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What is Coming, and What we Must Do

 
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
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That's a downright knock-you-on-your-ass good point.

*whew*
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Respectfully friends...both (OT and NT) are filled with admonitions for (true believers in the Prince of the Kings of the Earth: those of the saints of the Most High - those spiritually reborn, specifically, His Church)...to "make preparation" as you put it, and to do so (specifically within the context of the "end of the age" and the nearing (of the appearing) of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.)

Because it's late tonight, I'm not going to reiterate (some long list of verses on this subject)...but again, they are there; and it's deep.

They just may not be in the (exact way that, perhaps one's mind is "expecting them"), when one thinks of "prepping".

Most importantly, I can tell you categorically - the heart of the "prepping" (again for the believer) - is in the "internal" prepping; ie "sanctification".

I've done a large amount of research on this specific subject (of this specific subject matter of this above post: namely, verses with "action words" for the church, as the second coming nears), and can tell you that (THERE ARE BETWEEN 78 AND 82 VERSES IN THE NT THAT SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF TWO THINGS: 1. GOD'S DESIRE FOR THE CHRISTIAN'S "ACTIONS" (VERB USED IN SCRIPTURE) 2. THIS "VERB" (EITHER AN ADMONITION OR COMMAND) FROM "1" AND...DONE WITHIN THE SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF THE NEARING/APPROACHING SECOND COMING OF CHRIST...IN OTHER WORDS TO "DO" DURING THE END DAYS.) It's between these two numbers because it depends on how you count the verses (and using "bible software" won't get this for you due to "subject matter" within word/sentence context...you must read the entire Word of God, specifically counting/looking for this as you read (which I've personally done with the NT, but not completed the OT yet on this project).

As I said earlier, these verses are desires God has for His believers (to do, act upon, become, etc.) within the context of the end of the age...and they mostly deal with "INTERNAL" PREPPING "AS THAT DAY APPROACHES"...HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO A SBUSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM - THAT ALSO INCLUDE "PHYSICAL" PREPPEING. (AGAIN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE.)

FOR NOW, LET ME LEAVE JUST ONE BIG ONE (ON THE "PHYSICAL" SIDE OF THE PREPPING DESIRED BY GOD FOR HIS CHUCH): BOTH OT AND NT, TELL BELIEVERS THIS: LEAVE THE URBAN AREAS: CITIES. YES IT SAYS THIS...IN MULTIPLE VERSES (SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE AND NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING).

THERE ARE POWERFUL PROMISES THAT GOD HAS FOR HIS CHILDREN TO DO SO.

ANYONE THAT DOES A COMPLETE STUDY ON ALL "ACTION" WORDS (VERBS) USED BY THE SCRIPTURES (WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING OR END OF THE AGE) WILL SEE THERE ARE INTO THE DOZENS OF THESE VERSES - JUST ON THIS "ONE" ALONE.

Again, I'm not going to debate this...do the research.

But again to remind: the PRIMARY FOCUS OF "PREPPING" IS INTERNAL (ALL ASPECTS OF SACNTIFICATION: HOPE, LOVE, PEACE, JOY, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, HONOR, SELFLESSNESS, OBEDIENCE, ETC, ETC.)

This is also not to imply, that those that "haven't done much" in prepping are necessarily disobedient and/or will "have an especially difficult time with the GT". Remember, God can make a dinner in the wilderness.

Praise God
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Respectfully friends...both (OT and NT) are filled with admonitions for (true believers in the Prince of the Kings of the Earth: those of the saints of the Most High - those spiritually reborn, specifically, His Church)...to "make preparation" as you put it, and to do so (specifically within the context of the "end of the age" and the nearing (of the appearing) of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.)

Because it's late tonight, I'm not going to reiterate (some long list of verses on this subject)...but again, they are there; and it's deep.

They just may not be in the (exact way that, perhaps one's mind is "expecting them"), when one thinks of "prepping".

Most importantly, I can tell you categorically - the heart of the "prepping" (again for the believer) - is in the "internal" prepping; ie "sanctification".

I've done a large amount of research on this specific subject (of this specific subject matter of this above post: namely, verses with "action words" for the church, as the second coming nears), and can tell you that (THERE ARE BETWEEN 78 AND 82 VERSES IN THE NT THAT SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF TWO THINGS: 1. GOD'S DESIRE FOR THE CHRISTIAN'S "ACTIONS" (VERB USED IN SCRIPTURE) 2. THIS "VERB" (EITHER AN ADMONITION OR COMMAND) FROM "1" AND...DONE WITHIN THE SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF THE NEARING/APPROACHING SECOND COMING OF CHRIST...IN OTHER WORDS TO "DO" DURING THE END DAYS.) It's between these two numbers because it depends on how you count the verses (and using "bible software" won't get this for you due to "subject matter" within word/sentence context...you must read the entire Word of God, specifically counting/looking for this as you read (which I've personally done with the NT, but not completed the OT yet on this project).

As I said earlier, these verses are desires God has for His believers (to do, act upon, become, etc.) within the context of the end of the age...and they mostly deal with "INTERNAL" PREPPING "AS THAT DAY APPROACHES"...HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO A SBUSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM - THAT ALSO INCLUDE "PHYSICAL" PREPPEING. (AGAIN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE.)

FOR NOW, LET ME LEAVE JUST ONE BIG ONE (ON THE "PHYSICAL" SIDE OF THE PREPPING DESIRED BY GOD FOR HIS CHUCH): BOTH OT AND NT, TELL BELIEVERS THIS: LEAVE THE URBAN AREAS: CITIES. YES IT SAYS THIS...IN MULTIPLE VERSES (SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE AND NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING).

