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Anonymous Coward User ID: 738920 United States 11/06/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I reveiwed the 13 part summery posted on the other thread. Still digesting it abit seems good to me at this point. Much more imagery than I imagined there were parts I had taken literally that were explained well. Quoting: ByFaithAlone This part of his work - The rider on the pale horse is explained to be Death, with Hell following him. Why is he Death if not because he rides in the time of the night during which nobody should be able to work, as Jesus said? In Zech 1:8 we read about the angel of the Lord that he stood among the myrtle-trees, even though it is said that it was seen in the night (Zech 1:8). The Lord's angel stood but the rider of the pale horse kept moving. What Zech 1 reveals I will expound later at its due place in my exposition. The fourth part that the pale horse rider was given power over is the Lutheran faith and church(es), for the Lutheran churches make up about one fourth of the fallen away Christendom. The rider is therefore Martin Luther, and that will be proven in more detail as we go on in our survey. The sword that killed was the letter of Scripture, for when it is not truthfully expounded and understood it kills souls. The hunger meant is that when falsehood and twistings of Scripture is what feed people they will die of spiritual starvation. The death meant is spiritual death, for whoever is deceived is indeed spiritually dead. The beasts on earth are every single false teacher and teacher of Lutheranism, i.e. all of them, for they ride in the night and are not seen by people because of the spiritual darkness. This gave me the most uneasy sense of anything. I had read at one point that the vast majority of the conversion that he made was done at night by candlelight and towards the end of the transcription there were times when some believe him to have been "delusional" Seeing spirits and such like a hallucination. This seems to mesh with that understanding that he started out well but was never able to fully break free of the lies. I am sorry...where are you getting this? RockyMtnLady It was somewhere in my apologetic studies let me see if i can dig something up to support it. Im thinking it may have been a discussion at one point from christian research institute I heard on the radio. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I reveiwed the 13 part summery posted on the other thread. Still digesting it abit seems good to me at this point. Much more imagery than I imagined there were parts I had taken literally that were explained well. Quoting: ByFaithAlone This part of his work - The rider on the pale horse is explained to be Death, with Hell following him. Why is he Death if not because he rides in the time of the night during which nobody should be able to work, as Jesus said? In Zech 1:8 we read about the angel of the Lord that he stood among the myrtle-trees, even though it is said that it was seen in the night (Zech 1:8). The Lord's angel stood but the rider of the pale horse kept moving. What Zech 1 reveals I will expound later at its due place in my exposition. The fourth part that the pale horse rider was given power over is the Lutheran faith and church(es), for the Lutheran churches make up about one fourth of the fallen away Christendom. The rider is therefore Martin Luther, and that will be proven in more detail as we go on in our survey. The sword that killed was the letter of Scripture, for when it is not truthfully expounded and understood it kills souls. The hunger meant is that when falsehood and twistings of Scripture is what feed people they will die of spiritual starvation. The death meant is spiritual death, for whoever is deceived is indeed spiritually dead. The beasts on earth are every single false teacher and teacher of Lutheranism, i.e. all of them, for they ride in the night and are not seen by people because of the spiritual darkness. This gave me the most uneasy sense of anything. I had read at one point that the vast majority of the conversion that he made was done at night by candlelight and towards the end of the transcription there were times when some believe him to have been "delusional" Seeing spirits and such like a hallucination. This seems to mesh with that understanding that he started out well but was never able to fully break free of the lies. Do you mean Luther's conversion experience? I am sorry.....I misunderstood you!!! :-) Love your comments/feedback! RockyMtnLady |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 This thread just scroll down abit the post is one huge summery of teachings. Thread: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! (Page 556) Wow! That is not a post, it's a novella! I will have to read it later! deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 This thread just scroll down abit the post is one huge summery of teachings. Thread: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! (Page 556) Wow! That is not a post, it's a novella! I will have to read it later! lol. RockyMtnLady |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 738920 United States 11/06/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I reveiwed the 13 part summery posted on the other thread. Still digesting it abit seems good to me at this point. Much more imagery than I imagined