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soccermomgonebad
User ID: 48294318 United States 10/15/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] Holy carp. Thank you so much for posting this. My husband and I were heatedly discussing this last night. He thinks I am crazy, nothing is happening or going to happen and also works for the Housing Authority. He believes that the money that they get from HUD is PREFUNDED and, therefore, not at risk in case of default. I laughed at his naivete. I hope I am not saying I told you so come Nov. 1. Apparently different states administer the funds, and administer them in different ways. One state might prefund, another rely upon replenishment of federal funding. I just got curious from the EBT threads here, and started looking up Section 8 funding stories, curious about how that segment of the poverty industry plays out. Am not finding much, just these couple of very local articles. Nothing national. I keep asking every night if they are freaking yet at work, but they seem kind of waiting like the rest of us. Of course, HUD has been closed around here due to shutdown, so they may not know until money doesn't show up next month. Last Edited by hockeymomgonebad on 10/15/2013 01:32 PM |
Stark
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30579983 United States 10/15/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seriously anyone still ignoring all these "coincidences" deserves the state of shock they'll be in once it all comes crashing down. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias days now, not weeks. Sounds like our government. We can afford to waste billions overseas, and wasteful military programs but can't afford to feed or house our people in ned. Most of those "People in Need" are not really "PEOPLE IN NEED". They are just people that would rather sit around all day playing xbox, stay out all night shooting at the other guys, and let someone else feed/cloth/shelter them... Why not take freebies if it's offered right? If they were forced to do anything, anything for what they're given it wouldn't be so bad. We have people that will not work and just expect a handout. The hand the govt takes from to give is mine! |
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van down by the river User ID: 647094 United States 10/15/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] It's not as if these people will be immediately thrown out, but the landlords will be owed money and not get it. I think some places make it pretty difficult to just throw a tenant out, so it'll be the landlords getting screwed... This is for WA state at the TenantsUnion.org website. If the government shutdown goes on long enough for these people to not get their food stamps AND get thrown out of their homes...we're pretty much all screwed anyway. The following is general information about low-income housing programs and eviction policy. There are many different programs available that help tenants with low-incomes or special housing needs. Different regulations will apply to different programs, and sometimes tenants don’t know exactly which program they are participating in, or are a part of more than one program at a time. It can often be hard to know exactly what program a tenant is a part of and which regulations apply. In addition, being evicted from housing that is subsidized by the government may put your ability to stay in low-income housing programs at risk. It is best to consult an attorney to help navigate low-income housing evictions. Most low-income housing programs have additional rules and policies that govern the eviction process. In some cases, tenants living in low-income housing have increased protections above and beyond what is offered in state law. For a complete look at low-income housing policy, see Subsidized Housing & Section 8. Read more on "Low Income Housing Eviction" » :inIreland: |
goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States 10/15/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2,100,000 housing units. Not people; 'households'. Each holding gawd-knows-how-many feral creatures. (and a few genuinely disabled and otherwise unfortunate souls) Wikipedia article from whence I gleaned the 2.1 million figure: [link to en.wikipedia.org] I Support Our First Responders |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26561718 United States 10/15/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been telling everyone to get the F out of urban areas buy guns and lots of ammo , These people CAN NOT BE EVICTED but Its getting cold here in the north east , the landlords are not going to be able to pay for water , heat and electricity. What do you think million plus people are going to do with no food and heat in -degree weather ? FUBAR They are going to go chimp open looting killing for a warm place to stay . Steal your food rob as you leave super markets at gun point . Their is not enough cops to go around . I am from CT and bought land in Texas and will be moving in a year . This is going to get worse more than you can ever imagine . Once winter sets in all those people will be carted off to fema camps in the guise of there own safety. |
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goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States 10/15/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” Quoting: goodmockingbird [link to www.masslive.com] Holy carp. Thank you so much for posting this. My husband and I were heatedly discussing this last night. He thinks I am crazy, nothing is happening or going to happen and also works for the Housing Authority. He believes that the money that they get from HUD is PREFUNDED and, therefore, not at risk in case of default. I laughed at his naivete. I hope I am not saying I told you so come Nov. 1. . Am not finding much, just these couple of very local articles. Nothing national. I keep asking every night if they are freaking yet at work, but they seem kind of waiting like the rest of us. Of course, HUD has been closed around here due to shutdown, so they may not know until money doesn't show up next month. This seems to have really snuck up from behind. I keep thinking that we "should" be seeing some lameass tearjerker media campaign showing little kids starving and homeless out in the cold. Why are we not seeing this??? Why are there not broadcasts, web sites, urgent appeals about 2.1 MILLION "households" getting thrown to the wolves, cold, hungry and homeless? Where is the propaganda about this??? I Support Our First Responders |
