Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3 and the Branch

So PJ to continue with my last post in discussing the points you sought to include in your contention with those who fail to agree with your concept of scripture and its meaning of purpose.

I would first like to expound somewhat more on the concepts of the flesh/soul/spirit portion of the elementary routes of the element make-ups of man's image.

An image far from the make-up of any other created aspect within the dimensional realms of eternal space and interminable ages. Thus, even far superior than the angelic realms, or of the hierarchy of the archangels of principality. And thereof even above the Cherubs who guard the dwelling place of the Most High. For mankind unlike their predecessors was beings formed and created in the very image of their creator.

Thus man's spirit portions, of his spirit form, of their soul/body make-up, projects the greater expression of their creator. And therein rest its greater attributes of expressing, its creator, and his image.

Thus, PJ you expressed a desire to know in an earlier post how Elijah's spirit could be of the make-up of that of John's. And thus, where was then John's spirit or Elijah's spirit gone from him as well.

Allow me to express my beliefs on this matter and the Word seems not to contradict this observation. But perhaps reinforces its meaning.

Although man holds within himself the image of his creator/God. Nevertheless, not on the same scale that God possess; yet it's a factor we must consider.

Now in the fleshly form I know we are not omnipotent(all powerful. Nether in the from of our soul we are not omniscient (all knowing). Nevertheless however, we hold some powers within ourselves in different forms; whether in physical strength, courage, self-determination, or comprehension/discernment. And of course intellectually to a degree, some more than others.

Yet, these attributes consist of the elements within that of only the two lower basis of man's structure. Yet, the higher form of man's image is known the least about. You know the [flesh] is the make-up of many aspect of its being, such as a fleshly heart, a fleshly brain, lungs etc. The [soul] in the operational field of our thoughts, emotions, reasoning's, responses etc.

However, the mystery of its own conundrum is that of the [spirit] of man's make-up. Some claim it is the make-up of emotions..not true. Thus, all who sought God in prayer if they would only express emotions their request would be answered. For I contend that all answered prayers are procured through this portion [spirit] of man's being.

Yet God is not moved through emotions, nether weeping of tears, or any form of manipulation...but through faith is his pleasure! Nothing more, nothing less. For without faith it is impossible to please God (Heb.11:16KJV)!

Thus, I contend the [spirit] of man holds the highest order of God's image/attributes and through these attributes we can express our creator's order of display. For it is my belief that it is through our spirit portion of our being we might operate in the spiritual (supernatural) realm. Thus we receive the miracles we seek, promises gained, powers displayed, waters upon to walk, and wills performed even as often as we like/will(Rev.6:11KJV).

Thus, I believe the scripture's reveals that the spirit has the ability to display a form of omnipresent. Not every place all at once but a partial omnipresent of its creator.

Consider a spirit of man standing in a room full of mirrors, beholding the reflections of its own spirit form. Thus, the mirrors could hold only a limited number of such forms; not omnipresent in its manner, but a small portion of an omnipresent of itself.

Thus if it be the desire of the creator to send one of these forms outside its placement it would not take from that spirit form any of its own attributes, but all those spirit would remain a reflection of its own-self.

Thus, the spirit of Elijah entering the body of John would not take from Enoch nor from John; having that same reflection of its same self attributes in the personage of both men, within the reflection of itself!

Thus, in the same manner it's toward Enoch's spirit and one of the witnesses' for the end days. This manner of display cannot be accomplished by any other entity but man. For none other is made in his creator's image.

Not even Satan can accompany this task, he cannot project himself at two places at once; for he's not made in the image of God/the creator! Therefore, his cohorts must do his bidding.

I once explained this to another individual who is much more advanced than me in computer adroitness. And he explain this is the principle reason for the C-5-6 microchip. That once they are placed within a computer (a beast) capable of maintaining these microchips. Then will Satan have the ability to be at many places at once. Thus, producing the abomination of desolation to come!

I will cease at this point and answer in another post to come some of the direct charges and accusation you (PJ) have made against me in your previous post.

S-wordlike.