THERE ARE POWERFUL PROMISES THAT GOD HAS FOR HIS CHILDREN TO DO SO.

ANYONE THAT DOES A COMPLETE STUDY ON ALL "ACTION" WORDS (VERBS) USED BY THE SCRIPTURES (WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING OR END OF THE AGE) WILL SEE THERE ARE INTO THE DOZENS OF THESE VERSES - JUST ON THIS "ONE" ALONE.

Again, I'm not going to debate this...do the research.

But again to remind: the PRIMARY FOCUS OF "PREPPING" IS INTERNAL (ALL ASPECTS OF SACNTIFICATION: HOPE, LOVE, PEACE, JOY, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, HONOR, SELFLESSNESS, OBEDIENCE, ETC, ETC.)

This is also not to imply, that those that "haven't done much" in prepping are necessarily disobedient and/or will "have an especially difficult time with the GT". Remember, God can make a dinner in the wilderness.

Praise God
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Very well said and in my post, I guess I didn't make it very clear...

the only preparation you have to make for the coming of Christ is in your Heart. All that you need will be taken care of...the only thing required is faith.

To store up food, ammunition and supplies "just in case" isn't really expressing much faith. Just remember the story of the lilies...

Those that
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Which do you choose. A slow burn out, things only getting harder and more precarious or do you choose to thrive. Get your plan together. World GDP is only 60 triilion US DEBT 18 triilion. WOW WITH ALL OuR MANUFACTURING WE CAN SURELY OVERCOME, OR DID OUR GOV SELL US OUT.
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What is coming is so frightening, OP.. Men's hearts will fail in fear...

No one is, or can be, prepared for what is coming...

It is indignation. And it will rise up once. And never again.

May you be found in the grace of The Almighty in that day.
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Fear is the problem...
Fear is the obstruction...
Fear is the enemy...
Fear is the destroyer...

Fear is the opposite of Bravery, not cowardice.
Fear is the opposite of Trust, not suspicion and doubt.
The opposite of Faith, is not disbelief... it is Fear.
The opposite of Love, is not hatred... it is Fear.

Fear is the fraud...
Fear is the deception...
Fear is the trap...
Fear is the prison...

To accept Fear is a choice.
Choose rather, the opposite of Fear.
Choose Trust...
Choose Faith...
Choose Love.

God is Love.
Choose God!
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FEAR IS INACCURATE, IMPURE AND INCONSISTANT...

IN CONTRAST TO WHAT IS PERFECT, ABSOLUTE AND PURE...

THAT IS "THE TRUTH"...

ONLY ONE PERSON EVER CLAIMED TO BE "THE TRUTH"...

HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST!!!
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WAKE UP???

AND DO WHAT???

I HEAR A LOT OF BITCHIN AND GRIPING...

BUT NOT ONE SINGLE SUGGESTION...

NOT ONE SINGLE CALL TO ACTION...

ALL I HEAR IS CRICKETS!!!
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HERE IS THE ANSWER...

THAT IS DESPERATLY NEEDED...

IN THE TIME OF NEED...

THIS ANSWER HAS BEEN RIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL YOU...

SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME!!!



THIS ANSWER HAS BEEN POO POOED BY EVERYONE...

AND THIS IS WHY WE ARE IN THIS SITUTATION NOW...
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HOW DOES ONE SOLVE A PROBLEM OF THIS MAGANITUDE???

GO TO WHAT IS ABSOLUTE!!!

GO TO "THE TRUTH"...

ACCEPT "THE TRUTH" ...

STAND ON THE TRUTH" ...

AND VICTORY IS YOURS!!!

"THE TRUTH" IS ABSOLUTE...

AND THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS NOT..

AND IS BY THAT VERY POINT...

DEFEATABLE!!!
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DO IT NOW!!!

AND GET THIS CRAP TAKEN CARE OF!!!
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GET OFF YOUR ASS AND SIDE WITH VICTORY...

INSTEAD OF LOSING EVERYTHING!!!
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Very well said and in my post, I guess I didn't make it very clear...

the only preparation you have to make for the coming of Christ is in your Heart. All that you need will be taken care of...the only thing required is faith.

To store up food, ammunition and supplies "just in case" isn't really expressing much faith. Just remember the story of the lilies...

Those that





Not so, not so, not so!

Jesus told a parable of the foolish and the wise 10 virgins.

Who while the bridegroom tarried five of the ten trimmed their wicks in their lanterns and brought extra oil. And when the bridegroom tarried the foolish brides ask of those who had brought oil and were told by the wise virgins to go purchase their own.

So when the foolish virgins went to get more oil, the bridegroom came and they were not there.

The coming of the bridegroom is like unto...
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If Americans want their country, and this is about retaining your country, make no mistake, my suggestion is a concerted effort to round up enough to pay off the debt to China. If the actual citizens were able to do this through an organized effort, considered a loan, it may save the. As far as paying back fed and other countries, that can wait.

Pensions, real estate, gold/silver/precious gems - all thrown in pot and with a trusted accounting firm, added up and offered to those holding US debt.

Taking back your country from the banks (DHS is the elitist's army) is your prime goal. Pay off the debt. Tell them to get the F out of Dodge and begin the healing process.

Edward Snowden probably holds much information regarding who is responsible for this orchestrated heist in the US. But globalization is a scam to transfer wealth and elimination of the middle class is a consequence.
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"So load up and ride along. Most here will die with a basement full of dry storage and silver coins because the big one was always coming soon."

The very definition of faith IS preparedness.

