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China Preparing to Dump US Tresuries

 
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What is the FED paying China? If it is paying in dollars then China is no better off.
If it is paying in gold - where is the FED getting the gold?
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From Harvey Organ's report tonight:
"please feel free to bring in any of your associates to investigate the drop in reserves for the U.S, Germany, and France that is shown on the World Bank reserve table

[link to data.worldbank.org]

You might want to post the world bank link table on LeMet in case the world bank removes it from the public domain. Below is a table which converts the drops in reserves to drops in gold holdings. Based on the numbers, all of the U.S. and German gold, and most of the French gold is gone if it is assumed that SDR and currency reserves stayed the same from 2011 to 2012. Even if the SDR and currency reserves for these countries dropped to zero, the 2012 reserves indicate gold holdings dropped about 70%. -Bryant
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When, OP?
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What is the FED paying China? If it is paying in dollars then China is no better off.
If it is paying in gold - where is the FED getting the gold?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27586925


From Harvey Organ's report tonight:
"please feel free to bring in any of your associates to investigate the drop in reserves for the U.S, Germany, and France that is shown on the World Bank reserve table

[link to data.worldbank.org]

You might want to post the world bank link table on LeMet in case the world bank removes it from the public domain. Below is a table which converts the drops in reserves to drops in gold holdings. Based on the numbers, all of the U.S. and German gold, and most of the French gold is gone if it is assumed that SDR and currency reserves stayed the same from 2011 to 2012. Even if the SDR and currency reserves for these countries dropped to zero, the 2012 reserves indicate gold holdings dropped about 70%. -Bryant
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What is the FED paying China? If it is paying in dollars then China is no better off.
If it is paying in gold - where is the FED getting the gold?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27586925


From Harvey Organ's report tonight:
"please feel free to bring in any of your associates to investigate the drop in reserves for the U.S, Germany, and France that is shown on the World Bank reserve table

[link to data.worldbank.org]

You might want to post the world bank link table on LeMet in case the world bank removes it from the public domain. Below is a table which converts the drops in reserves to drops in gold holdings. Based on the numbers, all of the U.S. and German gold, and most of the French gold is gone if it is assumed that SDR and currency reserves stayed the same from 2011 to 2012. Even if the SDR and currency reserves for these countries dropped to zero, the 2012 reserves indicate gold holdings dropped about 70%. -Bryant
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Makes sense, thats why they don't want gold going to high, they have little physical and are worried it will replace the dollar.
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There is a global Jihad going on against america and all countries are involved in it... China, Russia, Saudi, Iran, their all in on it together...
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Ain't it comforting to know that the petro-dollar is backed by 5100 nuclear warheads? ...jes' sayin'.

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It would be an economic death sentence for China to dump US bonds. The retaliatory strike would be to slap un heard of massive tariffs on China which would collapse their economy within a weak.
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China is far more interested in Africa and India than the US at this point, as we are no longer a "growth market". 5 Years of "recovery and we are just plain tapped out... China knows this as well as any of our bankers.
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When, OP?
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"October Surprise?"... I'm figuring between 20 and 30 October, but there are always variables that makes answers "elastic"...

Watch for escalations in Syria/Egypt,Iran

Watch for any further escalation in the financial debacle that is the US Budget, Debt Ceiling, and 0bamacare debates...

Watch for any surprise financial reports or moves from Japan, China, or the EU

Any of these could be accelerator issues, otherwise we may not see the big event for months; but I think the PTB have their ducks in a row to go for a major league play at this time...

Last Edited by LT Prepper on 10/02/2013 11:21 PM
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This is deadly serious if true. Shit WILL hit the fan folks.
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G L O B A L Shit will hit the fan if this is true...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


Another dumb ass.

There is this little thing called the M.A.D card which means if China attempts to disrupt the status quo, its game over for them and the rest of the world as well. Ever hear of the "Solomon option" that Israel has? It's like that except financially, and globally. Canada is in. Mexico is in. Half of South America is in. All of Europe is in. 25% of Africa is in. 75% of Asia is in.

Nice try but youre off by years. The game ends in 7 years. Thats when the real shit starts flying.
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Uh, I believe it's the"Samson Option". You really should read your scriptures more closely. A lot of us ain't gonna be around in 7 years, so TODAY's flying shit will have to suffice.
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There is a global Jihad going on against america and all countries are involved in it... China, Russia, Saudi, Iran, their all in on it together...
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theyare making a terrible mistake.

We arenot the problem.

We arenot the parasite. We are only the anemic, blood-drained host of "Israel".

“Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as
reported on Kol Yisrael radio:
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
[link to us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com]
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Uh, I believe it's the"Samson Option". You really should read your scriptures more closely. A lot of us ain't gonna be around in 7 years, so TODAY's flying shit will have to suffice.
kim-jong-un-blin
 Quoting: Hugh M Eye


Correct - Samson sacrificed himself to destroy the Philistine temple, and kill thousands of his captors... It's in the book of Judges. His last prayer was that all the Philistines die with him.

I still think "nuclear enema" is a better description... remember, our money is crap, and suddenly we will be fresh out of it ;P
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When, OP?
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"October Surprise?"... I'm figuring between 20 and 30 October, but there are always variables that makes answers "elastic"...