Well PJ I did intend to respond to your accusations against me. But as I returned to your comments about "What S-wordlike wrote" it dawned upon me I pretty well answered most of your questions already.

I don't think I actually realized how superficial you actually were in your understanding scripture and void of discerning simple comprehension until I began reading your responses to my post.

Actually you have no concept of the body/soul/spirit of mankind's make-up and what it consist of.

Apparently from reading your statement you believe God's spirit is the portion that is of man's spirit. And I am assuming your reasoning consist of the soul of man and the spirit are the same dual make-up of the element within the flesh of an individual. In other-words you believe the soul and spirit of man is one of the same.

Wow! No wonder you consist of confusing statements and baffling beliefs in your post. If you haven't even the basic concept toward understanding man in his creators image; and doesn't even hold the same example of that same image as that of his creator, in body/soul (mind)/ and spirit. You would have a tendency to have a misconception of the bigger picture of a myriad of things relating to scripture.

God's Spirit doesn't live in man's body! He may dwell therein if invited. But he is never invited in the lives of nonbelievers. Yet, like all men they all have a spirit of their own, as well as a soul and a body. God's spirit can never constitute man's spirit within himself.

The only difference for the believer is the non-believer's spirit is asleep and will remain so throughout his/her life unless awakened by the grace of our Lord. Whereas, in the life of the believer it is awakened. Not just for the lone purpose to being awake but in the hope of awakening those who remain asleep!

This is the reason Enoch in the Ethiopian version of the Book of (1 Enoch.39:6) in Enoch's visitation to heaven he declares:

(1 Enoch.39:6) And in that place mine eyes saw the Elect One of righteousness and faith.

Now, we must pause here for a moment to dispel what most have always been taught and believed. That the Elect One is always talking about Jesus Christ! Well, no, not really!

First of all Jesus could never be considered the Elect One. For as Enoch will reveal later in his book within the passages. The elect were at one time of a sinful nature, and thus also, so would have been the Elect One. Jesus never had a sinful nature, and was neither born into this world with such a nature. For unlike all others, all mankind were blood-born subjects to their Father after sin. For their Father Satan had a claim to everyone through the fall of Adam to the bondage of sin.

Nevertheless, Jesus was not subject to a fleshly bondage but born after the spirit and came forth a free man from his Father of Righteousness.

So Jesus could never be categorized as the Elect One. For of all the endeavors he undertook either in his earthly conquest or the heavenly realm, Jesus as the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God. He was never elected to do anything. He chose to be our savior, not elected to be. He chose to give his life for us, not because he was elected to do so. He did all that he did by his own choosing and decisions. Not as someone elected to some office. Jesus is a King not someone Elected!

Thus, that Elect One, that servant, in (Isa.42:1KJV) is not the Father speaking of his Son Jesus, as men of little understanding has taught other foolish men. But Jesus is speaking about his spiritual son his loyal servant.

How do we know that it is Jesus speaking and declaring his servant and not the Father speaking about Jesus. Because the word declares who it is that is speaking about his Elect One and who it is that is speaking in the following verses

The Word declares it is Jesus speaking about this servant, his Elect One, and the purpose of that Elect One/servant in the end days, throughout chapters (Isa.40-49KJV).

Thus to make it understandable, the Word declares the speaker as the following individual:

The one who is the King of Jacob (Isa41:21KJV).
The Holy one of Israel, thy savior (Isa 43:3KJV).
The Lord your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel (Isa.43:14KJV).
I am the Lord your Holy One of Israel, Your King (Isa. 43:15KJV).
Thus, saith the Lord, thy Redeemer and that formed thee from the womb, I am the lord that makes all things, that stretches forth the heavens alone: that spreads abroad the earth by myself (Isa.44:24KJV).

Now all theses verses and different passages speaks clearly as to this one being called the Redeemer; (Only Jesus has that title (Redeemer), for he alone paid the price. This one speaking claims to be the creator of all things, and stretched out the heavens and spread abroad the earth by himself This is the one who is called the Word who came in the flesh. Even the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

Even the Word was in the beginning and he created all things, even/only Jesus (John 1:1-14KJV). The king of Jacob/Israel, only Jesus holds that title. The Word seeks to make it clear the speaker here is not the Father but the Son (Jesus) who is declaring his Elect One.