The bible is actually full of preparation lessons. Lets just consider Noah as a quick example. Your idea of having faith is not correct. Faith is what Obama used to get elected. He called it hope. Hope is for the weak and he prayed upon a weak nation to get elected. Never has he taught anyone to prepare. In fact just the opposite. He has told everyone he is going to pay their way so they wont have to worry at all. Healthcare etc etc etc...

Here are a zillion examples of the bible teaching faith as preparation that you somehow overlooked:

Matthew 24:44

Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

1 Corinthians 16:13

Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.

Matthew 25:13

Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

1 Peter 3:15

But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

Proverbs 6:6-8

Go to the ant, O sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise. Without having any chief, officer, or ruler, she prepares her bread in summer and gathers her food in harvest.

Hebrews 11:7

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

1 John 2:28

And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming.

Matthew 25:1-46

“Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.

Romans 13:11-14

Besides this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.

Proverbs 22:3

The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it.

James 2:24

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.

Colossians 2:8

See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

John 14:3

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Jeremiah 1:5

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Titus 2:13

Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Philippians 4:13

I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

1 Corinthians 15:52

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

Matthew 24:42

Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

Luke 18:8

I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

Psalm 23:4

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

John 16:33

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

Ephesians 2:10

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Luke 13:3

No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. gh

Revelation 2:11

He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.’

Revelation 1:7

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

James 2:18

But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

Galatians 3:27

For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Acts 22:16

And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’

Acts 2:1-47

When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven.

John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Matthew 25:41

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Matthew 5:8

“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Amos 4:12

“Therefore thus I will do to you, O Israel; because I will do this to you, prepare to meet your God, O Israel!”

Psalm 1:1-6

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;

1 John 5:15

And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked of him.

1 John 4:1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Hebrews 11:1-40

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation. By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible. By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks. By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God.

2 Timothy 4:6

For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come.

1 Corinthians 4:5

Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

Romans 10:9

Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 5:8

But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Acts 1:11

And said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

Luke 12:47-48

And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.

Luke 12:32-48

“Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. “Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks.

Matthew 20:1-16

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same.

Matthew 7:7-12

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

Ezekiel 18:20

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

2 Samuel 23:6

But worthless men are all like thorns that are thrown away, for they cannot be taken with the hand;

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Matthew 24:1-51

Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.

Genesis 19:1-38

The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed himself with his face to the earth and said, “My lords, please turn aside to your servant's house and spend the night and wash your feet. Then you may rise up early and go on your way.” They said, “No; we will spend the night in the town square.” But he pressed them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house. And he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

Romans 10:13

For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Luke 21:36

But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Luke 16:19-31

“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.

Matthew 25:46

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Isaiah 27:13 ESV

And in that day a great trumpet will be blown, and those who were lost in the land of Assyria and those who were driven out to the land of Egypt will come and worship the Lord on the holy mountain at Jerusalem.

Exodus 19:10-15

The Lord said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their garments and be ready for the third day. For on the third day the Lord will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. And you shall set limits for the people all around, saying, ‘Take care not to go up into the mountain or touch the edge of it. Whoever touches the mountain shall be put to death. No hand shall touch him, but he shall be stoned or shot; whether beast or man, he shall not live.’ When the trumpet sounds a long blast, they shall come up to the mountain.” So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and consecrated the people; and they washed their garments.

Exodus 3:7-17

Then the Lord said, “I have surely seen the affliction of my people who are in Egypt and have heard their cry because of their taskmasters. I know their sufferings, and I have come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a good and broad land, a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. And now, behold, the cry of the people of Israel has come to me, and I have also seen the oppression with which the Egyptians oppress them. Come, I will send you to Pharaoh that you may bring my people, the children of Israel, out of Egypt.” But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the children of Israel out of Egypt?”

Revelation 11:7

And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them,

2 Thessalonians

In flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

Romans 9:1-33

I am speaking the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit— that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

Matthew 17:1-9

And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James, and John his brother, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him. And Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.”

Hosea 13:14

Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol? Shall I redeem them from Death? O Death, where are your plagues? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion is hidden from my eyes.

Matthew 3:8

Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
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COMMON CORE, AGENDA 21, FUKUSHIMA, WIPP, FINANCIAL RUIN, HIGH PARKED OVER CALIFORNIA, DROUGHT IN THE WEST, CLIMATE CONTROL MIDWEST, FROZEN SOUTH, THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CONTROL WHAT EVER THEY DESIRE! It is time to prepair. Keep it in the back of your mind. All of this they do is only to serve their needs. Look at the game in Ukraine. Propaganda running
wild. Then a Malaysa plane goes missing I think its a distraction.
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Fed won't let it happen. The only thing prepping is good for is an asteroid impact, and even then it's probably bye-bye.
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Keep the wall of scripture and get down to brass tax. Be prepaired. Get a pressure cooker and can food. Plant your garden, show these rich f@*ks who is boss. Do not lay down in the face of adversity.
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Oh and one last thing. What we must do can you food, grow your garden, store seeds, raise chickens, teach your cildren and if you are so inclined throw out your TV.
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For how long have we been hearing this? And it never happens... But I seriously think it is right around the corner.
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Great point that will be ignored in favor of doom scenarios. I have been reading and hearing this same crap for decades. Yes it seems that this will be the outcome and each generation is the same story. I recall the drills in grade school just in case of a nuclear attack that seemed to be on the horizon. Even biblical preachers and prophets ( christians will ignore this as well ) predicted Armageddon and Jesus coming , rapture etc. So here it is here at GLP and the same old news. So this all makes up for good drama but go on people and live your lives. This all is for entertainment purposes. YOur money is good and the stock market will go up and down as usual. THe aliens aren't attacking and planet X is not going to crash into earth etc. LOL IT is all an illusion this disaster doom thing. If it were all true and those that push this scenario I guarantee have money in the bank and still go to their jobs and still live here in the US. If they feared would they be getting married and having babies ? Just enjoy the show. Oh yes Planet Z is on it's way and should earth in 15 years. Oh yes. the economy will collapse as well this year. Pick up Peter Schiff's new book and he will tell you about it. These authors make a ton of money based on your fears of the unknown. IT is the unknown so how could they know ? They don't know. An d the earthquake they announced here years ago that was going to sink California hasn't hit yet. All BS. BUt enjoyable BS. Keep it coming. One last thing Jesus is coming soon.
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knew it was just a matter of time until the bibletard quotes came rolling in

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same story for ages, nothing will happen, GLP effect
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Is this what you are talking about?

