8 Minute Standing For Ted Cruz After This Comment...Welcome Home Mr. Cruz!

His wife is CFR

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It still highly amuses me that people think any single one of these "representatives" actually represent any of the average citizens of the US, both Democrat and Republican. They are all bought and paid for. Ted Cruz doesn't give a shit about you and will do what he's told from the higher ups. If you mistake that for him actually wanting to help the people, then continue living in your fantasy land.

No they are all corrupt, I agree. I wouldn't trust his handshake and just like every other politician he likely lies and slithers his way around the political world...

That being said, he is doing more than any other politician at standing for what I believe, and my interests are aligned with his actions in Washington. And that is more than can be said for most politicians...I mean can you imagine being represented by someone like Nancy Pelosi?

You know, I get that you need to fight hard for what you believe in, but at what point does it become ok to ignore the Constitution?

We have a method for passing laws. Obamacare, very imperfect as it is, passed the House of Representatives, passed the Senate and was signed into law by the POTUS. It then went before the Supreme Court which held that it did not violate the limits set forth in the Constitution.

At that point, any Republicans who try to sabotage this thing by not doing their jobs are essentially violating their oaths of office in order to oppose our system of government. The fact that they all preach their devotion to the Constitution while completely opposing it makes it all the more bizarre.

Ted Cruz has no justifiable rationale for his actions. Frankly, he seems kind of crazy.

Good cop Bad cop.

Keeps you vested in the System.

OP, his wife is an insider. Do a wiki search on her. CFR. I think Uncle FS pointed this out a week or so ago on another thread ... you could also search for that. Beware of how the media portrays people...

It isn't about republican/ democrat political games anymore for people like Ted Cruz. It is about taking a stand for what is right, and it WAS right to protest Obamacare.

For example, there was an article today that mentioned that Greg Abbott is running for Attorney General in Texas and stated most people know his number one agenda item is to "sue the federal government".

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Some people in this country (many politicians from Texas- Ted Cruz, Greg Abbott, Pete Sessions) honestly are just sick of the tyranny in DC. And i believe that these politicians, while perhaps dirty in terms of being in bed with oil business in Texas, are just sick of progressives destroying the values and rights stated in the Constitution.

I know I am sick of what is going on, and there are many more that I talk too that are too...Ted Cruz has been the most aligned with my views during this latest fight in Congress, and I would have stood and given that man an 8 minute ovation

duder the rule of law here has been infiltrated. that means all processes have been compromised

OP, I think you're being manipulated.

If Cruz was serious about his opposition to Obamacare, then he wouldn't have encouraged a pointless government shutdown which even Karl Rove predicted would do nothing. He would have done what all politicians do, and made coalitions, compromises and backroom deals in order to do something (ANYTHING) to improve the situation.

Instead, he made a lot of noise which he knew would accomplish nothing more than get him 8 minute ovations back home. You've been had.

Dude I am a realist and I stated that. I don't trust politicians. Period. We were never supposed to. Good citizens are supposed to question their government.

That being said, I am proud of the Tea Party because they are taking a stand for against the absurdity in this country, and I am proud of Ted Cruz for his actions as a leader of the Tea Party. Period.

Easy to say nothing sees wrong in America while posting from the Philippines.

I am not hear to discuss this shit with you, but to bring attention to the fact that some people are proud of what people like Ted Cruz are doing. Beat it shill.

If you're going to claim that it's right to ignore the Constitutional process by which we pass laws, then you need to also believe that the Congressional races were all rigged. If not, and if Congress was actually elected in fair elections, then nothing has been infiltrated at all. This is how the system has always been run, and it's our American system of government with which you take exception.

You're actually free to do exactly that if you like (God bless America), but it's silly to claim you're defending the Constitution while you're doing it. If the elections were fair, then shutting down the government was just a dick move.

The guy is grandstanding.

