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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47531039 United States 10/04/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
mehitable User ID: 27906814 United States 10/04/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You could - anyone here - consult a lawyer, but I might sign if I felt I needed lifesaving treatment as the OP obviously does, BUT I would add wording that I was signing under duress and did not approve of my records being sent to the Federal government and was only signing to get urgent medical treatment. And then get a copy of what you sign. I don't think that a document that forces you to sign away rights at the price of LIFE SAVING TREATMENTS should be held to be legal. Obviously we all need to start moving away as much as possible from the whole medical system if this is the kind of monitoring we can expect. Also, Obama care needs to be REPEALED - not just defunded - consider that when you vote for your reps next time - this needs to get on a Congressional agenda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44864212 United States 10/04/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It just started today I believe It has something to do with Obamacare and also the flu shots I went there for a steroid shot for my allergies she said that if I didnt sign the paper I would not be able to get my shot so I signed i think its crap that we are forced to share our personal medical info with insurance agencies so they can screw me on my insurance because I suffer allergies and get shots every 3 month Quoting: KITKAT123 I believe they are monitoring us with this form and its sad that I felt safe in Texas I saw somewhere (can't remember where) that with Obamacare you have to answer questions about your sex life? Have any of you heard that? If so, that is a creepy requirement. |
Useless Cookie Eater
User ID: 29696048 United States 10/04/2013 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched an older man he looked very wealthy and he had insurance he refused to sign the paper and they refused treatment and he left the office steaming mad Quoting: KITKAT123 Obamacare in progress. They want ALL your personal information and control of you...and your health. Do as they say...or you get nothing and will be left for dead.. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 10/04/2013 05:30 PM |
KITKAT123
(OP) User ID: 25827979 United States 10/04/2013 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was a form consisting of last name first then first name then address then phone number then a paragraph about they have the right to share your shot records with certain agencys then a place to sign below nothing else was on the form it did say you can opt out at a later date KITKAT123 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29312913 United States 10/04/2013 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Took my son to the dr's this week. I was asked on a form if we had guns in the house. The nurse called it the "EPIC system" and it was a two page sheet, of very personal questions. Haven't received the form that will go to DHS....but, I'm telling you, after this dr appt, I decided that it's time to switch over to a Naturopath. I'm angry about the dr's who are hired to be data miners for the Gov. |
Useless Cookie Eater
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29312913 United States 10/04/2013 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was a form consisting of Quoting: KITKAT123 last name first then first name then address then phone number then a paragraph about they have the right to share your shot records with certain agencys then a place to sign below nothing else was on the form it did say you can opt out at a later date Such BS...I cannot believe we are living in this nightmare. My Gawd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47818094 Lithuania 10/04/2013 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was a form consisting of Quoting: KITKAT123 last name first then first name then address then phone number then a paragraph about they have the right to share your shot records with certain agencys then a place to sign below nothing else was on the form it did say you can opt out at a later date They are testing who is naive and gullible enough to sign it. You are never forced to sign your rights away for medical care. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40695078 United States 10/04/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It just started today I believe It has something to do with Obamacare and also the flu shots I went there for a steroid shot for my allergies she said that if I didnt sign the paper I would not be able to get my shot so I signed i think its crap that we are forced to share our personal medical info with insurance agencies so they can screw me on my insurance because I suffer allergies and get shots every 3 month Quoting: KITKAT123 I believe they are monitoring us with this form and its sad that I felt safe in Texas I saw somewhere (can't remember where) that with Obamacare you have to answer questions about your sex life? Have any of you heard that? If so, that is a creepy requirement. Got an x-ray when I was 14? I was asked when my last period was and if I had sex. But it was just in case I'm pregnant and not to harm the baby. It was still shocking and made me uncomfy. But also wouldn't obamacare deal with going to get checked for STDs etc? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 47870768 United States 10/04/2013 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did when im suffering with a blocked tube in my ear from allergies that are deadly to me its ragweed season In Texas you try to live here during ragweed I was hospitalized last year unable to breath I also have to use a ventilator at home from it I suffer muscular dystrophy so yes I did sign and no Im not a sheep I know whats up Quoting: KITKAT123 The only thing different I have had to sign lately is a form allowing any office I see to pull the record from the pharmacy I use to see what prescriptions I am filling.I have signed a form 3 different places within the last month.They also informed me they can refuse treatment if you do allow them to get the info. Like you I have conditions that require me to see a doctor on a regular basics.Its easy to say dont sign if you have no medical problems. |