PS Don't fall over in a faint when you read it, it is awful. Some of it sounds true, don't know however.

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This scenario is not likely to happen at all. It is written not from the perspective of an American, but that of a socialist. Americans, true Americans, not the welfare class or dependent class is not dependent upon the government for their livelihood.

Lets say the situation develops just like as written. In the very first week, there will be two Americas. The dependent class will riot and start tearing up their own neighborhoods in protest because their govbment check did not show up on time, and they are running out of weed or something else and withdrawals are kicking in. The second America will be joining together to protect themselves, gather resources, growing food, form clinics to take care of the sick or injured. The last thing this America will want is the illegitimate government showing up to restore order in their way.

Why do I call the government illegitimate? Because if a economic collapse happens under the decisions made by this same government, the full faith and credit of that government is completely already lost and they have not credibility or authority unless it comes from the barrel of a gun. This is what we prepare for...
 Quoting: Bonefortoona



Definitely not written by a socialist. Look at the described "split" between urban and rural in the description. The urban represents the socialist side of the split, and what the outcome will be for their way of life.

But after a few weeks of "batten down the hatches", the rural folks are already rebuilding their local economy with barter, sustaining their communities with real charity, and rebuilding. The implication here is that the urbanites are signing their own death warrants by supporting the socialist government, economy, and mindset... and that in the aftermath, it will be rural America that arises to restore our nation to freedom on the foundation of self-sustaining communities.

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 Quoting: BattlesightZero


"...rural folks...rebuilding...arises to restore...nation.."

"..urban represents the socialist side..."


The major flaw (when visualizing this scenerio) is the hundreds of thousands of urban SPRAWL into the BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS...but they are STILL HOODS.

The middle class primarily LIVES IN URBAN SPRAWL...

Take a look around; drive around...EVERYWHERE there is SPRAWL (the so-called 'better' homes/schools/services/neighborhoods/parks/amenities) that the MIDDLE CLASS PROPPED UP...is in these 'sprawling middle class subdivisions...'

THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE JUST AS DESPERATE, JUST AS HASTY AND NASTY as the 'urban EBT dependants' et al.

The REAL problem will be that there were WAY TOO FEW PREPPERS...

While everyone else was TOO BUSY HAVING FUN, WATCHING TV, CLUBBING, BUYING JUNK...the preppers watched the news and saw the writing on the wall.

No matter HOW MANY TIMES we WARNED EVERYONE, they JUST DID NOT CARE...

There will be NO rural revitalization because ALL OF THOSE HORDES of nonpreppers are gona mow those places down.

Not unless you're WAY WAY WAY out there. OUT of sight and OUT of mind.

You will be KILLED for your sh#t.

BEST thing to do is GET VIGILANT and go to social media sites (Topix: African-American, Facebook: everyone, LInked, etc etc), and KEEP PUSHING PEOPLE TO GET PREPPED.

Now that the MSM has leaked the Fukushima radiation coming, people will start buzzing about it...

Have your plans. HElp as many as you can. Then gtfo.
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Its your opinion, but the way I see it is there is no boundary to urban vs rural. Its a mindset. Not everyone in the urban setting receives government assistance. These people will be prepared to do whatever is necessary be it bugging out or standing firm and defending, it just depends upon the situation. Same with Rural settings, not everyone is prepared for what is coming.

Assuming that during SHTF that everyone is going to die, is just ridiculous.

The mindset is what makes the difference.
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"...there is no boundary to urban vs rural..."

extactly. that's what i said. the URBAN (EXTREMELY dense, living: "1st of the month chex," and "EBT" cart payouts)

WILL and ARE going to give HELL to ALL of those SPRAWLING MIDDLE CLASS COMMUNITIES...first.

They'll attempt to hit the small towns AFTER the former...bloodbath....

It will be house to house guierlla warfare...unless of course DHS saves the day...

If that happens, expect long, long, long, ANGRY lines at WALMART to get their GOVERNMENT RATIONS OF FOOD/SUPPLIES.

Your job/Our job is to BE RELENTLESS AT GETTING PEOPLE PREPPED: Rice, beans, juice packets, sugar, etc., and helping the 'food kitchens,' 'churches,' 'half-way houses,' etc., PUT UP POSTERS about prepping.

Hand out 'leaflets.'

Put 'notes' on cars at the malls...LOL!!

Check out this inner city 'black' guy who's prepped to the max and does not care who knows; he's sounding the alarm for 'his community' to get prepped:

Demcad.
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Not going to happen, this is pure fear-mongering.

Yes there will be the occasional riot or civil unrest here and there but the infrastructure is in place and they don't want it destroyed only to have to rebuilt it all over again.

Yes, similar events may have happened in the past but this kind of scenario is no longer applicable to the current energies of the planet.