there were parts I had taken literally that were explained well. Quoting: ByFaithAlone This part of his work - The rider on the pale horse is explained to be Death, with Hell following him. Why is he Death if not because he rides in the time of the night during which nobody should be able to work, as Jesus said? In Zech 1:8 we read about the angel of the Lord that he stood among the myrtle-trees, even though it is said that it was seen in the night (Zech 1:8). The Lord's angel stood but the rider of the pale horse kept moving. What Zech 1 reveals I will expound later at its due place in my exposition. The fourth part that the pale horse rider was given power over is the Lutheran faith and church(es), for the Lutheran churches make up about one fourth of the fallen away Christendom. The rider is therefore Martin Luther, and that will be proven in more detail as we go on in our survey. The sword that killed was the letter of Scripture, for when it is not truthfully expounded and understood it kills souls. The hunger meant is that when falsehood and twistings of Scripture is what feed people they will die of spiritual starvation. The death meant is spiritual death, for whoever is deceived is indeed spiritually dead. The beasts on earth are every single false teacher and teacher of Lutheranism, i.e. all of them, for they ride in the night and are not seen by people because of the spiritual darkness. This gave me the most uneasy sense of anything. I had read at one point that the vast majority of the conversion that he made was done at night by candlelight and towards the end of the transcription there were times when some believe him to have been "delusional" Seeing spirits and such like a hallucination. This seems to mesh with that understanding that he started out well but was never able to fully break free of the lies. Do you mean Luther's conversion experience? I am sorry.....I misunderstood you!!! :-) Love your comments/feedback! RockyMtnLady Found something about it here down in the section titled Translating the Truth- [link to christianity.about.com] Seems this is something he reported himself and I remember the account that he was deeply affected by depression and such that seemed to worsen the farther into translation that he got. It was not something that was that heavy on him before he was moved to start the project. This reports the ink stain on the wall where he threw a bottle at the wall next to his desk [link to www.redeemer-lutheran.net] |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27740981 United States 11/06/2013 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady What part is outrageous? It's a very long thread. Thanks! |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? deplorably republican |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady What part is outrageous? It's a very long thread. Thanks! PehJeshuah is one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3. RockyMtnLady |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 738920 United States 11/06/2013 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? Unfortunatly I think that is exactly what it was intended to mean. This is what made me so very uneasy and farther up above the statement I quoted he speaks of a massive falling away such that no man on earth, in heaven or under the earth are qualified to open the seals. |
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User ID: 47704496 Canada 11/06/2013 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This part of his work - The rider on the pale horse is explained to be Death, with Hell following him. " If the seals are prophecy like the metal statue in Da:2 is then later chapters expand on what that means, just like how it is done in Daniel. The seals can be meshed with the coals from heaven and the trumps that follow. Seal #1 is the rider and the white horse. The rider is god and the Holy Spirit is the white horse and the ride is the start of the day that only God knows. That day starts with some prophecy that must unfold first and the method of doing that is by Jesus, the angel with the coals and that would be the sealing of the 144,000 and the two witnesses and the ones that can be counted in the temple in Re:11. Isa:49:2: And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; Seal #2 is connected with the 1st trump and combine with seals 2 and 3 they use a total of 4 days. The red sword is a reference to the sword in Romans:13 that was left with the leaders of the Nations to protect the people from evil, when it is used against those same people it is evil and in Revelation red is Satan's color. Seal 3 is hoarding of food by the government and if you don't have their blessing you will die of starvation over the next few years. That is the same with wormwood, it comes on the 4th day but men still die from it 3 1/2 years later. At the end of the 4th trump the world is under Martial Law. The 4th seal is death and hell, hell is the 5 months the 1st woe takes to unfold and from when the 5th trump sounds there is 1260 days until the return on the day the 7th trump sounds. Death is the 6th trump and 1/3 of mankind dies in the 1110 days that remain of a 42 month period where the 5 months of the 5th trump are subtracted. Seal 5 are souls of people named in the Bible that have died, they wan vengeance and are told to wait until the last servants of God are killed. The event