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When times get tough and you want to know who to trust, trust the poor, the hard working, the humble, the outcasts, the ugly.

 
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DON'T BE SO SURE!
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I wondered how long it would take for the haters to show up...
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OP, it is not hate it is called realism and life experience. I know would be nice and easy for our brains to just apply a simple formula and voila... to know which people you can rely on, but usually it is not so simple. The life is not only black and white, there are innumerable nuances of grey.

So, there are poor people because of their bad habits and not because somebody oppressed them. Or there are uneducated people, who could be also bad. Or there are poor persons that could sell even their mother for a buck. So you cannot draw conclusions so quickly!

This you would know, OP-ie if you would have been around for longer, or if have been, at least to open your eyes!

These are my 2cents and not hating, I'm trying to expand your horizons..
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Perhaps in your selective reasoning you forgot a few.

One considers some that paper nor gold has any value to.

I find paper useful at times for bodily functions yet yearn for the mops of rome when trees were not felled for ones arse. Gold I simply see no need for than to blind another with, it has its magic indeed, yet of no use to me.

I have met many "educated people" as you call them that could neither read nor write in any comprehensible manor or language so of what value was such a education, none One assumes.

Like most things, this "trust" one must find within ones self to see it in another. Perhaps this is the lacking bit.
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They can be poor but can turn on you and backstab you any time.

It's not that simple.

All the examples you give are different things and it's not accurate at all.

Why do you put trust and the poor in the same category? To most it's so simple to categorize. They categorize everything.

To the most I'm talking about, anger and hate is also evil. Remember that idiotic two wolves comparison?....

The world of dualities... the world of dualities...

Obviously you know nothing about honesty, and why anyone become an outcast.
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Thank you for the thread OP!

I believe your analysis here is right on.

For the people trying to argue.....discernment is the answer. If you learn how, you can watch people, listen to them and look into their eyes and discern who they truly are inside.

Thank you again for the reminder OP! God Bless you and your family in the times to come!

:luvuthismuch:

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Exactly! When you learn to respect all people, you can look into their eyes and know what kind of person you are dealing with.

I agree!
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These are God's true "Chosen People". Most work very hard, just scape by trying to make a living and never hurt anyone.

They are the forgotten, the unpopular, the outcasts, the ugly or the old.

They don't promote themselves. They don't brag. They don't talk much and when they do it is very humble and low key.

These people don't cheat others, have honor and respect their peers.

They may be a little dirty at times, may have a few teeth missing, but are as honest as the day is long. These are God's true Chosen People.

These are my heroes...
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Actually, I do not agree with this observation at all.
It's just a simple minded stereotype. In fact, I think it's far less likely to have any validity than other stereotypes.

I have found that very often ugly people have been warped by their ugliness and the obvious response they have gotten from others all of the their lives. Ugly people are often hostile and envious.

Poor people, at least in the past maybe not so much now, are poor for a reason. Many are not mentally competent, or have a poor work ethic. Most of them abuse substances. Many are criminals. Many abuse their spouses and children and have other sociopathic tendencies.

If you actually studied Sociology, you would learn that the most honest, reliable, hard working, upright and moral, belong to the middle class.

At either end of the class stucture, the rich and the poor, you will find that there is a general belief that the rules do not apply to them.

I personally believe that the people you are glorifying used to belong to what used to be called "working class." They were more at the bottom end of the Middle Class, but they definitely had Middle Class values.

They are pretty much extinct. They have all fallen into the Lower Class and succumbed to Lower Class "values."

I recently heard that America is considered to be the trailer park of the world. And so it is.
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Did it not occur to anyone that this post is here soley as a propaganda tool. The people in power want you to completely identify with the poor is good ethos because you are poor and you're going to get poorer. They don't want a pissed off poor. They want a happy, complacent poor who see themselves as morally superior.

Ridiculous.

Sadly, the Pope is part of it.
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These are God's true "Chosen People". Most work very hard, just scape by trying to make a living and never hurt anyone.

They are the forgotten, the unpopular, the outcasts, the ugly or the old.

They don't promote themselves. They don't brag. They don't talk much and when they do it is very humble and low key.

These people don't cheat others, have honor and respect their peers.

They may be a little dirty at times, may have a few teeth missing, but are as honest as the day is long. These are God's true Chosen People.

These are my heroes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38874043


Actually, I do not agree with this observation at all.
It's just a simple minded stereotype. In fact, I think it's far less likely to have any validity than other stereotypes.

