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JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49373695


Haven't seen the documentary, but here's a book which I believe has nailed this thing. It's called "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron & Thom Hartmann. They used documents released in the mid 1990s under court order from a commission ordered by Bill Clinton.

All this new info, combined with the old, makes it clear the story went like this:

Despite JFK's promise to Krushchev that he would leave Cuba alone, he and Bobby dreamed up a coup attempt against Castro to use someone in his intimate group who was disaffected. They don't say it explicitly but it's likely to have been Che Guevara who'd been close to Castro but became disaffected with his alignment with Russia.

Anyway, so there was this massively secret project, with no one person (other other JFK & RFK themselves) knowing all the pieces. Date was to be early December 1963. After the killing of Castro the coup leader woudl openly request U.S. aid. It was all in place and ready to go.

One hitch, the plan used mafia hit men and mafia connections. The mafia, meanwhile HATED the Kennedys for the investigation and heat and threats of deportation ongoing under RFK. Somehow the Kennedys were just a little too arrogant to believe anyone would strike back. But the mafia used this Castro coup (known internally as "C Day") to turn the whole endeavor against Kennedy.

Unknown to most Americans today, there were two failed assassination attempts against Kennedy in mid-November 1963, one in Chicago (motorcade) and another in Tampa (motorcade) just 3 days before Dallas. The Kennedy's themselves knew about it but suppressed any media reports and forbade the Secret Service from doing anything about it.

In light of JFK's promises to Krushchev, the Kennedy's had to absolutely suppress any kind of investigation that might have uncovered the coup plan. Literally nuclear holocaust was the risk of 'crossing' the Russians. Publicizing the assassination attempts would have led to investigations that likely would uncover the coup plan. So they suppressed. This explains many many things, including Jackie's first words "They got him."

And yes it was Bobby himself who obstructed the investigation after Kennedy was successfully assassinated in Dallas. The C Day plan was shelved but understandably any discovery of it could've led to WWIII. Bobby is the one who interfered with the autopsy and with the Warren investigation and is the reason autopsy reports are all f'ed up and inconsistent. He put out the word and he was the word. With everyone shocked and distraught, they would've done anything Bobby said. And they did. He took that to his own early grave.

The Waldron/Hartmann book does not mention James Files, but everything they say about Johnny Roselli and Charles Nicoletti and the other mafia dons who ran this operation checks out perfectly with what James Files says. Files claims to be the grassy knoll shooter and to me it all checks out.

Amazing, sad, true.

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hmm yeh, but no grassy knowl shooter..watch the documentary, they prove with ballistics the shot came from the car behind JFK(secret service) the bullet came from an AR-15 and they have the photo of the agent holding the rifle (inside of the car) moments before. note also the secret service agents were all out drinking till 5am that morning, all except the agent holding the gun

must watch documentary anyway, smoking gun evidence
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49373695


Haven't seen the documentary, but here's a book which I believe has nailed this thing. It's called "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron & Thom Hartmann. They used documents released in the mid 1990s under court order from a commission ordered by Bill Clinton.

All this new info, combined with the old, makes it clear the story went like this:

Despite JFK's promise to Krushchev that he would leave Cuba alone, he and Bobby dreamed up a coup attempt against Castro to use someone in his intimate group who was disaffected. They don't say it explicitly but it's likely to have been Che Guevara who'd been close to Castro but became disaffected with his alignment with Russia.

Anyway, so there was this massively secret project, with no one person (other other JFK & RFK themselves) knowing all the pieces. Date was to be early December 1963. After the killing of Castro the coup leader woudl openly request U.S. aid. It was all in place and ready to go.

One hitch, the plan used mafia hit men and mafia connections. The mafia, meanwhile HATED the Kennedys for the investigation and heat and threats of deportation ongoing under RFK. Somehow the Kennedys were just a little too arrogant to believe anyone would strike back. But the mafia used this Castro coup (known internally as "C Day") to turn the whole endeavor against Kennedy.

Unknown to most Americans today, there were two failed assassination attempts against Kennedy in mid-November 1963, one in Chicago (motorcade) and another in Tampa (motorcade) just 3 days before Dallas. The Kennedy's themselves knew about it but suppressed any media reports and forbade the Secret Service from doing anything about it.

In light of JFK's promises to Krushchev, the Kennedy's had to absolutely suppress any kind of investigation that might have uncovered the coup plan. Literally nuclear holocaust was the risk of 'crossing' the Russians. Publicizing the assassination attempts would have led to investigations that likely would uncover the coup plan. So they suppressed. This explains many many things, including Jackie's first words "They got him."

