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What is a "Honeypot"? And Why Not to Fall for Them!

 
goodmockingbird  (OP)

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10/08/2013 01:12 PM
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So explain to me, you have a person that wants to murder people and you OP are telling them to not show who they are and be smarter and remain stealthy and murder the "infidel" in other ways?

This is what you are doing OP?
And the rest of you agree?

What's this muslim murder central?
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I used the example of what was almost certainly a honeypot twitter account many of us here were following during the Nairobi Shopping Mall Massacre. Many GLPers are likely to recall it.

A "good" (ethical, moral) honeypot operation serves to draw in people who are already dangerous, and who are actually plotting or commiting harm to others. A potential target is given endless opportunities to back out of actually committing a crime, and thus goes on his way unharmed. Only the truly dangerous are caught, cornered, and arrested.

A greedy, immoral, misused honeypot operation preys upon the lonely, the emotional, the outcast who is just looking for fellowship, to be a part of something... and then further lures and guides him into stating or doing things he would have never considered stating or doing had he not been lured into it.

Right now many Americans are angry, emotional, and fearful.

Many GLPers are vulnerable to being drawn into such things.

Whether we like or dislike the whole social engineering concept of internet forum honeypot operations, they are very real. People make money off of them.

If someone is already dangerous -- actively plotting harm to others -- I for one would be happy for him to get caught up in an ethically operated honeypot.

On the other hand, if someone is simply frustrated, lonely, fearful, and angry right now, I would not want him to get caught up in, and lured, and coerced, and guided into something terrible that he never would have dreamed of committing on his own.
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10/08/2013 01:22 PM
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All you need know is those that see you as their property will do whatever it takes to maximize their profits from you and if that means sending you to a slaughterhouse then so be it.
If you dont think thats whats in play now you should be safe as you are to stupid to be any threat.
In nature the stupid die first.

Those looking for any comfortable solution will be disappointed since govt has legitimized your extermination and delegitimized any resistance or functional alternative..
In the end, no matter how peaceful and profitable it may once have been it always is sent for slaughter
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10/08/2013 01:29 PM
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A "honeypot" is a trap.

A "honeypot" is a sort of media enticement that is intended to incite susceptible individuals to incriminate themselves.

We saw a great example with the Nairobi Mall Massacre twitter feed that was so full of lurid tweets about jihadi activities. Susceptible, outcast loner sorts could get caught up in the fever pitch to be part of something dramatic and exciting, to join a movement, and they could post things like "Yes, I will join you Brothers, and I will slay the infidels."

Presto! Aspiring Jihadi gets to meet new friends, and gets invited into meetings, gets to meet somebody's uncle fresh back from the 'training camp'. He would be schooled on how to assemble dangerous, uh, things... and even get a free ride to the place to, uh, make the thing do something destructive.

*'Hey, this thing's not working'

* Handcuffs

Right now here on GLP we are seeing a whole lot of foreign (and domestic) anonymous coward threads that are worded in such a way as to lure upset readers into incriminating themselves by posting intentions of violence.

"When are you Americans going to do something..." is a typical sort of thread title.

DON'T FALL for IT!!!

The site owner and the moderators here have ZERO tolerance for posts either inciting others to violence, or threatening violence.

Plus YOU as the reader do not want the potential headaches that could come your way if you were foolish enough to fall into such a trap.

As you can see from the example about "When are you going to do something...", the threads titles and opening posts do not technically threaten violence. They lead and encourage you to post threats of violence.

Practice discernment, and do not hesitate to hit the 'report abusive post button'. By doing so, you're not censoring or banning anyone. You're just asking the mods to take a look at something.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


clappa

Typical Fed tactics. This site is trolling ground for all kinds. Be careful and don't do or say anything stupid.
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10/08/2013 01:50 PM
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A "honeypot" is a trap.

A "honeypot" is a sort of media enticement that is intended to incite susceptible individuals to incriminate themselves.

We saw a great example with the Nairobi Mall Massacre twitter feed that was so full of lurid tweets about jihadi activities. Susceptible, outcast loner sorts could get caught up in the fever pitch to be part of something dramatic and exciting, to join a movement, and they could post things like "Yes, I will join you Brothers, and I will slay the infidels."

Presto! Aspiring Jihadi gets to meet new friends, and gets invited into meetings, gets to meet somebody's uncle fresh back from the 'training camp'. He would be schooled on how to assemble dangerous, uh, things... and even get a free ride to the place to, uh, make the thing do something destructive.

*'Hey, this thing's not working'

* Handcuffs

Right now here on GLP we are seeing a whole lot of foreign (and domestic) anonymous coward threads that are worded in such a way as to lure upset readers into incriminating themselves by posting intentions of violence.