I have found that very often ugly people have been warped by their ugliness and the obvious response they have gotten from others all of the their lives. Ugly people are often hostile and envious.

Poor people, at least in the past maybe not so much now, are poor for a reason. Many are not mentally competent, or have a poor work ethic. Most of them abuse substances. Many are criminals. Many abuse their spouses and children and have other sociopathic tendencies.

If you actually studied Sociology, you would learn that the most honest, reliable, hard working, upright and moral, belong to the middle class.

At either end of the class stucture, the rich and the poor, you will find that there is a general belief that the rules do not apply to them.

I personally believe that the people you are glorifying used to belong to what used to be called "working class." They were more at the bottom end of the Middle Class, but they definitely had Middle Class values.

They are pretty much extinct. They have all fallen into the Lower Class and succumbed to Lower Class "values."

I recently heard that America is considered to be the trailer park of the world. And so it is.
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Did it not occur to anyone that this post is here soley as a propaganda tool. The people in power want you to completely identify with the poor is good ethos because you are poor and you're going to get poorer. They don't want a pissed off poor. They want a happy, complacent poor who see themselves as morally superior.

Ridiculous.

Sadly, the Pope is part of it.
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The working class of yesteryear were not the middle class of today. They were militant, united, and had common goals and values. Marx studied them, and his observations were so terrifying correct that TBTB got rid of them in NAmerica and Europe. If the solidarity is to return, the industrial base will have to return...
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PEOPLE, PLEASE DON'T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH!!!

Through education (or lack thereof), through alimentation, through the social and moral "values" that are being promoted (just a name recently: miley cyrus), through their mainstream media that is a propaganda machine, through the chemtrails and fluridated water, etc, TPTB managed to strip away from most of the people, nowadays any "residue" of kindness, honesty, bravery, courage, astuteness, morality, decency, etc.

The contributor who wrote that they have to get rid of the good and decent working class of ending 1800 and beginning 1900, he is 100% right.

So, right now you have a bunch of ........ (anyone can fill in the dots!) regardless of their bank account or education or whatever categorization you want to bring in.

It is far better for someone these days, to stay the hack away from all the peoples, even friends and mostly - family!!!! in any way shape or form, regardless they are perceiving as good, or trustworthy, etc.

Even the most docile and loving dog, that you are having for years if bitten by a wasp because of the pain, it maybe thinking you did something bad to him and bite you, in such way, even by your poor judgement standard, a "good" person (you think) could be nasty and turn against you when you expecting less... stab in the back? Yes stab you in the back!

Can you rely on you and your judgement? Nope, I don't think so! Base yourself on God teaching, instead!

So, this is my current view and until God will not make a cleanse, it is not safe for "you kids to go outside and play with other kids"!

Now, I expect you to throw to me with rotten eggs and tomatoes, but you know deep down that I have right. And if you don't, then I'm afraid that you may learn, on your skin, these days...
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These are God's true "Chosen People". Most work very hard, just scape by trying to make a living and never hurt anyone.

They are the forgotten, the unpopular, the outcasts, the ugly or the old.

They don't promote themselves. They don't brag. They don't talk much and when they do it is very humble and low key.

These people don't cheat others, have honor and respect their peers.

They may be a little dirty at times, may have a few teeth missing, but are as honest as the day is long. These are God's true Chosen People.

These are my heroes...
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clappa

BRAVO OP.
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This thread certainly affected people very strongly. It made many quite angry. Why? Because it turns everything that they have been taught on it's head. Being "educated", working for corporate America, believing in the idea of "survival of the fittest", being ambitious, greedy and wealthy was supposed to be the answer. This was supposed to make us prosperous, more advanced and happy.

Now we see that it leads to quite the opposite. It led to the destruction of the family, unlimited destruction of the planet, war and a life so sick that it is becoming almost unliveable.

I said many, many times that to generalize all poor people as being good and all wealthy people as being bad was not the purpose of the thread. The purpose was to begin to look at people for who and what they really are. Not to judge them by the house they live in or the clothes that they wear. To look beyond the mere physical and look at the heart.

But many cannot do that. They don't know what that even means to "look into someone's heart". It seems foolish and naive to them. It seems like silly and childish talk.

In closing I will tell you this, the world as we know it is about to change. It will become a place unlike any now living has ever seen. Not good or bad, just much different.

