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Pronouns in a world of archetypes.

 
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I don't really expect a lot of replies to this bit of information but I'd like to try and get people to think a little more about the deeper understandings of their experience and existence together, to try and comprehend the patterns of behavior and primal factors involved.

In a world where archetypes are obvious on some levels and not so obvious on others I came to a realization that on a subconscious level it seemed that folks are using pronouns and language in general in a way that treats certain words as though they are some sort of encompassing entity. Like the words I, Me, You, We, or Us. I recognized a pattern of usage that started to make more sense in a storyline kind of situation. That these pronouns were characters of immense importance to the speakers not just personally but in a group macro perspective.

I highly recommend taking a look a what people say or write in this manner so you can trip out on how it comes across. If anything it can be really funny sometimes..but also disturbing when you see the drama taking place.

This is some wiki info on pronouns..

Common types of pronouns found in the world's languages are as follows:
Personal pronouns denote an entity of a specific grammatical person:
first person (as in the case of I, me, we, etc.),
second person (as in the case of you), or
third person (he, she, they, etc.)
Subject pronouns are used when the person or thing is the subject of the sentence or clause. English example: I like to eat chips, but she does not.
Second person formal and informal pronouns (T-V distinction). For example, vous and tu in French. There is no distinction in modern English though Elizabethan English marked the distinction with "thou" (singular informal) and "you" (plural or singular formal).
Inclusive and exclusive "we" pronouns indicate whether the audience is included. There is no distinction in English.
Intensive pronouns, also known as emphatic pronouns, re-emphasize a noun or pronoun that has already been mentioned. English uses the same forms as the reflexive pronouns; for example: I did it myself (contrast reflexive use, I did it to myself).

Object pronouns are used when the person or thing is the object of the sentence or clause. English example: John likes me but not her. Direct and indirect object pronouns. English uses the same oblique form for both; for example: Mary loves him (direct object); Mary sent him a letter (indirect object).
Reflexive pronouns are used when a person or thing acts on itself. English example: John cut himself.
Reciprocal pronouns refer to a reciprocal relationship. English example: They do not like each other.

Prepositional pronouns come after a preposition. No distinct forms exist in English; for example: Anna and Maria looked at him.
Disjunctive pronouns are used in isolation or in certain other special grammatical contexts. No distinct forms exist in English; for example: Who does this belong to? Me.
Dummy pronouns are used when grammatical rules require a noun (or pronoun), but none is semantically required. English example: It is raining.
Weak pronouns.

Possessive pronouns are used to indicate possession or ownership. In a strict sense, the possessive pronouns are only those that act syntactically as nouns. English example: Those clothes are mine.
Often, though, the term "possessive pronoun" is also applied to the so-called possessive determiners (or possessive adjectives). For example, in English: I lost my wallet. They are not strictly speaking pronouns[citation needed] because they do not substitute for a noun or noun phrase, and as such, some grammarians classify these terms in a separate lexical category called determiners (they have a syntactic role close to that of adjectives, always qualifying a noun).

Demonstrative pronouns distinguish the particular objects or people that are referred to from other possible candidates. English example: I'll take these.
Indefinite pronouns refer to general categories of people or things. English example: Anyone can do that. Distributive pronouns are used to refer to members of a group separately rather than collectively. English example: To each his own.
Negative pronouns indicate the non-existence of people or things. English example: Nobody thinks that.

Relative pronouns refer back to people or things previously mentioned. English example: People who smoke should quit now. Indefinite relative pronouns have some of the properties of both relative pronouns and indefinite pronouns. They have a sense of "referring back", but the person or thing to which they refer has not previously been explicitly named. English example: I know what I like.

Interrogative pronouns ask which person or thing is meant. English example: Who did that? In many languages (e.g., Czech, English, French, Interlingua, and Russian), the sets of relative and interrogative pronouns are nearly identical. Compare English: Who is that? (interrogative) to I know who that is.

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Re: Pronouns in a world of archetypes.
Titles of threads on glp really make this whole issue pretty easy to catch in action like for instance this thread..

Thread: Is She Even Interested in Me?...Im Depressed.

notice the capitals on each word etc..

or even just think about phrases like "Fuck You" being used by so many people and what that expresses as a group energy toward some macro entity named "You".
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bump for the morning crowd.
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Another interesting example..

Thread: So....do you lose your 1st amendment or your 2nd amendment? YOU choose. Poll

you, your, and an all caps YOU thrown in there by this poster.

I wanted to point out that there often seems to be a strange need by some apparently to try and project negative emotion or connections onto all the YOU's or US's etc.. usually in the thread titles. I noticed many purposely not qualifying their statements, and an obvious sense of negative purpose in mind. The contrived nature of the postings and the patterned elements also made me sense the workings of concerted efforts sometimes..think of hired shills or agenda spreading team work. Psychological warfare.

Here's a couple more that don't seem negative based off the contents..

Thread: A message for you :)

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this is a much more broad discussion about language but it touches on some of the lost understanding regarding the possible depth of effects associated.

And more to the point of the topic..imagine how much information and energy is now bombarding the website known as "youtube".

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I don't really expect a lot of replies to this bit of information but I'd like to try and get people to think a little more about the deeper understandings of their experience and existence together, to try and comprehend the patterns of behavior and primal factors involved.
Who is that? (interrogative) to I know who that is.
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Mandarin does not differentiate between the possessive adjective 'my' and the possessive pronoun 'mine.'

Furthermore, Mandarin makes no distinction (in speech) between 'he', 'she' and 'it.' Pronouns remain the same whether they are the subject or object of a sentence.

Examples:

Wo - I

Wo 'de' - Mine /My

Ta - He / Her /It

Ta 'de' - His / Hers /Its

In Mandarin speech there is no 'him or 'her, it's all about the context.....



peace

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I don't really expect a lot of replies to this bit of information but I'd like to try and get people to think a little more about the deeper understandings of their experience and existence together, to try and comprehend the patterns of behavior and primal factors involved.
Who is that? (interrogative) to I know who that is.
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Mandarin does not differentiate between the possessive adjective 'my' and the possessive pronoun 'mine.'

Furthermore, Mandarin makes no distinction (in speech) between 'he', 'she' and 'it.' Pronouns remain the same whether they are the subject or object of a sentence.

Examples:

Wo - I

Wo 'de' - Mine /My

Ta - He / Her /It

Ta 'de' - His / Hers /Its

In Mandarin speech there is no 'him or 'her, it's all about the context.....



peace
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yes very interesting, I've spent a decent amount of time investigating Chinese language usage recently as it translates to English and it seems they collectively are enamored with the archetype of "You".
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So you mean people use capitalization and phrasing to influence their audience in a way that will hopefully forward their agenda and the more negative posters project their insecurities onto others with verbal attacks when people argue or disagree with them.

Good thing you're not guilty of that or i might think you're a hypocrite or something.
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So you mean people use capitalization and phrasing to influence their audience in a way that will hopefully forward their agenda and the more negative posters project their insecurities onto others with verbal attacks when people argue or disagree with them.

Good thing you're not guilty of that or i might think you're a hypocrite or something.
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Nope, missed the point of this discussion. A hint: read the title.

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So you mean people use capitalization and phrasing to influence their audience in a way that will hopefully forward their agenda and the more negative posters project their insecurities onto others with verbal attacks when people argue or disagree with them.

Good thing you're not guilty of that or i might think you're a hypocrite or something.
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Really believe that this information is useful and important but doesn't involve enough dramas to grab easy attention, therefore + bumpage.


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