And yes it was Bobby himself who obstructed the investigation after Kennedy was successfully assassinated in Dallas. The C Day plan was shelved but understandably any discovery of it could've led to WWIII. Bobby is the one who interfered with the autopsy and with the Warren investigation and is the reason autopsy reports are all f'ed up and inconsistent. He put out the word and he was the word. With everyone shocked and distraught, they would've done anything Bobby said. And they did. He took that to his own early grave.

The Waldron/Hartmann book does not mention James Files, but everything they say about Johnny Roselli and Charles Nicoletti and the other mafia dons who ran this operation checks out perfectly with what James Files says. Files claims to be the grassy knoll shooter and to me it all checks out.

Amazing, sad, true.
 Quoting: CatRWall


Amazing, sad, lies.

that is probably the worst account of the assassination i have ever heard.

this has been explained over and over and the evidence is clear.

the govt murdered marilyn monroe (using enema), murdered JFK, RFK, and MLK.

why?

because they could not control them. the military industrial complex along with some very wealthy families, Rockefellers etc, run this bitch.

you do not begin to make decisions without their approvals or you die.

malcolm wallace fingerprints were all over the boxes in the 6th floor. he was a hitman for lbj. he had done two murders at least in the past. he was one of the shooters. others were mafia from europe.

secret service was ordered to stand down.

dallas police were in on it but it was a cia/fbi job. ruby was part of the organization as well as oswald but he did not know he was the patsy till it went down.
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49373695


Haven't seen the documentary, but here's a book which I believe has nailed this thing. It's called "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron & Thom Hartmann. They used documents released in the mid 1990s under court order from a commission ordered by Bill Clinton.

All this new info, combined with the old, makes it clear the story went like this:

Despite JFK's promise to Krushchev that he would leave Cuba alone, he and Bobby dreamed up a coup attempt against Castro to use someone in his intimate group who was disaffected. They don't say it explicitly but it's likely to have been Che Guevara who'd been close to Castro but became disaffected with his alignment with Russia.

Anyway, so there was this massively secret project, with no one person (other other JFK & RFK themselves) knowing all the pieces. Date was to be early December 1963. After the killing of Castro the coup leader woudl openly request U.S. aid. It was all in place and ready to go.

One hitch, the plan used mafia hit men and mafia connections. The mafia, meanwhile HATED the Kennedys for the investigation and heat and threats of deportation ongoing under RFK. Somehow the Kennedys were just a little too arrogant to believe anyone would strike back. But the mafia used this Castro coup (known internally as "C Day") to turn the whole endeavor against Kennedy.

Unknown to most Americans today, there were two failed assassination attempts against Kennedy in mid-November 1963, one in Chicago (motorcade) and another in Tampa (motorcade) just 3 days before Dallas. The Kennedy's themselves knew about it but suppressed any media reports and forbade the Secret Service from doing anything about it.

In light of JFK's promises to Krushchev, the Kennedy's had to absolutely suppress any kind of investigation that might have uncovered the coup plan. Literally nuclear holocaust was the risk of 'crossing' the Russians. Publicizing the assassination attempts would have led to investigations that likely would uncover the coup plan. So they suppressed. This explains many many things, including Jackie's first words "They got him."

And yes it was Bobby himself who obstructed the investigation after Kennedy was successfully assassinated in Dallas. The C Day plan was shelved but understandably any discovery of it could've led to WWIII. Bobby is the one who interfered with the autopsy and with the Warren investigation and is the reason autopsy reports are all f'ed up and inconsistent. He put out the word and he was the word. With everyone shocked and distraught, they would've done anything Bobby said. And they did. He took that to his own early grave.

The Waldron/Hartmann book does not mention James Files, but everything they say about Johnny Roselli and Charles Nicoletti and the other mafia dons who ran this operation checks out perfectly with what James Files says. Files claims to be the grassy knoll shooter and to me it all checks out.

Amazing, sad, true.
 Quoting: CatRWall


Amazing, sad, lies.

that is probably the worst account of the assassination i have ever heard.

this has been explained over and over and the evidence is clear.

the govt murdered marilyn monroe (using enema), murdered JFK, RFK, and MLK.

why?

because they could not control them. the military industrial complex along with some very wealthy families, Rockefellers etc, run this bitch.

you do not begin to make decisions without their approvals or you die.

malcolm wallace fingerprints were all over the boxes in the 6th floor. he was a hitman for lbj. he had done two murders at least in the past. he was one of the shooters. others were mafia from europe.

secret service was ordered to stand down.

dallas police were in on it but it was a cia/fbi job. ruby was part of the organization as well as oswald but he did not know he was the patsy till it went down.
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Bwahahaha ... you're an idiot.