that goes with that is the 6th trump as when it sounds it is the start of the 2nd woe, their resurrection is is at the end of the 2nd woe and the destruction of sinners is the event that happens in just a few hours on the day the two are resurrected. Seal 6 is a reference to all of re:16 and the pouring of the vials, when that is done no sinners are alive anyplace on the planet, in the few hours that follow that all resurrections that need to be done are finished so the population that will be alive for the 1,000 years is alive and in the same condition Jesus was on the morning of His resurrection. Jesus went to heaven to be glorified, men well come to Jerusalem and the river in Eze:47 to be glorified. Seal 7 stops what seal 6 starts. Re:16:17: And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. Re:16:18: And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. Re:16:19: And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Re:16:20: And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. Re:16:21: And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. Last Edited by MHz on 11/06/2013 08:30 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? ByFaithAlone has it right. It is a sad sad state of affairs but I have chills right now. I feel like my brothers and sisters are awakening. Praise Be to God Almighty! RockyMtnLady |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: rockymtnlady bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady What part is outrageous? It's a very long thread. Thanks! PehJeshuah is one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.3. RockyMtnLady Why do you say that? Many reasons. God led me to the everlasting gospel that he put together from Scripture and I sobbed. Much has been revealed to me by that article. Additionally, I have tested him w/ Scripture and witnessed him defeat people with Scripture on his thread. As Scripture states, God has given him has "seven" spiritual eyes that can read souls. He can read intentions. He is very humble but HATES falsehood. He and his brother are here to fight it since the Apostolic church has fallen away. Please pray about this. RockyMtnLady |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2783420 United States 11/06/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What thread is this on? I got my doubts about what you quoted. Good discernment on your part! Quoting: bigD111 bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? Now, you understand what is meant by Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. God wants His people out of the fallen away church. RockyMtnLady |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: rockymtnlady bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? ByFaithAlone has it right. It is a sad sad state of affairs but I have chills right now. I feel like my brothers and sisters are awakening. Praise Be to God Almighty! RockyMtnLady I am feeling like the guy who walked in on the end of a conversation! deplorably republican |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you say that? Many reasons. God led me to the everlasting gospel that he put together from Scripture and I sobbed. Much has been revealed to me by that article. Additionally, I have tested him w/ Scripture and witnessed him defeat people with Scripture on his thread. As Scripture states, God has given him has "seven" spiritual eyes that can read souls. He can read intentions. He is very humble but HATES falsehood. He and his brother are here to fight it since the Apostolic church has fallen away. Please pray about this. RockyMtnLady I have never heard of him, so I will check him out. I saw the post was from Norway, is this him, or just someone posting info from Norway? deplorably republican |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: rockymtnlady bigD111, Test PehJeshuah with Scripture every which way you can think. You will see he is true. Although outrageous to believe, it is so. RockyMtnLady Interesting. I will. Just wondering aloud here. Does the reference to the Lutherans include all protestant religions? It would make sense to me that it does. Comments? Now, you understand what is meant by Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. God wants His people out of the fallen away church. RockyMtnLady Yes. deplorably republican |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 738920 United States 11/06/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Quoting: PehJeshuah 47062989 All these preachers are false and of the Antichrist! [link to www.forgottenword.org] Greetings from PehJeshuah Dear you, Let me remind you of it again since it does not yet seem to have sunk into your mind as biblical reality in spite of it being so, namely that: 1) The Antichrist is no one person but all false preachers put together who have corrupted the Bible's true gospel and set up their own fallacies instead of the truth. (2 John 1:7) 2) The Devil wants people to believe that the Antichrist will soon come instead of realizing that the Antichrist has already been at work for more than a thousand years. 