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FritoBandito
User ID: 24106030 United States 10/15/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pardon me and all that, but GOOD! Let these bums pay their own rent. How did this situation even develop? I went homeless for years, and during that time I saw occasional TV or newspaper coverage of people receiving spanking new townhomes (in Chicago, as one example) which they soon ruined. I was the wrong skin colour and had a car to live in instead of a dumpster to shoot drugs in, so I didn't qualify. It's a disgrace to all those who work to pay rent, or just go without. I don't feel sorry for these people at all. Go get a job. If that isn't enough, go get two jobs. If that still isn't enough, make things, sell them at swap meets, wash cars, whatever. Early Americans had to practise this principle. Quoting: Jack The Zipper 48404959 I think they should be given the assistance, but they should also be given a job and required to work it. If they fail to work, barring severe emotional illness or physical illness, they should be put off from the dole. The question is, what liberal retard would vote for anyone who wanted them to earn something for themselves. Once some individual effort is introduced into so-called "safety net" systems, they immediately lose favor. It is nothing short of a tragedy that we even have to deal with this in our once-great country. The people who sign up for government assistance and stay on it their whole life, and pass it down from generation to generation, have never felt the satisfaction of being rewarded for honest work and never will. I believe that satisfaction is something you're either born with or you're not. I am 28, and could have mooched off my parents for years and years, but had the instinct to create something for myself. That can only be accomplished through real work. You either know what I mean or you don't. Without that, things will continue until the system collapses under its own weight. There is no solution besides the chaos that's about to ensue. |
Hard Eight
User ID: 35278639 United States 10/15/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Sec. 8 apartment complex too near to me is responsible for most of the crime in a 10 sq. mile area. Murder, shootings, robbery, etc. More often than not, the criminals aren't even listed on the lease agreement. Cops are around there pretty much 24/7. People truly in need, and society in general, shouldn't have to put up with that scum. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7492010 United States 10/15/2013 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pardon me and all that, but GOOD! Let these bums pay their own rent. How did this situation even develop? I went homeless for years, and during that time I saw occasional TV or newspaper coverage of people receiving spanking new townhomes (in Chicago, as one example) which they soon ruined. I was the wrong skin colour and had a car to live in instead of a dumpster to shoot drugs in, so I didn't qualify. It's a disgrace to all those who work to pay rent, or just go without. I don't feel sorry for these people at all. Go get a job. If that isn't enough, go get two jobs. If that still isn't enough, make things, sell them at swap meets, wash cars, whatever. Early Americans had to practise this principle. Quoting: Jack The Zipper 48404959 AMEN Brother! |
WhatsItAllAbout Alfie
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van down by the river User ID: 647094 United States 10/15/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes...that's so they can organize flash mobs that won't just be terrorizing and robbing stores. If your house looks nice enough...there will be a few hundred or more ransacking people's homes too. It's one thing to be woken up in the middle of the night to an intruder and maybe get a round off in him/her...but quite a different rude awakening if 50, 60 or even a hundred are swarming on your house. No wonder the libs and gun control tards want to limit magazine size. Can't be mowing down "good" citizens that are just down on their luck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48330773 United States 10/15/2013 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] When I was young and starting off, I was working, My family and I , one baby on the way,... was looking for a place to live. We inquired about section 8 and the choices were all dumps and bad neighborhoods. No way, no money was worth saving to raise ones kids in that We chose a trailer park that was quiet, peaceful in the suburbs till my credit score was established and we moved our way up and out. That was many, many years ago.. Its not all roses as you think it is, a lot of section 8 live in dumps. Imagine living in fear of gangs and rocks thrown at windows, cop cars at all hours of night, Not worth it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48330773 United States 10/15/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] When I was young and starting off, I was working, My family and I , one baby on the way,... was looking for a place to live. We inquired about section 8 and the choices were all dumps and bad neighborhoods. No way, no money was worth saving to raise ones kids in that We chose a trailer park that was quiet, peaceful in the suburbs till my credit score was established and we moved our way up and out. That was many, many years ago.. Its not all roses as you think it is, a lot of section 8 live in dumps. Imagine living in fear of gangs and rocks thrown at windows, cop cars at all hours of night, Not worth it. I mean we turned down the section 8 and simply chose a affordable trailer that was resellable . It had two person whirlpool tub, glass etched cabinets, pretty nice actually, till we bought a home. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48175751 United States 10/15/2013 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] Wow, that's going to suck big time! I had applied for section 8, years ago, and when my turn came up on the waiting list to pick up my voucher, I didn't go to fill out the paper work because I didn't need the assistance anymore. I feel for those who really need that program if they lose the funding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31488353 United States 10/15/2013 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know that at the 11th hour the bad cop and the badder cops will reach a deal. However, it would be fucking awesome if this were to really happen. Overnight hundreds of thousands of neighborhoods around the country would raise in value due to the blight and the trash being forced to leave. |
Bluebird
User ID: 44887449 United States 10/15/2013 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can see that happening. Then he'll tell them how he saved them from the evil Republicans and continue on with squandering the tax money as usual. . One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
soccermomgonebad
User ID: 48294318 United States 10/15/2013 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to jacksonville.com] Interesting article from Aug. discussing the huge demand for housing and lack of funding. They opened the WAITING LIST a while back and it was at the sports stadium to handle the crowd. They were lined up for hours just to get on a waiting list that could be years long. Sad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44673203 United States 10/15/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We had some funds that were flowing, but starting Nov. 1, however, we will not have those funds,” Gornstein said. “We will not be able to make payments to landlords, so what could happen is landlords may start the eviction process." Quoting: goodmockingbird ... “But after October, there’s no guarantees,” Kane said. “If they don’t get money, landlords might find they’re not getting payments…. If the shutdown continues more than another week or two, we could be talking about mass displacement of millions of low-income tenants in a few weeks.” [link to www.masslive.com] URGENT!!! Government Freezes EBT Funds: Orders States to Withhold Transfers to Food Stamp Recipients Link ---> [link to www.shtfplan.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47267697 United States 10/15/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't a lot of people under Section 8 considered "mentally ill?" That's part of the reason the program exists, right? To make sure these people have a place to live. So what's going to happen? We are going to have a very large number of emotionally-disturbed people suddenly left homeless. Being somewhat "disturbed" myself (I have a bipolar II diagnosis), I also know what it's like to be homeless under such conditions: it drives you more insane. So yeah, I believe it's all part of a plot to bring martial law into effect. Stupid, stupid, stupid! I say: make every politician live with severely-limited funds (i.e. low-to-middle income wages). Let them know what's it's like to live paycheck-to-paycheck, let them be examples to the American people by first giving up their own wealth. De-fund useless programs, stop engaging in wars, stop throwing money away and start teaching people how to live by their own means! |
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Good feeling User ID: 26561718 United States 10/15/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because when the shit really hits the fan , the major population will much easier to handle . Like if China calls in our dept the American dollar will de-value very fast and become worthless this why they are coming after the law abiding citizens guns . It will be the last link to complete socialism . |
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goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States 10/15/2013 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | keep in mind that many of the section 8 rentals are mortgaged...so with no rent, the tenant is kicked, the landlord cant pay his mortgage, and the bank forecloses....maybe the banks are behind this too, who knows. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24061376 Why in tarnation would the bank want some piece of crap house that the evicted section 8 "renters" will have completely trashed on their way out??? Banks really do not want to have any reposessed houses on their hands. They sure as heck do not want houses that are in bad neighborhoods PLUS totally trashed. They're a nightmarish liability instead of an asset. I Support Our First Responders |
endtimes101
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goodmockingbird
(OP) User ID: 48359356 United States 10/15/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aren't a lot of people under Section 8 considered "mentally ill?" That's part of the reason the program exists, right? To make sure these people have a place to live. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47267697 So what's going to happen? We are going to have a very large number of emotionally-disturbed people suddenly left homeless. Hundreds of thousands of them! As a former social worker, I recall doing in-home visits with the residents of several apartment complexes that were absolutely filled with nothing but the very mentally ill. Those apartment complexes are a big business! I Support Our First Responders |