Those that can see their brothers and sisters as just human beings and not less than another based on their income, will have a much easier time coping with this change.

More many it will be VERY frightening, but for others it will feel as a natural transition and not scary at all.

Those with hate in their hearts will have a hard time indeed...

Peace
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No the NWO will get rid of these weak people

Don't work hard, work smart

Big difference
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Are you afraid of what is happening to America and even the world? Why? Because you may lose your home, your job, your retirement, your investments, even your food?

Consider this for just a moment. What if you never had any of those things? What if you have only been concerned about where you will sleep tonight or whether you will eat tonight?

For those without all of those assets, this coming change will not be such a big deal at all. It will hardly even be noticed.

Maybe that is why I referred to the poor, the hungry, the unseen as God's Chosen People.

Because they will not suffer as the wealthy will during this amazing change. They will be protected from fear and hate. because they have done their suffering already.

Few will understand what I have said in this thread, but a small few will. This is a "nudge", a reminder to remember who and what you really are.

Peace
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No the NWO will get rid of these weak people

Don't work hard, work smart

Big difference
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I feel sorry for you.
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Did it not occur to anyone that this post is here soley as a propaganda tool.
The people in power want you to completely identify with the poor is good ethos because you are poor and you're going to get poorer. They don't want a pissed off poor. They want a happy, complacent poor who see themselves as morally superior.

Ridiculous.

Sadly, the Pope is part of it.
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Well, I wrote this thread and I don't know the Pope. I don't know the New World Order leaders.

It is easy to call anything that you don't agree with or understand as "propaganda". I have a feeling that we reject much that we don't like or that we don't want to believe as lies from the NWO.

But, believe what you like.
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No the NWO will get rid of these weak people

Don't work hard, work smart

Big difference
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I feel sorry for you.
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good looking = good genes

good genes = should have kids, worth investment

just the fact that someone might feel bad for not looking good is considered a genetic weakness to the elite

I don't agree with it, but I understand it.
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The working class of yesteryear were not the middle class of today. They were militant, united, and had common goals and values. Marx studied them, and his observations were so terrifying correct that TBTB got rid of them in NAmerica and Europe. If the solidarity is to return, the industrial base will have to return...
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These people that I talk about don't organize. They don't march, they don't wave banners. They just work, try to feed their families and provide a roof over their head.

They don't need an "industrial base" to be who they are. They simply respect honor, truth, peace, courage and bravery.

As a Mexican, you should know this. Just look in any small village. The people selling fruit on the side of the road are as honest as anyone that I have ever met and they don't have an "industrial base" and are not organized.

Don't you see? What I am trying to explain is VERY simple really. Just hard to accept.
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No the NWO will get rid of these weak people

Don't work hard, work smart

Big difference
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I feel sorry for you.
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good looking = good genes

good genes = should have kids, worth investment

just the fact that someone might feel bad for not looking good is considered a genetic weakness to the elite

I don't agree with it, but I understand it.
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Ok, I'm going to tell you a very hidden secret that very few will accept. But I have to.

Listen closely...

Genes, meaning our DNA changes as the light within our heart changes.

Our DNA is not fixed and only based on our parental traits. That is one of the biggest lies of all time.

Our DNA is dynamic and can change itself as we act, believe and feel.

So, we really become who we believe ourselves to be.

I know, more silliness. Right? *sigh*
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BRAVO OP.
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Thank you.

Trying to swim against this massive hate on this site is really a waste of time I'm afraid.
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The hate here is like an tidal-wave today.
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No the NWO will get rid of these weak people

Don't work hard, work smart

Big difference
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I feel sorry for you.
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good looking = good genes

good genes = should have kids, worth investment

just the fact that someone might feel bad for not looking good is considered a genetic weakness to the elite

I don't agree with it, but I understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48021336


Ok, I'm going to tell you a very hidden secret that very few will accept. But I have to.

Listen closely...

Genes, meaning our DNA changes as the light within our heart changes.

Our DNA is not fixed and only based on our parental traits. That is one of the biggest lies of all time.

Our DNA is dynamic and can change itself as we act, believe and feel.

So, we really become who we believe ourselves to be.

I know, more silliness. Right? *sigh*
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this is so false

trust me I breed animals and plants

DNA IS EVERYTHING
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These are God's true "Chosen People". Most work very hard, just scape by trying to make a living and never hurt anyone.