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mehitable User ID: 27906814 United States 10/04/2013 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder why they are giving them free my doctors had a big letter saying 40 dollars a shot with private pay Quoting: KITKAT123 Lesson One: the government doesn't do anything for YOUR benefit. they are giving out these shots to kill people and make it look like they died from natural causes. Not everyone will get sick and die from flu/pneumonia/shingles or whatever shots, but enough elderly or immune compromised people WILL over time and it will look like "natural" causes....they won't connect it to the flu shots. They get rid of the people they consider "useless eaters" and then they don't have to pay out all the Social Security and Disability monies they don't have anyway. it really IS that simple. don't ever get any free shots, and I wouldn't get any other shots the medical establishment/government "recommends". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47870768 United States 10/04/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Find a new doctor. I would not go to anyone that requires my personal info gets sent to the government. My health care is none of their business. I would think twice about any doc that uses electronic records. That all ends up in government computers. Don't go to any doctor you don't trust. Obama-care says they can inject a chip in you with or without your permission, or knowledge. That means they can chip you without even telling you they have done it. Ask your doctor straight to his/her face and see if they answer right away or if they try not to answer, then make up your own mind. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy All the doctors in my area use electronic records.It ill be required soon from what I understand.Some places just havent updated yet. With the new rules healthcare is now their business or you ill get none. |
goldielucks
User ID: 33718208 United States 10/04/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its Texas state law the form states that I give permission for my doctors to release shot records to DHS and the health department and also insurance companies of any shots I get If i refuse to sign it I dont get any shots from them they said its the law now and all doctors and clinics are forced to get a form signed on every patient they said it was my choice but if I didnt sign they could refuse treatment I watched may people very angry about this form Quoting: KITKAT123 They were specifically wanting to know about flu shots the nurse said to keep track of whos been vaccinated That's so they know who they've infected. That is extremely disturbing! And not far fetched either. Or perhaps to know who they've marked and who isn't...maybe both! |
Useless Cookie Eater
User ID: 29696048 United States 10/04/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder why they are giving them free my doctors had a big letter saying 40 dollars a shot with private pay Quoting: KITKAT123 Lesson One: the government doesn't do anything for YOUR benefit. they are giving out these shots to kill people and make it look like they died from natural causes. Not everyone will get sick and die from flu/pneumonia/shingles or whatever shots, but enough elderly or immune compromised people WILL over time and it will look like "natural" causes....they won't connect it to the flu shots. They get rid of the people they consider "useless eaters" and then they don't have to pay out all the Social Security and Disability monies they don't have anyway. it really IS that simple. don't ever get any free shots, and I wouldn't get any other shots the medical establishment/government "recommends". Sarah Palin warned you sheep about this...as she does here once again. ...but you sheep all are in denial like mental case Beckel. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 10/04/2013 05:59 PM |
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User ID: 15129444 United States 10/04/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its Texas state law the form states that I give permission for my doctors to release shot records to DHS and the health department and also insurance companies of any shots I get If i refuse to sign it I dont get any shots from them they said its the law now and all doctors and clinics are forced to get a form signed on every patient they said it was my choice but if I didnt sign they could refuse treatment I watched may people very angry about this form Quoting: KITKAT123 They were specifically wanting to know about flu shots the nurse said to keep track of whos been vaccinated im really worried about this flu shot. My wife went in and they told her she was super high risk and just HAD to have the flu shot. She took it. I don't remember any form though. I would not take that for anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36099407 United States 10/04/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its Texas state law the form states that I give permission for my doctors to release shot records to DHS and the health department and also insurance companies of any shots I get If i refuse to sign it I dont get any shots from them they said its the law now and all doctors and clinics are forced to get a form signed on every patient they said it was my choice but if I didnt sign they could refuse treatment I watched may people very angry about this form Quoting: KITKAT123 They were specifically wanting to know about flu shots the nurse said to keep track of whos been vaccinated That's so they know who they've infected. Or so they know who's the sheep that will do their bidding and get their shots like good little boys and girls, so they can infect the ones who don't get the shots, the stinking infidels. |
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ScaredStiff User ID: 27190115 United States 10/04/2013 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't know 10% of the problem. Go do a search for "Meaningful Use" and "HL7" It's the way that every aspect of your personal behavior is being discovered and stored in federal databases. And it's enforced with fines and penalties for medical professionals who do not comply with the information gathering. You think they've got you covered with email and texting? Think of what they will "discover" by looking at your entire families health history. Own guns? Health issue. Have kids? Health issues. Gee how did you cut that finger? Fed database. |
katballoo
User ID: 40991109 Canada 10/04/2013 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its Texas state law the form states that I give permission for my doctors to release shot records to DHS and the health department and also insurance companies of any shots I get If i refuse to sign it I dont get any shots from them they said its the law now and all doctors and clinics are forced to get a form signed on every patient they said it was my choice but if I didnt sign they could refuse treatment I watched may people very angry about this form Quoting: KITKAT123 They were specifically wanting to know about flu shots the nurse said to keep track of whos been vaccinated That's so they know who they've infected. It's also so they will know who is going to be a dissident and who is not. Those who refuse, they will deal with later. |
katballoo
User ID: 40991109 Canada 10/04/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You weren't forced. The only way they can force you is to physically make you sign the form. You had a choice to sign or not. The choices weren't great, but you still had a choice. My choice would have been to tell them to take a flying leap. People need to start standing up. |
katballoo
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