But ok, just show me your 800-page book with 75 pages of references to back up your sadly ridiculous claim, and I'll consider it. I showed you mine.
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49373695


Haven't seen the documentary, but here's a book which I believe has nailed this thing. It's called "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron & Thom Hartmann. They used documents released in the mid 1990s under court order from a commission ordered by Bill Clinton.

All this new info, combined with the old, makes it clear the story went like this:

Despite JFK's promise to Krushchev that he would leave Cuba alone, he and Bobby dreamed up a coup attempt against Castro to use someone in his intimate group who was disaffected. They don't say it explicitly but it's likely to have been Che Guevara who'd been close to Castro but became disaffected with his alignment with Russia.

Anyway, so there was this massively secret project, with no one person (other other JFK & RFK themselves) knowing all the pieces. Date was to be early December 1963. After the killing of Castro the coup leader woudl openly request U.S. aid. It was all in place and ready to go.

One hitch, the plan used mafia hit men and mafia connections. The mafia, meanwhile HATED the Kennedys for the investigation and heat and threats of deportation ongoing under RFK. Somehow the Kennedys were just a little too arrogant to believe anyone would strike back. But the mafia used this Castro coup (known internally as "C Day") to turn the whole endeavor against Kennedy.

Unknown to most Americans today, there were two failed assassination attempts against Kennedy in mid-November 1963, one in Chicago (motorcade) and another in Tampa (motorcade) just 3 days before Dallas. The Kennedy's themselves knew about it but suppressed any media reports and forbade the Secret Service from doing anything about it.

In light of JFK's promises to Krushchev, the Kennedy's had to absolutely suppress any kind of investigation that might have uncovered the coup plan. Literally nuclear holocaust was the risk of 'crossing' the Russians. Publicizing the assassination attempts would have led to investigations that likely would uncover the coup plan. So they suppressed. This explains many many things, including Jackie's first words "They got him."

And yes it was Bobby himself who obstructed the investigation after Kennedy was successfully assassinated in Dallas. The C Day plan was shelved but understandably any discovery of it could've led to WWIII. Bobby is the one who interfered with the autopsy and with the Warren investigation and is the reason autopsy reports are all f'ed up and inconsistent. He put out the word and he was the word. With everyone shocked and distraught, they would've done anything Bobby said. And they did. He took that to his own early grave.

The Waldron/Hartmann book does not mention James Files, but everything they say about Johnny Roselli and Charles Nicoletti and the other mafia dons who ran this operation checks out perfectly with what James Files says. Files claims to be the grassy knoll shooter and to me it all checks out.

Amazing, sad, true.
 Quoting: CatRWall


Amazing, sad, lies.

that is probably the worst account of the assassination i have ever heard.

this has been explained over and over and the evidence is clear.

the govt murdered marilyn monroe (using enema), murdered JFK, RFK, and MLK.

why?

because they could not control them. the military industrial complex along with some very wealthy families, Rockefellers etc, run this bitch.

you do not begin to make decisions without their approvals or you die.

malcolm wallace fingerprints were all over the boxes in the 6th floor. he was a hitman for lbj. he had done two murders at least in the past. he was one of the shooters. others were mafia from europe.

secret service was ordered to stand down.

dallas police were in on it but it was a cia/fbi job. ruby was part of the organization as well as oswald but he did not know he was the patsy till it went down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49158371


I wont disagree with any of that, except to say fbi weren't in the loop? from what I gathered anyway it was secret service who took the body of the original doctor assigned to the autopsy? secret service took all the evidence that was collected at the autopsy? bottom line is Oswald was a patsy yes? the only real evidence that can be believed is the witness reports, it was witnessed(and photographed) secret service holding a rifle (which they denied) and the guy holding the gun had only been in secret service for a few months(he was polishing cars for secret service in that time) and as I said before, the secret service was up bar hopping till 5am that day, all except the guy holding the gun. forget his name sorry, he died 5 years ago, hence the story is published again, he had been using high priced lawyers to sue any1 who accused him of the death, even though all the evidence says he did it
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
I watched this tonight on tv, admittedly I think there is some bullshit still in it..mainly the idea that the ar-15 used by SS was shot accidently, this I think is the only thing they can come up with since the evidence is overwhelming of what bullet killed JFK and it's trajectory

anyway I wont crap on but I recommend watching this documentary, it's definitely the best 1 I've seen and leaves no doubt as to what happened

if you know anybody who doubts the conspiracy, make them watch

[link to www.680news.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49373695


Haven't seen the documentary, but here's a book which I believe has nailed this thing. It's called "Ultimate Sacrifice" by Lamar Waldron & Thom Hartmann. They used documents released in the mid 1990s under court order from a commission ordered by Bill Clinton.