They are the forgotten, the unpopular, the outcasts, the ugly or the old.

They don't promote themselves. They don't brag. They don't talk much and when they do it is very humble and low key.

These people don't cheat others, have honor and respect their peers.

They may be a little dirty at times, may have a few teeth missing, but are as honest as the day is long. These are God's true Chosen People.

These are my heroes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38874043


Actually, I do not agree with this observation at all.
It's just a simple minded stereotype. In fact, I think it's far less likely to have any validity than other stereotypes.

I have found that very often ugly people have been warped by their ugliness and the obvious response they have gotten from others all of the their lives. Ugly people are often hostile and envious.

Poor people, at least in the past maybe not so much now, are poor for a reason. Many are not mentally competent, or have a poor work ethic. Most of them abuse substances. Many are criminals. Many abuse their spouses and children and have other sociopathic tendencies.

If you actually studied Sociology, you would learn that the most honest, reliable, hard working, upright and moral, belong to the middle class.

At either end of the class stucture, the rich and the poor, you will find that there is a general belief that the rules do not apply to them.

I personally believe that the people you are glorifying used to belong to what used to be called "working class." They were more at the bottom end of the Middle Class, but they definitely had Middle Class values.

They are pretty much extinct. They have all fallen into the Lower Class and succumbed to Lower Class "values."

I recently heard that America is considered to be the trailer park of the world. And so it is.
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Did it not occur to anyone that this post is here soley as a propaganda tool. The people in power want you to completely identify with the poor is good ethos because you are poor and you're going to get poorer. They don't want a pissed off poor. They want a happy, complacent poor who see themselves as morally superior.

Ridiculous.

Sadly, the Pope is part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47736581


The working class of yesteryear were not the middle class of today. They were militant, united, and had common goals and values. Marx studied them, and his observations were so terrifying correct that TBTB got rid of them in NAmerica and Europe. If the solidarity is to return, the industrial base will have to return...
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Actually, I stated that the working class was at the bottom of the Middle Class. Each "class" has three tiers. In the Middle Class there was the Working Class, the Middle, Middle Class, and the Upper Middle Class. At least that's how it used to be. The working class was eviscerated in the late 1960's to early 1970's.
Do you know how this was done? Before they shipped all of the jobs out, they shipped all of the poor Southern blacks to the Northern industrial cities. Most of the working class lived in what is now the rust belt. They dispersed the working class into far flung suburbs where there was no longer any sense of belonging and community. Who paid all of the poor, sharecropping, illiterate, Southern black population to board the never ending caravan of Greyhound Buses to come to Detroit, Cleveland, Akron, Chicago, New York, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Indianapolis? There was no work for them in those cities. Who bought up all the houses that had flooded the market at rock bottom prices and rented them out to the hordes of unemployed Negroes? Don't listen to the white flight bullshit, or that there were jobs for the blacks. There wasn't. It was all social engineering. And it was all about getting rid of the working class because they had a sense of community and class affiliation and loyalty. Shipping all of the jobs away came long after they disbanded the working class.
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this is so false

trust me I breed animals and plants

DNA IS EVERYTHING
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I'm sure you do.
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Actually, I stated that the working class was at the bottom of the Middle Class. Each "class" has three tiers. In the Middle Class there was the Working Class, the Middle, Middle Class, and the Upper Middle Class. At least that's how it used to be. The working class was eviscerated in the late 1960's to early 1970's.

Do you know how this was done? Before they shipped all of the jobs out, they shipped all of the poor Southern blacks to the Northern industrial cities. Most of the working class lived in what is now the rust belt. They dispersed the working class into far flung suburbs where there was no longer any sense of belonging and community. Who paid all of the poor, sharecropping, illiterate, Southern black population to board the never ending caravan of Greyhound Buses to come to Detroit, Cleveland, Akron, Chicago, New York, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Indianapolis? There was no work for them in those cities. Who bought up all the houses that had flooded the market at rock bottom prices and rented them out to the hordes of unemployed Negroes? Don't listen to the white flight bullshit, or that there were jobs for the blacks. There wasn't. It was all social engineering. And it was all about getting rid of the working class because they had a sense of community and class affiliation and loyalty. Shipping all of the jobs away came long after they disbanded the working class.
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Please don't start going back to "what was done to America" again.

It's done. Time to move on.
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What you are selling is hard to accept OP because it, and Im being kind, is simply untrue.