YET, TO MAKE IT EVEN CLEARER JESUS ALSO DECLARES HIS ELECT ONE, SERVANT, HIDDEN ONE IN (ISA.49:2KJV). AND THAT HE HAS HID HIM IN THE SHADOW OF HIS HAND(work). Making it very clear that of the Godhead only Jesus has the ability to cast a shadow to hid someone. Because of the trinity only Jesus consist of the bodily make-up of flesh and bone after his resurrection; and thus able to cast a shadow. And these passages are speaking of a distant future at the time of its writings and an end time happening.

Now we know according to scripture, the Word cannot contradict itself. Thus, the Word declares that God the Father of lights has no shadow, neither a shadow of turning (James.1:17KJV) For the Father is of Spirit and light and thus is not able to cast shadows, neither that of the Holy Spirit because again he is of spirit and not of flesh.

So according to scripture there is an Elect, hidden, servant hidden for the end days; but it isn't Jesus. And no man can see him or understand his coming or those that be with him until the daytime (light of revelation), (2 Esdras.13:52KJV). And who can see what Jesus has hidden. And who has helped concealed this evidence from those uninformed. Men of tradition and false understandings; claiming to know not what they themselves cannot see within God's Word.

So Enoch in his vision sought to understand and desired the placement the Elect one was seated. And Enoch sought to rest in that place and dwell beneath that lofty place beneath the wings of the Lord of spirits even the (Most High).

Now what Enoch saw was a high place of order; a dwelling therein by on who is called the Elect One, the son of man, the chosen one, the righteous one, the hidden one. And Enoch desired that place. Now Enoch knew this was not the seating place of one of the Godhead's for in so knowing he would never sought such a position. But he knew that it was the highest order of a mortal man. The preeminent one amongst the chosen, called, patriots and the saints of God, who would rule in his age (1 Enoch.39:6).

Enoch was promised a portion of where that man sat. Enoch could not understand how he could be given a portion of that which he so desired. But later Enoch when he ask who was that son of man, he was told it was himself.

Now what Enoch was told is the it was himself setting in that lofty place and he was that man he had beheld. Although Enoch would one day fulfill that position (portion) in part, as was promised to him. Enoch could not understand, he was in part beholding himself but in/of his spirit only. He didn't recognize the body or the soul of that man therein upon that throne. For it was that Enoch to come forth for the end days and show himself that he was beholding and he didn't recognize the facial features, for only that one’s spirit was of Enoch.

S-wordlike.

What’s the difference between a Jacob and an Israel? An Israel is and always was a firstborn....a Jacob is a second born whose name is changed to Israel and receives the firstborn blessing of the birthright. A Jacob started out as a second born....Israel’s started out as first borns and remain unchanged ......that is what the grafting in of the second born is about....you have to have a firstborn and a separate second born who will both have dominion.....Adam was never a Jacob/second born who had to have a name change to become a firstborn Israel as he already was an Israel. It’s the second borns who need the name change to become Israel’s not the actual firstborns as they already have that title. The problem the firstborns have is they don’t know the second borns get the birthright in order to have dominion over the priesthood on earth.....firstborns are kings ....second borns use the birthright to be the earthly high priest in order to bring salvation to the jues and armeghedon gentiles during the millennium.....but that is for another time at a future date in another realm...lol....til then have a good journey.


Ezekiel 37:22:

And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.......you can’t have 2 kingdoms/two families/two nations without having 2 representatives ......and with the reunification one representative isn’t going to take the other representatives dominion....because one representative is the king and the other representative is the high priest therefore when the reunification happens both representative will keep their dominion only the reunification will allow them to have dominion over both kingdoms...one king and the other high priest.


Until you realize there are 2 Israel’s ....a firstborn israel and a second born Jacob whose name is changed to Israel then your understanding will be stunted because Jesus is not only king of the firstborn but also of the second born.....which the volume of the book is about the separation and reunification of the firstborn Israel and second born Jacob whose name will be changed to Israel ....to bring forth the unification/marriage of the two kingdoms/families/representatives to make the two to become one.