Next topic...
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COMMON CORE, AGENDA 21, FUKUSHIMA, WIPP, FINANCIAL RUIN, HIGH PARKED OVER CALIFORNIA, DROUGHT IN THE WEST, CLIMATE CONTROL MIDWEST, FROZEN SOUTH, THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CONTROL WHAT EVER THEY DESIRE! It is time to prepair. Keep it in the back of your mind. All of this they do is only to serve their needs. Look at the game in Ukraine. Propaganda running
wild. Then a Malaysa plane goes missing I think its a distraction.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

Common Core Standards are not only in schools, but are now standard in the military, FBI, CIA, and most other government agencies.

This Power Point lecture was given in November, 2013 at the Utah County Fairgrounds by Clint Richardson. Special thanks to Linda Oberhansley for organizing the event.

Other research on Common Core by Clint:

[link to realitybloger.wordpress.com]

[link to realitybloger.wordpress.com]

Please utilize the following links for total CORE immersion.

1- Read the Annual Financial Report for "CORE Education and Technologies" corporation:

Link: [link to www.core-edutech.com]

***Previous years reports will have other valuable information

Link: [link to www.core-edutech.com]

2- Explore the "CORE Education and Consulting Services" main International website based in India:

Link: [link to www.coreecs.com]

3- Learn who CORE's international corporate and government Shareholders are:

Link: [link to www.core-edutech.com]

4- CORE learning tools for Autistic and other special needs children -- the workforce of the future: Computers and keyboards for autistic kids are learning on.

Link: [link to www.coreecs.com]

5- Dr. Rima Liabou video "Don't Delta Me, Dude!":

Link: [link to www.youtube.com]

6- "CSCOPE" is CORE in Texas. This is a watchdog site:

Link: [link to www.txcscopereview.com]

7- CORE is essentially Agenda 21. Here is the Texas "School Transformation" website:

Link: [link to www.transformtexas.org]

8- This comes from the "Public Education Visioning Institute", which is all Texas school superintendents literally proof of their conspiring to "Transform" public education into for profit private enterprise by implementing CSCOPE as part of "Common Core" model standards and best practices. They also admit the failure of their own education system. (Very Important):

Link: [link to www.transformtexas.org]

9- Link to the Report issued by Public Education Visioning Institute called "Creating a New Vision for Public Education in Texas"... "Respectfully Offered by Superintendent Participants in the Public Education Visioning Institute":

Link: [link to www.tasb.org]

For those who know IT and computer code, CORE's main function is data collection and management. This search page searches Texas CSCOPE and CORE programming:

Link: [link to search.tea.state.tx.us]

Propagandist for special needs children:

Link: [link to www.youtube.com]

Clint's Documentaries include:

Lethal Injection: The Story of Vaccines - [link to www.youtube.com]

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Not going to happen, this is pure fear-mongering.

Yes there will be the occasional riot or civil unrest here and there but the infrastructure is in place and they don't want it destroyed only to have to rebuilt it all over again.

Yes, similar events may have happened in the past but this kind of scenario is no longer applicable to the current energies of the planet.

Next topic...
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fear-mongering?

lets see here.

During the great depression, the american 'culture' had way more, er, um, 'chivalry,' and decency. What do you suppose modern day soup lines...would be like...in the U.S.?

The world, in fact every single 'nation' has its turn at civil strife, riots, famines, disease, and WAR.

Let's look at the recent 'events' in: Greece, Spain, Argentina, Cyprus, France, Ireland, Ukraine...

...and imagine, just imagine what DOESN'T get reported, i.e., every summer, EVERY summer almost the entire nation of France gets 'set on fire.' There's 'incident maps' which plot out just how BAD France is and has been . . . The gendarme don't even go into specific 'neighborhoods' anymore...

Now imagine what would happen there if ALL THAT WELFARE GOT DISRUPTED, BANKRUPTED, DISAPPEARED, MALFUNCTIONED...

AND, to top that off, a 'coup' of some sort with a 'faction' taking control...

You can stay relaxed and you can gain comfort in scriptures, but it would be utterly FOOLISH NOT TO SEE THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES we are living in.

Prepare while we have the grace to do so.
Even if you don't personally ever 'use' your preps...you can pass them down to others...which is BETTER than silver or gold...

In the 1920s GREAT DEPRESSION, OVER HALF of the U.S. population STILL LIVED ON FARMS...

Now the total U.S. population (OVER HALF) overwhelmingly lives in cities; only a miniscule 'fraction' of our population even owns/runs farms anymore....

Teach men to fish....
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>>>Teach men to fish....

Not possible to fish except licenced.. and only 5 fish per person limit. haha
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As scary as it sounds, the ruling elites won't let this happen.

This kind of collapse means their comfortable luxurious lifestyle will come to a screeching halt, their properties, vineyards, anything they can't quickly transport will be looted and damaged by desperate people.

Military workers won't be there to serve them as they have their own families to take care of. People won't get in line to surrender their guns, they will simply shoot to kill to get food. It will be a real mess and impossible to restore in mere months. TPTB will do anything to maintain the 'normal order' because once it's gone, their power is gone with it.
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I too believe that something bad is brewing but why is the above theory instantly considered BS simply because it shows maybe a teeny tiny tad of lop-sided optimism? And I had to think real hard before even saying that because I'm grateful to GLP for opening my eyes a year ago and I'd hate to be labeled a you-know-what for thinking that maybe...just maybe...TBTB have kind of fallen prey to their own devices as stated above.

Isn't it POSSIBLE that these fat banker cows like being the kinda fat that we the people have made it possible for them to be? Because if the world really falls to that cataclysmic end, how comfortable are they going to be able to be? Are they going to be happy hunkered down in their pimped out bunkers with bankrolls of cash that they couldn't use even if they wanted to? I'm just curious what the opinion would be about that?

