 denarii.

[link to wiki.mises.org]
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the howl of the soul hungry is loud tonight.

i hate it when people grind their teeth.

*plugs ears
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
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As scary as it sounds, the ruling elites won't let this happen.

This kind of collapse means their comfortable luxurious lifestyle will come to a screeching halt, their properties, vineyards, anything they can't quickly transport will be looted and damaged by desperate people.

Military workers won't be there to serve them as they have their own families to take care of. People won't get in line to surrender their guns, they will simply shoot to kill to get food. It will be a real mess and impossible to restore in mere months. TPTB will do anything to maintain the 'normal order' because once it's gone, their power is gone with it.
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I think you make a good point. If the whole earth is a radioactive wasteland, the elites wont be able to spend their fortunes and life would suck for them too, if they're still alive. Maybe Obama has a good plan afterall.
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
 Quoting: Revo/elation


For some this is simple truth. For others... Not.

May we rest in hope and patience together.

Peace,
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
 Quoting: Revo/elation


For some this is simple truth. For others... Not.

May we rest in hope and patience together.

Peace,
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^this
only the song of silence soothes every soul.
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09/08/2013 12:24 AM
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Re: What is Coming, and What we Must Do
Since the World has abandoned Gold and Silver as money, and for most, have substituted the "Petro-Dollar"

Here is some Petro-Dollar Doom...
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Is GLP ahead of the Curve?

Here is the Graph...
Proposed in the mid 1950's and this version published in the 1970's.

At about the "World Trade Center" section of the graph, Saudi Arabia is noted?

All of the 9-11 hijackers were allegedly Saudi Arabians?

Look where we are now on this curve.

I would say that give, or take a little, we are solidly on track.

I don't believe there is any way around this, lots of people are going to die?
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"an average excess death rate of 100 million per year every year for the next 75 years...

To put this in perspective, WWII caused an excess death rate of only 10 million per year for only six years...."
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Hubert Curve

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I am personally quite attached to the world I've grown up in and the people that inhabit it, as is every other population commentator I am familiar with.

However, in my ecological and Peak Oil research over the last several years I have begun to see the shape of a looming catastrophe that has absolutely nothing to do with human intentions, good or ill.

It is the simple product of our species' continuing growth in both numbers and ability, an exponential growth that is taking place within the finite ecological niche of the entire world.

Our recent effusive growth has been fueled by the draw-down of primordial stocks of petroleum which are about to deplete while our numbers and activities continue to grow. This is a simple, obvious recipe for disaster.
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Based on this model we would experience an average excess death rate of 100 million per year every year for the next 75 years to achieve our target population of one billion by 2082. The peak excess death rate would happen in about 20 years, and would be about 200 million that year. To put this in perspective, WWII caused an excess death rate of only 10 million per year for only six years.
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LT Prepper  (OP)

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09/08/2013 12:33 AM
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
 Quoting: Revo/elation


For some this is simple truth. For others... Not.

May we rest in hope and patience together.

Peace,
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As I have stated;

Peace and blessings to you, and to your families. May you be fortified well against the days to come. What we have witnessed in recent days is bewildering to many, and rightly so; for the very fabric of our society, which for several decades has been drawn and stressed by so many factors, has begun to rent visibly since the new year. We have witnessed terror, violent unrest, and the fall of so many governments that it is difficult for one to keep apace of the turbulence in which the world seems, inexorably, to be sinking.

Every day we are awash in fresh news of controversy, unrest, scandal, and outright war, such that our instincts are to turn away, and to deny the rising tide all around us, in the hopes of keeping our own small world dry and safe from the mounting torrent of the angry world outside.

Increasingly, our thoughts are in turmoil, our souls prey to anxiety about what tomorrow holds for ourselves and our loved ones. We are stunned with trepidation at the prospects of such profound change as our situation seems to demand, and yet we know that to do nothing is to succumb to forces which pay us no regard; and which, if left unchecked, will consume our liberty, our dignity, and perhaps even our very sustenance.

Speculation is rampant, and yet each day it is fueled anew; grows greater in force; and darker in tone. A spirit of dark carnival has entered our streets here in America, and while fear, frustration, anger, and the urge to bring change resonates in many of us; yet we cannot, and do not consent to the fashion by which these emotions are being released in our public venues, for what we see is repugnant; it is not, at its heart, a movement composed of hope, goodness, and light, but a movement of despair, rage, and aggression; its leading must, inevitably, be downward, into violence and despotism, if it goes anywhere at all.
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We must prepare ourselves and as many of our community as shall listen; through education, analysis, planning, and outspoken promotion of our beliefs and methods, such that when the opportunity arises to re-establish Constitutional government in our communities, states, and the nation as a whole, we will be prepared to implement that model honestly and effectively, in a timely manner, and in the context of the world in which we find ourselves…

It is not enough to know the words of the Declaration and Constitution – we must study these in the context in which they were authored, and must also examine the lives of the men who wrote them. We must so educate ourselves that we see past the words, viewing rather the hopes and concerns which they intended to address, and thereby adopt the *spirit* of liberty in our own lives – for the spirit of liberty is the life of the nation, whereas the law is it’s death…
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09/08/2013 12:36 AM
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I like your projection.

But i think nature will have a part to play before we even get to this point.

Meaning, before you even get to #1 there will be a significant reduction in population.
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09/08/2013 12:39 AM
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I'll go along with that. Well written. Cheers.

Though I don't live in America we shall be dealing with the same here I do believe. It will filter down as the currencys crash.

Trade will halt at the border. Lots of stuff we eat here comes from California. The trains and Trucks will stop coming from the West Coast in Vancouver. The Mountain Passes will close. Lots of community's will be cut off in Winter.

I hope this happens in Winter or late fall like this as it will curtail peoples activites especially those needing to move because they didn't plan for anything.

Nobody around here is doing anything. They have no idea whats coming their way.
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09/08/2013 12:46 AM
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What is coming is so frightening, OP.. Men's hearts will fail in fear...

No one is, or can be, prepared for what is coming...

It is indignation. And it will rise up once. And never again.

May you be found in the grace of The Almighty in that day.
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The meek shall be risen up during those days, while the dark ones face the results of their dark days here on Earth.
LT Prepper  (OP)

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09/08/2013 01:20 AM
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What is coming is so frightening, OP.. Men's hearts will fail in fear...

No one is, or can be, prepared for what is coming...

It is indignation. And it will rise up once. And never again.

May you be found in the grace of The Almighty in that day.
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The meek shall be risen up during those days, while the dark ones face the results of their dark days here on Earth.
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Mindset is a subset of FAITH. Most Americans are sorely lacking in a functional *practice* of faith, and this is the defining element of our weakness.
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LT Prepper  (OP)

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09/09/2013 09:55 AM
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The chaos prior to satans arrival will certainly have the world crying peace peace.

But Gods intent is that the world be tried by the antichrist who will come in prosperously and peacefully. Christ shortened the days of satans hour of temptation, but the chaos before most likely wont be an extended event either to the point where millions upon millions die.

God wants the souls of these final generations tried by satan. That is what He has had written and that can not happen if they are all returned to their spiritual form.
 Quoting: Brogan


All of God's tests are spiritual. He tests us, both with adversity and with prosperity in the material realm - "He uses fire to test the gold (treasure), and gold to test His servants" as the saying goes...

But you must remember that you are, ultimately, both His treasure and His servant - thus you get tested with *both*.





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