Watch for escalations in Syria/Egypt,Iran

Watch for any further escalation in the financial debacle that is the US Budget, Debt Ceiling, and 0bamacare debates...

Watch for any surprise financial reports or moves from Japan, China, or the EU

Any of these could be accelerator issues, otherwise we may not see the big event for months; but I think the PTB have their ducks in a row to go for a major league play at this time...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


Thanks for the great 5* post!

I agree with your warnings for an October event. I think it's 'now or never' for the shithead elites to push their Endgame. The longer they delay the more opposition grows. It may turn out that the control freaks actually foster the new generation anarchists. How about the 'New World Disorder"?
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When, OP?
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"October Surprise?"... I'm figuring between 20 and 30 October, but there are always variables that makes answers "elastic"...

Watch for escalations in Syria/Egypt,Iran

Watch for any further escalation in the financial debacle that is the US Budget, Debt Ceiling, and 0bamacare debates...

Watch for any surprise financial reports or moves from Japan, China, or the EU

Any of these could be accelerator issues, otherwise we may not see the big event for months; but I think the PTB have their ducks in a row to go for a major league play at this time...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


I shudder to think how many are not expecting this at all and will get totally blindsided when it happens.
Take the red pill now...later it will come as a suppository.
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OP, if this happens as you mention in October, then what is your advice?
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There is a global Jihad going on against america and all countries are involved in it... China, Russia, Saudi, Iran, their all in on it together...
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You must be talking about the B.R.I.C.S. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa basically telling fiat petrodollar with an empty Fort Knox...checkmate!

Something else I believe many are unaware of are the "free trade zones" the Chinese occupy in the U.S., and how much land they've either bought in strategic areas of the country that are flat broke or were given for the debt owed to them.

Michigan, the Great Lakes state, is a prime example. A month ago the state auctioned off over 700 commercial, residential and vacant land properties-cash only. The state also has quite a few "free trade zones"...no one knows who the cash only buyers were. No need to ask. It's obvious. China needs water.

China also owns most of Toledo and another 6 digits of acreage in Utah outside Salt Lake City.

This is a very short list. They also opened their first bank in NYC.

China and the rest of the BRICS along with Saudi Arabia and Israel have bought the country's assets, and they did it with ease through traitorous CONgressman drunk on power by the Keynesian economics of the federal reserve.

Take a look at who recently bought the Justice Dept. (The Bond Building) in D.C. When you find it, you won't be shocked.

We've been sold out folks. The enemy is within and has been for quite some time. It even occupies the WH.

It's too bad Americans were too busy with gadgets, sports, video games, tell-lie-vision, and zero talent celebrity tards...because it all happened while Americans were deliberately distracted, divided and now conquered. They did it economically without firing a shot.

Does it even matter if they dump treasury's? They have the physical assets of real estate and gold.

When Americans realize in the near future, it's going to be "Mad Max" scenario on jet fueled steroids.
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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My God, how many times do we have to debunk this absurd claim>????
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Any new info? I am hearing nothing anywhere at all re this.
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Any new info? I am hearing nothing anywhere at all re this.
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Howaboutthis
********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please*******
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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My God, how many times do we have to debunk this absurd claim>????
 Quoting: No More Lies


[link to www.forbes.com]
Article suggests otherwise dude~

China Is 175.6% Dependent on the U.S.
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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My God, how many times do we have to debunk this absurd claim>????
 Quoting: No More Lies


[link to www.forbes.com]
Article suggests otherwise dude~

China Is 175.6% Dependent on the U.S.
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Forbes?

cruise NOt likely to hear anything other than propaganda there..

[link to www.alt-market.com]
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10/05/2013 11:12 AM
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It would be an economic death sentence for China to dump US bonds. The retaliatory strike would be to slap un heard of massive tariffs on China which would collapse their economy within a weak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47783950


those tarrifs would have to be obeyed, the rest of the world will keep trading with china, the rest of the world cares less for the $ than the USA does, obviously.

the only cost to china would be that it would end up burning alot of wealth held in US bonds and securities, but it is my belief that they will do this just like a sacrificial move in chess.
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If they crash America, they crash themselves, because the Chinese economy is entirely dependent upon its exports to America.
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My God, how many times do we have to debunk this absurd claim>????
 Quoting: No More Lies


I know right, when you actually look at it it seems china is purposely collecting $ not to get rich, but to hold uncle sams balls in a sling.

it's very much chinas ethos, work like fuck for some future gain.

as opposed to the wests which is take the credit first and then work like fuck to pay of the debt from the past.

i wonder which philosophy will eventually rule the planet, probably nukes will be fired to find out?
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forbes lol. i see you didnt also read chinas perspective for a balanced opinion. you go girl!
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forbes lol. i see you didnt also read chinas perspective for a balanced opinion. you go girl!
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You guys didn't read the article i posted.
Post your chinese article saying otherwise or move on
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Any new info? I am hearing nothing anywhere at all re this.
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:Howaboutthis:
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OP disappeared...not just from this thread, either.

maybe the Gestapo got him?
Or maybe the mods baned him for too much truth?

Enquiring minds want to know...





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