OP, when did I say nothing seems wrong with America? I made no comment about its virtues or vices at all. All I said was that it makes no sense for someone to claim they're defending the Constitution while directly opposing it. Again, it's crazy.

Obama has directly violated the Constitution many times previously.

And as far as justification for Ted Cruz's seemingly "Crazy" actions, all I can say is extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures... and what the Tea Party did was an extraordinary protest to an extraordinarily bad law.

These are not extraordinary times. The Civil War was an extraordinary time. World Wars I and II were extraordinary times. These times are perfectly normal.

You guys don't like a law which was passed by democratically elected representatives in accordance with the Constitution, and are choosing to ignore the Constitution while claiming to be patriots.

You don't like something? Scream, argue, cajole and VOTE, but please don't oppose the system of government you claim to love. No one will listen to your arguments if they think you're crazy.

By all means though, please don't stop opposing Obamacare. I encourage you in the strongest possible terms to voice your reasons and arguments against it. Add the weight of your opinions to the public debate, as will I, and hopefully we'll all be better for it.

That said, once the votes are counted, that's pretty much it until next time. That's America, like it or not.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about...I will leave you with some quotes from Thomas Jefferson.

"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [i.e., securing inherent and inalienable rights, with powers derived from the consent of the governed], it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787

But OP, you guys are a minority. Again, democratically elected representatives passed this law, and their powers actually ARE derived from the consent of the governed. It's only you that doesn't consent. You don't get to ignore the Constitution just because you don't like something that came of it.

I'm sorry, but our government does not become a failed experiment just because ultra-right Christians don't get their way, and all the obscenities in the world won't make it so.

By all means, please continue in your Constitutionally protected right to curse and swear, and don't forget to vote.

I'm kind of joking about this, but if you're advocating armed resistance to the U.S. government based on your religious beliefs, and if you're willing to ignore the will of the majority in that pursuit, then aren't you kind of a terrorist?

The president can rewrite the law, but the congress can't and anyone who disagrees with the president is a terrorist.

Anybody see that 60 Minutes segment last night? Basically showed exactly how they are all bought and paid for.

Long story short, a portion of their "campaign contributions" (which largely come from lobbyists and special-interest groups) go into a slush fund which they can basically use in any way they want.

So, if I'm a congressman, a lobbyist can contribute a million bucks to my campaign and I can transfer some of that into a slush fund and use it to play a round every morning at Pebble Beach.

Of course, in return, perhaps I could vote in that lobbyist's favor on a few key topics.

Institutionalized corruption. Makes Mexico look like honest politics! LOL!

Yes. It sucks, but moneyed interests running the show was not invented by our generation. I'll bet good money that politics have been like this in every country in every age.

Suggestions?

By the way, you would not believe the shit that's going on in the Philippines. It's incredible the things these guys don't have to worry about getting caught doing.

The president cannot rewrite laws. He can sign or not sign what Congress presents to him.

Congress can, and does, rewrite bills before they're presented to the POTUS, if they make it that far. They can also rewrite existing laws, if they have the votes.

They can't rewrite this particular law, because there aren't enough people who agree with the Tea Party views to make it happen. Only a minority of people agree with the OP. That doesn't mean that the country is failing.

People who don't get this are acting like children.

Cruz didn't encourage the shut down. Cruz and the repubs sent bill after bill after bill to Obama who vetoed every one of them. When they sent a bill to Obama funding Obamacare, he vetoed that too.

Cruz, Lee, and the people found out just who the enemies are. We found out just how irrational and tyrannical, childish, Obama really is. We found out who the real traitors are the old guard Repubs.
We found out that when we rise up against them, they back down.

No, we haven't been had. This time, the game was played in public on the media for all to see, and it is Obama who wanted the shut down, planned for the shut down, and carried out tyranny against the people and the military.

You've been had. The lights are on now.

You are one of the few people who believes this. That's why the rest of the country thinks you guys are delusional.