"When are you Americans going to do something..." is a typical sort of thread title.

DON'T FALL for IT!!!

The site owner and the moderators here have ZERO tolerance for posts either inciting others to violence, or threatening violence.

Plus YOU as the reader do not want the potential headaches that could come your way if you were foolish enough to fall into such a trap.

As you can see from the example about "When are you going to do something...", the threads titles and opening posts do not technically threaten violence. They lead and encourage you to post threats of violence.

Practice discernment, and do not hesitate to hit the 'report abusive post button'. By doing so, you're not censoring or banning anyone. You're just asking the mods to take a look at something.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Well said, I always liked your posts. Although I have pointed out things about the American Government before, but I never ever said anything to incite violence, I don't support that, and I even said yesterday in a couple of threads that you guys must stay peaceful. So this is good that you say that. I see this sort of thing all the time here too where they try to incite youth on social media to become violent or extreme, because some want to start civil war or have escalations. Which in the end, just destroys your cause and plays into their hands.

Good luck Americans!
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10/08/2013 01:54 PM
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Or do and say completely stupid idiotic things.

Wild Hogs. Why are there wild hogs? They are destructive and a nuisance. You see, hogs are pretty smart really. They learn to adapt. Also, there are so many that you can't kill them all. If our planet continues to evolve, the only thing that will stop the growing population of wild hogs is the availability of food. They can forage though and are quite good at using any opportunity for an easy meal.

They can't get all of them no matter how hard they try.
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Or do and say completely stupid idiotic things.

Wild Hogs. Why are there wild hogs? They are destructive and a nuisance. You see, hogs are pretty smart really. They learn to adapt. Also, there are so many that you can't kill them all. If our planet continues to evolve, the only thing that will stop the growing population of wild hogs is the availability of food. They can forage though and are quite good at using any opportunity for an easy meal.

They can't get all of them no matter how hard they try.
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The objective wouldn't be to get them all. The objective would be to silence them and keep them from spreading by nabbing a few of the slower ones and making an example of them.

Don't be one of those examples is all the OP is saying. Or, keep on doing it and see for yourself.
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Or do and say completely stupid idiotic things.

Wild Hogs. Why are there wild hogs? They are destructive and a nuisance. You see, hogs are pretty smart really. They learn to adapt. Also, there are so many that you can't kill them all. If our planet continues to evolve, the only thing that will stop the growing population of wild hogs is the availability of food. They can forage though and are quite good at using any opportunity for an easy meal.

They can't get all of them no matter how hard they try.
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The objective wouldn't be to get them all. The objective would be to silence them and keep them from spreading by nabbing a few of the slower ones and making an example of them.

Don't be one of those examples is all the OP is saying. Or, keep on doing it and see for yourself.
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Or overload them with possibilities. Fleas on a dog my man!
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10/08/2013 02:09 PM
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Excellent post, my friend :) Most excellent.
Eireann~

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20
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Or do and say completely stupid idiotic things.

Wild Hogs. Why are there wild hogs? They are destructive and a nuisance. You see, hogs are pretty smart really. They learn to adapt. Also, there are so many that you can't kill them all. If our planet continues to evolve, the only thing that will stop the growing population of wild hogs is the availability of food. They can forage though and are quite good at using any opportunity for an easy meal.

They can't get all of them no matter how hard they try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46592500


The objective wouldn't be to get them all. The objective would be to silence them and keep them from spreading by nabbing a few of the slower ones and making an example of them.

Don't be one of those examples is all the OP is saying. Or, keep on doing it and see for yourself.
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Or overload them with possibilities. Fleas on a dog my man!
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Your post is an example of the type of thing OP is warning against.
goodmockingbird  (OP)

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10/08/2013 02:53 PM
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This is not just about alphabet agencies creating honeypots -- which are by and large ethically operated -- but the whole freelance business of unscrupulous people making money off of honeypots and then "selling" the information and connections.

Anyone who is curious -- or who just wants an eye opener -- should read this book:

[link to www.amazon.com]

The book is about Muslims entrapping other Muslims into incriminating themselves.

Then the honeypot operator moves up to become a "paid informant".
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10/08/2013 04:54 PM
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This is not just about alphabet agencies creating honeypots -- which are by and large ethically operated -- but the whole freelance business of unscrupulous people making money off of honeypots and then "selling" the information and connections.

Anyone who is curious -- or who just wants an eye opener -- should read this book:

[link to www.amazon.com]

The book is about Muslims entrapping other Muslims into incriminating themselves.

Then the honeypot operator moves up to become a "paid informant".
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Excellent!

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If only you knew how important this post is and that you are just scratching the surface of what you think you've uncovered. But good job.





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