I have to be honest (and not that I matter) and say that I am a single mom with a 25-year old disabled son at home and I'm fearful for his happiness. I'm worried for all of us. I'm going to put myself out there here and ask if anyone besides me is afraid of the predictions (FEMA, Martial Law, the DOOM DOOM). I don't want to die. I don't want my child to die. I want us all to live to see another day, good or bad, and I guess sometimes I wonder if anyone loses sleep.

I see what's coming in so many ways - I watch for it all day and see it everywhere, seeping in. I've tried to prepare as best I can but it never seems enough. I've got my firearms and not afraid to use it AT ALL but would rather not.

Please...is it REALLY an impossibility that TPTB WOULDN'T rather things stay at least how they are?? At this point, I'd be okay with that! Not thrilled, but definitely okay! What is the answer?
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Why will millions die? I can see that in a grid down situation, but this scenario you describe means at the very least a takeover of some sort. Not even the govt can maintain control with what you describe.

There are far too many rich an elite who live here who also won't have food, right?

I just can't put it together enough to think that what you describe is plausible.
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I'm thinking these same questions. EMP situation...without a doubt...millions/billions dead. But, otherwise, why would that necessarily have to happen? How can TPTB maintain their lifestyle when there's no lifestyle left to maintain? Even their money won't be worth the paper it's printed on, right?
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Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
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That's a downright knock-you-on-your-ass good point.

*whew*
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Respectfully friends...both (OT and NT) are filled with admonitions for (true believers in the Prince of the Kings of the Earth: those of the saints of the Most High - those spiritually reborn, specifically, His Church)...to "make preparation" as you put it, and to do so (specifically within the context of the "end of the age" and the nearing (of the appearing) of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.)

Because it's late tonight, I'm not going to reiterate (some long list of verses on this subject)...but again, they are there; and it's deep.

They just may not be in the (exact way that, perhaps one's mind is "expecting them"), when one thinks of "prepping".

Most importantly, I can tell you categorically - the heart of the "prepping" (again for the believer) - is in the "internal" prepping; ie "sanctification".

I've done a large amount of research on this specific subject (of this specific subject matter of this above post: namely, verses with "action words" for the church, as the second coming nears), and can tell you that (THERE ARE BETWEEN 78 AND 82 VERSES IN THE NT THAT SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF TWO THINGS: 1. GOD'S DESIRE FOR THE CHRISTIAN'S "ACTIONS" (VERB USED IN SCRIPTURE) 2. THIS "VERB" (EITHER AN ADMONITION OR COMMAND) FROM "1" AND...DONE WITHIN THE SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF THE NEARING/APPROACHING SECOND COMING OF CHRIST...IN OTHER WORDS TO "DO" DURING THE END DAYS.) It's between these two numbers because it depends on how you count the verses (and using "bible software" won't get this for you due to "subject matter" within word/sentence context...you must read the entire Word of God, specifically counting/looking for this as you read (which I've personally done with the NT, but not completed the OT yet on this project).

As I said earlier, these verses are desires God has for His believers (to do, act upon, become, etc.) within the context of the end of the age...and they mostly deal with "INTERNAL" PREPPING "AS THAT DAY APPROACHES"...HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO A SBUSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM - THAT ALSO INCLUDE "PHYSICAL" PREPPEING. (AGAIN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE.)

FOR NOW, LET ME LEAVE JUST ONE BIG ONE (ON THE "PHYSICAL" SIDE OF THE PREPPING DESIRED BY GOD FOR HIS CHUCH): BOTH OT AND NT, TELL BELIEVERS THIS: LEAVE THE URBAN AREAS: CITIES. YES IT SAYS THIS...IN MULTIPLE VERSES (SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE AND NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING).

THERE ARE POWERFUL PROMISES THAT GOD HAS FOR HIS CHILDREN TO DO SO.

ANYONE THAT DOES A COMPLETE STUDY ON ALL "ACTION" WORDS (VERBS) USED BY THE SCRIPTURES (WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING OR END OF THE AGE) WILL SEE THERE ARE INTO THE DOZENS OF THESE VERSES - JUST ON THIS "ONE" ALONE.

Again, I'm not going to debate this...do the research.

But again to remind: the PRIMARY FOCUS OF "PREPPING" IS INTERNAL (ALL ASPECTS OF SACNTIFICATION: HOPE, LOVE, PEACE, JOY, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, HONOR, SELFLESSNESS, OBEDIENCE, ETC, ETC.)

This is also not to imply, that those that "haven't done much" in prepping are necessarily disobedient and/or will "have an especially difficult time with the GT". Remember, God can make a dinner in the wilderness.

Praise God
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So we're back to it all being about God's wrath...God's wrath...God's wrath. This thread was misleading because here we are again. Yes, it's been made clear on so many threads that NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, Jesus is coming and anyone who hasn't asked (no..BEGGED)to be saved is going to die a vicious, awful, flame-filled death while those who did ask/beg watch gleefully from above in apparent awe of the spectacle. I thought God was a loving God! The so-called Christians who come here to spew THEIR wrath sound as evil as TPTB that we all profess to hate. You make (not all of you but you know who you are) God out to be a vengeful, bitter, narcissistic entity who only cares about those who kiss his ass and fuck the rest. As a Lutheran, I was simply never taught that and whether right or wrong, I'm glad because I still have faith in human kind (to the degree that I can) and the God that I love feels the same. A large group here sounds just a little to eager to fly away to the Big Kingdom...a little TOO ready to give up LIVING. Do any of you have children? Are you going to force them to drink a little koolaid (ala Jim Jones-style)in p-reparation for a rocket-ship ride to heaven???It's a little creepy, people. Maybe YOU are the brainwashed ones...maybe TPTB WANT you to WANT to die...to believe in THE RAPTURE (whatever)...to BELIEVE that there's a one-way ticket to heaven under your pillow. That's not a bad trick actually...kind of a quick way to get a population to willingly de-populate, isn't it????? Why stay down here and fight for everything you know and love??? You think God wouldn't WANT that? You think he'd rather take you - the QUITTERS - for the final ride??? And what makes YOU a believer just because you say you are???

