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IRS has been issuing ID#'s since 1996 to illegals

 
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Well I'll be darned, the IRS issued in 1996 #'s to illegals so they could file taxes. No wonder the gov't doesn't want to deport them because they've been enabling them more than we knew, giving them fake ID's. The gov't knows who most of the illegals are:"Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers."

I am totally blown away, anyone else feel the same?


"Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
Eight million illegals pay Social Security, Medicare, and income taxes
By Shikha Dalmia


Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America's bedrock belief in fairness. But many "pull-up-the-drawbridge" politicians want to do just that when it comes to illegal immigrants.

The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation's hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don't pay for.

In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education.

Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers. Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets.

The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid. But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid "theft of these benefits by illegal aliens," as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it.

But, immigrants aren't flocking to the United States to mooch off the government. According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year.

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed. To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program. Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn't be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs.

The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don't want here in the first place. With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around."
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Sorry, no link, from another message board. I may be adding to this, some info is coming out that has enraged me.
When the marches started, some of us were hearing,some of these "illegals" had SS#'s..but how could they, we asked??? Well, this shows they have, and it goes back 10 years. Did the politicians even know, and they played innocent? Or was the wool pulled over Their eyes?
We as Americans have a right to know what is going on! I'm sitting here, feeling outrage, wondering if WE are actually being set up, by powers to be, to have a civil war? For who's benefit? Why is this kind of information held from us? Is this why so many of what we think are illegals, able to buy, or mortgage homes in America?
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bump Come on guys, this is important!
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05/25/2006 12:02 AM
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bsflagTancreado is right. In Colorada alone we have 114,000 illegal migrant in our schools that cost 8-10,000 per head a year. Their taxes donot cover this. Take your propaganda and stick it!
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05/25/2006 12:04 AM
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Come on! Prove what you say and offer documentation.What BSthis is!!!!!!!!
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05/25/2006 12:22 AM
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My very first flag!
bsflag
Your VILLAGE called, their IDIOT is missing.

Your IDIOT called, their VILLAGE is missing.
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05/25/2006 12:39 AM
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I worked at a county hospital in a major city in texas and it openned my eyes to how much money the county was spending on illegals,not just from mexico but farther south,people from all over south america.Most couldnt speak english so the hospital hired people to speak for them.The hospital almost went broke 3 times in the same year i was there back in 92.
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05/25/2006 12:41 AM
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There was something about that on Lou Dobbs earlier tonight
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05/25/2006 04:22 AM
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[link to search.yahoo.com]

Take your pick, there are about 295 hits on this page. I put "irs issuing id#'s since 1996 to illegals", and that came up.I'm sure I could find something also on CNN.

I'm telling ya, that BS flag is for the pit, guys. Trinity, it's like ice cold water!! Waaa, waaa! Lol, I'm over it.

So if this doesn't suck, or what???
Anyone notice how many times we kept hearing mention here and there that certain illegal persons were paying "some sort of" taxes? They are complaining of paying state taxes??
Beer, groceries, cigarettes, same thing they would pay in any other country.
Anyone know anything about these illegal persons that can get mortgages? How do they do this if they Didn't have some sort of Federal ID??
This has been going on for at least ten years...Clinton, Bush, they all knew this. I'm sure it was public record, but it Has been under wrapps, otherwise Lou Dobbs would have covered it sooner. Right? Who knows anymore, are there any politicians that can be trusted??
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05/25/2006 04:32 AM
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62234,

I don't think there is much to question that so many have been and still will be allowed so easily to become legal.Aside from the illegals
that will cop out from the system, but still use it. I think the government partly wants them legal in some shape or form to collect taxes. And then also maybe for soldiers. There just seems to be so much confusing about Mexico's tie over us. Did you read
that three countries, Canada, Mexico and US are merging? I believe this has already Been in effect for awhile.
There is no question, America has changed.
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Ya know, two different people have given this a BS vote since I last came back around 4:AM. This is really sorry, I guess you don't know how to read very well, or feel this isn't something important that is affecting out lives in the United States. Have you got the balls to post who you are? I doubt it.
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