For christians:The scriptural PROOF that the Rapture is AFTER the tribulation. NO "Basis" here..PROOF!

The first harvest (often referred to as the rapture) does happen after the great tribulation. The issue is people have no idea the great tribulation started in the first century and has continued till now.

We are right before the sixth seal, as far as I can tell.

2 events? Say who? Pauline theologians?

1. Notice that Paul's Verses 16 & 17 are pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions.


1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all nopes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

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2. Then notice how Paul's verses 15 & 17 match....


1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

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Teletubbies

Settled

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This happens before the Rapture.
We'ere not even close to it happening.

2 Thessalonians 2

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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The Souls under the altar in Revelation 6. It seems fairly obvious that these folks do NOT have their 'resurrected bodies' that are given at the Rapture.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

If you assume the bible actually true then stop. An unproven book of claims is not proof of anything. Its not an authority to be used as confirmation of anything. However if you choose to accept the claims, then it doesn't need to be proven,you already believe. No supernatural claim has ever been proven and thats the only important claim the bible contains.

God isn't the True God and the Bible isn't accurate?

Answer 3 questions.

1. How is it that ONLY the Bible has ALL the details that were needed to find Noah's Ark? Turkey - Arabs mind you - made the site a National Park.

Genesis 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

Thread: Noah - The Ark and the Flood - Evidence Proof Bible History

2. How is it that there are 5 sites in Israel (all mentioned in the Bible) that havve 'balls of sulfur' (brimstone) that are at least 90% pure - and nothing even close exists anywhere else on the planet?

Deuteronomy 29:23 And that the whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, nor any grass groweth therein, like the overthrow of Sodom, and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim, which the LORD overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:

Thread: Sodom Gomorrah Admah - Video & Photographic Evidence of Biblical Destruction Brimstone

3. How is it that evidence of the Exodus (from the Bible) exists in Saudi Arabia, just where Paul said Mt.Sinai existed - just as the Bible states?

Galatians 4:24-25 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Thread: Updated - New Videos / Evidence of the Biblical Exodus in Saudi Arabia - Hebrews / Mt Sinai More

No, cultists like you.

Your 'jesus' is really not Jesus at all.

Says who?

Your proof is.....?

NOTHING

For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it.

Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology

Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy

Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study

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You are so copiously confused and adrift in error...

Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study

Nat Geo or Disc channel showed all the jillions of sulfur balls in the Dead Sea...vitrified stone is what the entire basin is made of....proof of the flood is in evolution facts.com or org....don't recall which....hint? polonium 218!!....immoral, heathen enemies of GOD always lie about biblical topics...DARWIN. CHARLES DAWSON. ERNST HAENKEL (WHO FABRICATED THE FAKE ARCHEOPTERYXS,(ALL) PILTDOWN MAN (DAWSON AND OTHERS)....THEY WOULD COUNSEL YOU WAS THEIR MOUTH NOT AFLAME.W/O GRACE FROM GOD...I WOULDN'T TRADE YOUR FUTURE FOR A BUCKET OF FROZEN PISS....

The evolution theory,true or not,neither supports god theory or rejects it. It is the attempt to explain the diversity of life not its orgins. Some very large sulfur deposits are found in Texas,using your special logic...why? You fear science because it has debunked so many gods. It threatens yours views then you accept what science you think supports your view. Odd.

You would think that if what you are saying is true then it should be found easily...NOPE.

"Dead Sea" "balls of sulfur" "National Geographic"

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Rapture tards

This is who they are

All satanists

After the Tribulation,

Jesus comes here,

Right?

So.. a soul must leave heaven and raptured to go through hell and get to another heaven?.





So I don’t have to keep the Ten Commandments in order to get to heaven.

There is no such thing as “getting to heaven.” There is only a knowing that you are already there. There is an accepting, an understanding, not a working for or a striving. You cannot go to where you already are. To do that, you would have to leave where you are, and that would defeat the whole purpose of the journey. The irony is that most people think they have to leave where they are to get to where they want to be. And so they leave heaven in order to get to heaven—and go through hell. Enlightenment is understanding that there is nowhere to go, nothing to do, and nobody you have to be except exactly who you’re being right now. You are on a journey to nowhere. Heaven—as you call it—is nowhere. Let’s just put some space between the w and the h in that word and you’ll see that heaven is now. . .here.

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Why do you constantly shit only on believers looking for Jesus Christ?

Why are you soulless beast of the earth with seven batshit crazy unclean spirits partying inside constantly hissing and muttering all the figgin time without any common sense whatsoever?.



"Little children, yet a little while I [Elijah] am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the [ZWO & soulless beasts of the earth] J..s, Whither I go, ye cannot come [into the kingdom of God with me];" - John 13:33

I don't. I just see no difference between them and ghost chasers, alien abduction claims or any other god claims. I realize they absolutely believe their holy book claims and I don't think they " shit on" those who decline. However they do threatened eternal punishment if I do. Threats to enforce belief is poor ar best. Indicates a false claim most likely. Imagine a gal who threatened you if you didn't love her. Thats is the foundation of many religions. Odd argument.

Marry me or i skin you alive

If a woman said that she would be locked up

But its ok for God to say “worship me or i torture you forever”?

And in the next breath says

“My mercies are new every morning”

And

“Love never fails”

And

“His mercy endures forever”

What a fucking joke.

in the bible.... a snake... AND a donkey are able to speak to humans in human language

true story

so the bible is like a pixar movie where animals can talk to people

This comment alone proves you are as lost as golf ball in the weeds, no love for the brethren you condemn yourself with your own tongue. I got news for you in the end ain’t none of us gonna have it all right and you sure don’t. My suggestion to you would be to grow a backbone and fight for your women and children who are being forced to submit to your oppressive government.

Whats really weird is Adam believed his wife when she said “here honey have a bite....that snakr there said its ok”

I mean

THINK

LOL