Poor ugly people are no more likely to be good people than anyone else. In fact, there is solid evidence to show that they are far less inclined.


You like to paint a picture of the poor simple peasant but in reality there are hordes of poor people who have committed the most heinous crimes and make up the vast majority of the prison population.

For every simple peasant selling fruit on the side of the road, there is a drug smuggling, gun toting, motorcycle gang member waging mayhem on society who came from the same village.

When there is a story in the paper about someone doing something absolutely beyond conception in it's inhumanity, do you usually see a rich person, or a toothless, scaggy, methhead Akronite....

They're always from Akron...originally.

My contention is, you, because you are a propagandist, want people to buy this happy horseshit because then maybe a few won't rise up and kill everybody when they find themselves selling turds on the side of the road because that's all they have...and soon to run out of those.
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Okay. I'm done with you now.
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Okay. I'm done with you now.
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That's good. Obviously my message was not for you anyway.

Peace
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The priests, preachers, gurus, masters and teachers write books, live in nice houses, desire wealth and screw their own followers. These people promote themselves at every turn.

While the poor, the unseen, the homeless, the shadow people may know the real truth.

Which do you listen to?
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Are you one or more of these? Maybe you're nice and trustworthy along with the others like this in your area, but I will in no way trust a majority of the extreme poor and the homeless. In my experiences...these people are like this from the choices they've made along the way. Are all of them like this? No...but just one example of trusting poor homeless strangers is Elizabeth Smart's father bringing in a homeless man to work on the family home's roof. He kidnapped Elizabeth and him AND his wife raped, tortured and mind f'ed her just because her father wanted to be the good samaritan. Talking to is one thing...but I'll never subject my family or myself to the possibility of people smiling in my face while figuring out what I may have that they want. I have poor meth heads next door to me that I wouldn't even turn loose on people I don't like. Just sayin...be careful AND make sure those that you believe to be trustworthy and "safe" actually are. And find those things out before you're inviting them into your home. Also...no...I'm not some rich guy worrying about someone making off with my Van Gogh.

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 Quoting: van down by the river 647094

I didn't hear the OP say anything about being naive.
Or putting oneself in harm's way.

However I did hear him about being kind. About taking a closer look and offering some comfort to the ones overlooked while they're suffering mightily, as well as allowing yourself to be touched by simple beauty of soul.

Not about being a chump.
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More and more we read about those pooooor people doing things to innocent people just trying to work and take care of themselves and their families. Many of these poor people have put themselves in their positions and like to try and take advantage of kind hearts. Maybe not you and I...but many nice people out there ARE still naive or chumps (like you said)and think that the poor homeless guy/girl just needs a couple of dollars for gas to get back home. They might even give them a few bucks for some yard work at their homes and never think that person may come back when they're at work and rob them blind. If you OR the OPee want to just automatically give strangers your trust or invite them to your home...have at it. I'm a little less giving and like people do with me...I wait for someone to earn my trust. Also...what makes you think a woowoo conspiracy site doesn't have a certain percentage of chumps in it just like the general public?

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Re: When times get tough and you want to know who to trust, trust the poor, the hard working, the humble, the outcasts, the ugly.
The working class of yesteryear were not the middle class of today. They were militant, united, and had common goals and values. Marx studied them, and his observations were so terrifying correct that TBTB got rid of them in NAmerica and Europe. If the solidarity is to return, the industrial base will have to return...
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These people that I talk about don't organize. They don't march, they don't wave banners. They just work, try to feed their families and provide a roof over their head.

They don't need an "industrial base" to be who they are. They simply respect honor, truth, peace, courage and bravery.

As a Mexican, you should know this. Just look in any small village. The people selling fruit on the side of the road are as honest as anyone that I have ever met and they don't have an "industrial base" and are not organized.

Don't you see? What I am trying to explain is VERY simple really. Just hard to accept.
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What I was referring to was the NAmerican experience of the loss of industries and manufacturing.

In Mexico that base still exist, tenuous as it is, mostly publicly owned energy enterprises though maquiliadores are a substandard development.

I am not sure which people you are referring to, but poor and hardworking people are humble and quite industrious -- no matter which country. In Mexico, from the subsistence indigenous to the landless street vendors or laborer,,, when it is necessary, they march, wave banners or whatever, and organize themselves when facing a common threat or concern...

There are variations to poor people, only a minority are indigent, homeless, drug addicted and/or thieves...





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