In a marriage/unification who receives the name change? The feminine as the masculine already has the name. The kingship is the spiritual masculine...the priesthood is the spiritual feminine...The spiritual masculine is the firstborn...the spiritual feminine is the second born. Therefore Jacob the 2nd born is the spiritual feminine as Jacob gets the name change and uses the birthright to have dominion over the spiritual feminine position of the priesthood.




Ask yourself if you were the representative of one of the two kingdoms and the reunification was happening would you say to the other representative take my dominion and I’ll just become one of your subjects? No one would give up a kingdom given to them and give all dominion to another. If they do then they never respected the privilege of having the dominion they were given.





Last Edited by waterman on 02/07/2021 10:23 AM

Does the Truth matter most to you

or does something matter more?

You have been banned from the OP of this thread from posting on his threads.

Why do men so obsess on their own dates, every one of which passes as nothing they ever say?

Jesus never told us to look for any date for any reason

but they think they prove themselves Jesus-truer by setting dates?

Setting dates for what?

They never say what will happen.

What Cliff? The Rapture?

I hope so!

Again...

But that would mean you know what He says no one will know,

you know?

in your assertation that it is ME instead of YOU yourself who is ignorant of Holy Scripture I will ask those who have read my words on this thread if they have ever experienced me as ignorant of Holy Scripture while at the same time you as truth-speaking and knowledgeable about what Holy Scripture reveals.

PJ I will not speak against you but I will not stand with you

as you being ignorant I would hope not - I am glad you seek that which eye has not seen - I feel that toward S-wordlike as well

Seekers of that not seen with hope of that which comes from heaven - our Lord Jesus Christ

PJ you and RML speak to me and try to speak into me that all have fallen away - all

Seems as if RML sees you as the source of truth as the one witness called for this day

Like all souls you will stand and defend that which you see to be truth

PJ answer this Bible question for me

Revelation 4:11 - KJV
11. Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Thou are worthy, O Lord

Revelation 4:2 - KJV
2. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Who is sitting on this throne ?

Revelation 5:2-4 - KJV
2. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3. And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

no man was found worthy to open the seals of the scroll

PJ give me your understanding as the one and only one at this moment walking in the truth of Heaven - the one from the North country chosen to be the voice of truth for the World at this time

Blessings

Blessings to my brother S-wordlike as you seek your way in the midst of much understanding of a life given to seeking prayer and one who walks with much understanding of the Holy Way

Blessings

False.

Jesus Christ did not say this.

These are your words.

Does the Truth matter to you at all?

Is there any Truth in you?


Or are you very hostile to the Truth

and you ban it

and remove it

because The Truth

is not you or what you say

as you know.

Your malignant narcissism ego grandeur pride is literally delusional.

Cliff,

You are Me, Me, Me, Me, Me.

Your point is not Him.

Your Point is You.

That is of the very Spirit of Antichrist, Cliff.


For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.'

Isaiah 14:13,14





Cliff,

Repent of your evil pride.

What a demon you are.

You remove truth and ban me for it

and then say:

Cliff,

There is True and there is False.

There is Good and there is Evil.

Should God just keep forgiving your bullshit in His Name?

Do you mock God to His Face?

Do you spit in contempt at The God of Truth?

There is no possible way

that you can say

you removed my posts

because you serve Truth

or because you serve God

and you know it.

Repent.

False.

Jesus Christ did not say this.

You said this.

Thus sayeth you.

8:04 PM
Sunday, February 21, 2021 (GMT+2)
Time in Jerusalem, Israel

...

Cliff,

Do you not understand anything I say to you?

Do you deny anything I say to you?

Cliff,

Before our Lord Jesus Christ,

by your own words or silence,

have I wronged you or spoken only truth to you?

Come now, let us reason together.

You have been banned from the OP of this thread from posting on his threads.




Do you have any idea how many times you have also done this before?

Every single time.



Please.

Find the integrity before God to be honest and truthful before men

and engage in reasonable discussion of what you say

or never return.

Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Jude 1:3



You have nothing more.