Shut the fuck up and go read the Bible. My God is a loving God and he doesn't WANT his world destroyed. He doesn't WANT the people of this earth - all those that he created in his image - to die horrible deaths and he certainly isn't going to enjoy watching it happen if it does. And he's not so pissed at the bad in the world (since he did give us FREE WILL) that he would basically turn his back on the good who have done their best and want to stay and finish what we started!!!! He might even throw a little Divine Intervention our way to help. Good OVER Evil, remember??? Either way, the God that YOU depict is a selfish entity and mine isn't so I'll stick with what I believe.

Give some thought to my brainwashing theory...wouldn't put it past the MSM and TPTB to push the propaganda button towards a twisted religion. Come, little sheep, it's good to die because you go directly to heaven...now drink your kool-aid and lay down. The Rapture! The Rapture! Watch everyone burn. You sick fucks (not all...). Now you pissed me off and I lost it. I never feel this way buit I was asking questions thinking I was on a thread that was about reality. It's late...fuck it, I'm going to bed.
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I'm hungry, a nice apple with cheese sounds good.
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I'm hungry, a nice apple with cheese sounds good.
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That actually sounds delicious.

And btw, I shouldn't have connected my rant to the quote that I did because I see that the poster is a kind soul. I meant to attach it to all the others and I think some of you know the posts that I mean. So forgive me for that..

I'll take that piece of pie now with cheese and maybe some vanilla ice cream.
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Keep the faith, most of us on here love Jesus Christ!
Nite nite.
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"As scary as it sounds, the ruling elites won't let this happen"

You are right. The proof is the fact that all banks have made obtaining loans a literal impossibility unless you have the money and asset liquidity in full already available to them.

Thus they will loan you the money if you already have the money available and a near perfect credit score. These flush investing class people are looking for yield and not finding much opportunity because of general deflation and shortened investment maturity time spans.

Second, all QE money has been going directly to the banks and literally saved to backstop the inevitable crash. What is loaned out is secured by matching assets.

So banks wont fail, they will just close for a short period of time. Max 6 months if your scenario evolves. They collectively have a few trillion in cash to backstop banking runs after the fact and probably at some discount.

Third, banking regulations were put into place making profitability impossible for the entire banking industry short of the biggest banks taking large bets on risky investments (to control commodities and countries). Loan portfolio profitability is also impossible due to banks not being able to make loans under new regulations.

Fourth, you cant foreclose on a home for a minimum of 6 months of non payment. You cannot contact the homeowner during that period of time. (These are new laws that just took effect.)

This implies a deflationary scenario and also support a slow grinding reset that could span decades.

Your apocalyptic scenario is not going to happen. All ai models support this because they will be telling TPTB that any hard collapse will cause them to lose control and power. This is something they will not give up easily.

Your scenario is too easy. Yet in some ways it would be the best thing to ever happen to the people should they work together rather than fight each other.

That is also something you are not considering.
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And yet, the best laid plans of mice and men...

One little hic-cup, and it all comes carshing down
 Quoting: MisfitToy


Yes, sir. Exactly this.

As much as they say "it can't happen again", it will.

And because it will break their controlling hand, it will be a good thing in the end.

But yes, it will be horrific in terms of loss of life - and that is what concerns me. Thus I warn people to prepare...
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Re: What is Coming, and What we Must Do
Seems like there would be at least one verse relating to this accumulation or prep for believers in Revelation or one of the gospels. Yet we find the opposite of this theme. This has a lot of implications because it can only mean one of two things.
 Quoting: Revo/elation


That's a downright knock-you-on-your-ass good point.

*whew*
 Quoting: Frayed Knot


Respectfully friends...both (OT and NT) are filled with admonitions for (true believers in the Prince of the Kings of the Earth: those of the saints of the Most High - those spiritually reborn, specifically, His Church)...to "make preparation" as you put it, and to do so (specifically within the context of the "end of the age" and the nearing (of the appearing) of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.)

Because it's late tonight, I'm not going to reiterate (some long list of verses on this subject)...but again, they are there; and it's deep.

They just may not be in the (exact way that, perhaps one's mind is "expecting them"), when one thinks of "prepping".

Most importantly, I can tell you categorically - the heart of the "prepping" (again for the believer) - is in the "internal" prepping; ie "sanctification".

I've done a large amount of research on this specific subject (of this specific subject matter of this above post: namely, verses with "action words" for the church, as the second coming nears), and can tell you that (THERE ARE BETWEEN 78 AND 82 VERSES IN THE NT THAT SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF TWO THINGS: 1. GOD'S DESIRE FOR THE CHRISTIAN'S "ACTIONS" (VERB USED IN SCRIPTURE) 2. THIS "VERB" (EITHER AN ADMONITION OR COMMAND) FROM "1" AND...DONE WITHIN THE SPECIFIC CONTEXT OF THE NEARING/APPROACHING SECOND COMING OF CHRIST...IN OTHER WORDS TO "DO" DURING THE END DAYS.) It's between these two numbers because it depends on how you count the verses (and using "bible software" won't get this for you due to "subject matter" within word/sentence context...you must read the entire Word of God, specifically counting/looking for this as you read (which I've personally done with the NT, but not completed the OT yet on this project).