All this new info, combined with the old, makes it clear the story went like this:

Despite JFK's promise to Krushchev that he would leave Cuba alone, he and Bobby dreamed up a coup attempt against Castro to use someone in his intimate group who was disaffected. They don't say it explicitly but it's likely to have been Che Guevara who'd been close to Castro but became disaffected with his alignment with Russia.

Anyway, so there was this massively secret project, with no one person (other other JFK & RFK themselves) knowing all the pieces. Date was to be early December 1963. After the killing of Castro the coup leader woudl openly request U.S. aid. It was all in place and ready to go.

One hitch, the plan used mafia hit men and mafia connections. The mafia, meanwhile HATED the Kennedys for the investigation and heat and threats of deportation ongoing under RFK. Somehow the Kennedys were just a little too arrogant to believe anyone would strike back. But the mafia used this Castro coup (known internally as "C Day") to turn the whole endeavor against Kennedy.

Unknown to most Americans today, there were two failed assassination attempts against Kennedy in mid-November 1963, one in Chicago (motorcade) and another in Tampa (motorcade) just 3 days before Dallas. The Kennedy's themselves knew about it but suppressed any media reports and forbade the Secret Service from doing anything about it.

In light of JFK's promises to Krushchev, the Kennedy's had to absolutely suppress any kind of investigation that might have uncovered the coup plan. Literally nuclear holocaust was the risk of 'crossing' the Russians. Publicizing the assassination attempts would have led to investigations that likely would uncover the coup plan. So they suppressed. This explains many many things, including Jackie's first words "They got him."

And yes it was Bobby himself who obstructed the investigation after Kennedy was successfully assassinated in Dallas. The C Day plan was shelved but understandably any discovery of it could've led to WWIII. Bobby is the one who interfered with the autopsy and with the Warren investigation and is the reason autopsy reports are all f'ed up and inconsistent. He put out the word and he was the word. With everyone shocked and distraught, they would've done anything Bobby said. And they did. He took that to his own early grave.

The Waldron/Hartmann book does not mention James Files, but everything they say about Johnny Roselli and Charles Nicoletti and the other mafia dons who ran this operation checks out perfectly with what James Files says. Files claims to be the grassy knoll shooter and to me it all checks out.

Amazing, sad, true.
 Quoting: CatRWall


Amazing, sad, lies.

that is probably the worst account of the assassination i have ever heard.

this has been explained over and over and the evidence is clear.

the govt murdered marilyn monroe (using enema), murdered JFK, RFK, and MLK.

why?

because they could not control them. the military industrial complex along with some very wealthy families, Rockefellers etc, run this bitch.

you do not begin to make decisions without their approvals or you die.

malcolm wallace fingerprints were all over the boxes in the 6th floor. he was a hitman for lbj. he had done two murders at least in the past. he was one of the shooters. others were mafia from europe.

secret service was ordered to stand down.

dallas police were in on it but it was a cia/fbi job. ruby was part of the organization as well as oswald but he did not know he was the patsy till it went down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49158371


I wont disagree with any of that, except to say fbi weren't in the loop? from what I gathered anyway it was secret service who took the body of the original doctor assigned to the autopsy? secret service took all the evidence that was collected at the autopsy? bottom line is Oswald was a patsy yes? the only real evidence that can be believed is the witness reports, it was witnessed(and photographed) secret service holding a rifle (which they denied) and the guy holding the gun had only been in secret service for a few months(he was polishing cars for secret service in that time) and as I said before, the secret service was up bar hopping till 5am that day, all except the guy holding the gun. forget his name sorry, he died 5 years ago, hence the story is published again, he had been using high priced lawyers to sue any1 who accused him of the death, even though all the evidence says he did it
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i have many books that i have read as well as spoken to eyewitnesses. my grandmother also knew lbj as they were classmates. he would do anything to be president. he was a criminal plain and simple. was tied to billy sol estes in texas...

read "TEXAS IN THE MORNING" BY MADELINE BROWN whom was lbj's mistress and she had a son by him whom lbj never claimed. she tells that there was a meeting at clint murcisons home the night before the murder. at the meeting was lbj, hoover, nixon, and many others including her.
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Re: JFK: the smoking gun documetary
Hey OP

This documentary was shown here last night & I agree it does seem to make sense.
The fact that there is an actual photo of the agent holding the gun definitely backs up this theory !

Also it doesn't argue with regards to the actual assassination plot or Oswald's part in it, it just focuses on the 'Kill Shot' & the chaos afterwards.
It was interesting anyway & does explain a lot of confusing facts !!

*The SS agent's name was 'Hickey' (??)





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