As I said earlier, these verses are desires God has for His believers (to do, act upon, become, etc.) within the context of the end of the age...and they mostly deal with "INTERNAL" PREPPING "AS THAT DAY APPROACHES"...HOWEVER, THERE IS ALSO A SBUSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THEM - THAT ALSO INCLUDE "PHYSICAL" PREPPEING. (AGAIN WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE.)

FOR NOW, LET ME LEAVE JUST ONE BIG ONE (ON THE "PHYSICAL" SIDE OF THE PREPPING DESIRED BY GOD FOR HIS CHUCH): BOTH OT AND NT, TELL BELIEVERS THIS: LEAVE THE URBAN AREAS: CITIES. YES IT SAYS THIS...IN MULTIPLE VERSES (SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE END OF THE AGE AND NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING).

THERE ARE POWERFUL PROMISES THAT GOD HAS FOR HIS CHILDREN TO DO SO.

ANYONE THAT DOES A COMPLETE STUDY ON ALL "ACTION" WORDS (VERBS) USED BY THE SCRIPTURES (WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE NEARING OF THE SECOND COMING OR END OF THE AGE) WILL SEE THERE ARE INTO THE DOZENS OF THESE VERSES - JUST ON THIS "ONE" ALONE.

Again, I'm not going to debate this...do the research.

But again to remind: the PRIMARY FOCUS OF "PREPPING" IS INTERNAL (ALL ASPECTS OF SACNTIFICATION: HOPE, LOVE, PEACE, JOY, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, HONOR, SELFLESSNESS, OBEDIENCE, ETC, ETC.)

This is also not to imply, that those that "haven't done much" in prepping are necessarily disobedient and/or will "have an especially difficult time with the GT". Remember, God can make a dinner in the wilderness.

Praise God
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So we're back to it all being about God's wrath...God's wrath...God's wrath. This thread was misleading because here we are again. Yes, it's been made clear on so many threads that NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, Jesus is coming and anyone who hasn't asked (no..BEGGED)to be saved is going to die a vicious, awful, flame-filled death while those who did ask/beg watch gleefully from above in apparent awe of the spectacle. I thought God was a loving God! The so-called Christians who come here to spew THEIR wrath sound as evil as TPTB that we all profess to hate. You make (not all of you but you know who you are) God out to be a vengeful, bitter, narcissistic entity who only cares about those who kiss his ass and fuck the rest. As a Lutheran, I was simply never taught that and whether right or wrong, I'm glad because I still have faith in human kind (to the degree that I can) and the God that I love feels the same. A large group here sounds just a little to eager to fly away to the Big Kingdom...a little TOO ready to give up LIVING. Do any of you have children? Are you going to force them to drink a little koolaid (ala Jim Jones-style)in p-reparation for a rocket-ship ride to heaven???It's a little creepy, people. Maybe YOU are the brainwashed ones...maybe TPTB WANT you to WANT to die...to believe in THE RAPTURE (whatever)...to BELIEVE that there's a one-way ticket to heaven under your pillow. That's not a bad trick actually...kind of a quick way to get a population to willingly de-populate, isn't it????? Why stay down here and fight for everything you know and love??? You think God wouldn't WANT that? You think he'd rather take you - the QUITTERS - for the final ride??? And what makes YOU a believer just because you say you are???

Shut the fuck up and go read the Bible. My God is a loving God and he doesn't WANT his world destroyed. He doesn't WANT the people of this earth - all those that he created in his image - to die horrible deaths and he certainly isn't going to enjoy watching it happen if it does. And he's not so pissed at the bad in the world (since he did give us FREE WILL) that he would basically turn his back on the good who have done their best and want to stay and finish what we started!!!! He might even throw a little Divine Intervention our way to help. Good OVER Evil, remember??? Either way, the God that YOU depict is a selfish entity and mine isn't so I'll stick with what I believe.

Give some thought to my brainwashing theory...wouldn't put it past the MSM and TPTB to push the propaganda button towards a twisted religion. Come, little sheep, it's good to die because you go directly to heaven...now drink your kool-aid and lay down. The Rapture! The Rapture! Watch everyone burn. You sick fucks (not all...). Now you pissed me off and I lost it. I never feel this way buit I was asking questions thinking I was on a thread that was about reality. It's late...fuck it, I'm going to bed.
 Quoting: thepatrioticgirl


Just a few points thepatriotgirl...

1. It's obvious you've not read my post (or only selectively)...because I thought I made it clear that there are many scriptures (within the context of the "ET" discussion here) that indeed DO (either admonish or command) Christians to prep...physically.

2. Part of the problem, is that you've described yourself as "Lutheran"...instead of a follower of your Creator - namely, a Christ follower or a Christian. Do you know that "denominations" are man-made "divisions" and described by the Apostle Paul as "heresies".

3. As far as ""stfu" and go read the Bible"...first: bless you!. Next, I'd suggest you do exactly that, and you'd see exactly as I've outlined in my post to be so.

4. And no...I don't drink Kool-Aid.

5. You'd be surprised also at (the actual power - in the physical manifested) of God in your life, (when He's in your life)...when you follow Him - not a "religion" or a "denomination". You can have that friend! (Just ask Him. Turn from your sin/anger and then...you must believe on Him: Jesus the Christ...the Creator of the heavens and the earth; then not let go - because He will test the sincerity of your profession, should you decide.)

Praise God





GLP