3) The true witnesses of God will do their work only after the given time period of the Antichrist, not during it, but still before the great tribulation comes. Let nobody deceive you, for what I tell you is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Starting to test so I will throw my thoughts up here for where I have been directed so this can begin to be tested. The statement in the verse above that the antichrist is no one person gives me pause. I have always believed that it was 2 fold concerning end times that there was a spirit side of it, but that in the last days one would rise above all. There are just very few passages to pull from for as important a figure as this ends up being so I will place my findings here. They are in no way all inclusive nor do I claim authority over anything. Mark them simply as observations placed on a table for ones awareness. The beginnings of the book of Daniel contain the only manuscripts that were originally written in native Chaldean dialect. Those are the people spoken of along with King Nebekenezer. Hidden within the tests when translated from native dialect Daniel 11:38 literally translates to God of Fortress and War. The original King James translates it at forces while the new king james adheres to the original dialect But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Notice the tone of this the fact the context, once you pay attention, tells you this is a title while every single translation I can find refuses to honor the capitalization. One chapter before Daniel 10:13 Names the Prince of Persia- But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now this is where it begins to get interesting and the verses will tie together inside revelation. The title prince of persia when rendered in arabic actually translates to Allah Mahoziem. Alla/Allah. There is a particular quranic verse Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena! S. 3:54 cf. 8:30 that is of interest here. In english this means Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers S. 3:54 cf.8:30 The great deceiver is one of his 99 names openly stated many times throughout the Quran. Root word to look for is Makr. So we are left with Mahoziem meaning fortress and war God of fortress and war The original verse again to tie it in-Daniel 11:38-But in their place he shall honor A GOD OF FORTRESSES; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Daniel 11 translated from the chaldaen texts literally means god of fortress and war or Alla Mahoziem. This is who the arch angel Michael went to war with in chapter 10 verse 13. It is interesting at this point many bibles will put in a reference mark immediately after Michael's name for Revelation 12:7 where Michael and his angels fought the dragon. |
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User ID: 39191150 United States 11/06/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Quoting: PehJeshuah 47062989 All these preachers are false and of the Antichrist! [link to www.forgottenword.org] Greetings from PehJeshuah Dear you, Let me remind you of it again since it does not yet seem to have sunk into your mind as biblical reality in spite of it being so, namely that: 1) The Antichrist is no one person but all false preachers put together who have corrupted the Bible's true gospel and set up their own fallacies instead of the truth. (2 John 1:7) 2) The Devil wants people to believe that the Antichrist will soon come instead of realizing that the Antichrist has already been at work for more than a thousand years. 3) The true witnesses of God will do their work only after the given time period of the Antichrist, not during it, but still before the great tribulation comes. Let nobody deceive you, for what I tell you is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Starting to test so I will throw my thoughts up here for where I have been directed so this can begin to be tested. The statement in the verse above that the antichrist is no one person gives me pause. I have always believed that it was 2 fold concerning end times that there was a spirit side of it, but that in the last days one would rise above all. There are just very few passages to pull from for as important a figure as this ends up being so I will place my findings here. They are in no way all inclusive nor do I claim authority over anything. Mark them simply as observations placed on a table for ones awareness. The beginnings of the book of Daniel contain the only manuscripts that were originally written in native Chaldean dialect. Those are the people spoken of along with King Nebekenezer. Hidden within the tests when translated from native dialect Daniel 11:38 literally translates to God of Fortress and War. The original King James translates it at forces while the new king james adheres to the original dialect But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Notice the tone of this the fact the context, once you pay attention, tells you this is a title while every single translation I can find refuses to honor the capitalization. One chapter before Daniel 10:13 Names the Prince of Persia- But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now this is where it begins to get interesting and the verses will tie together inside revelation. The title prince of persia when rendered in arabic actually translates to Allah Mahoziem. Alla/Allah. There is a particular quranic verse Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena! S. 3:54 cf. 8:30 that is of interest here. In english this means Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers S. 3:54 cf.8:30 The great deceiver is one of his 99 names openly stated many times throughout the Quran. Root word to look for is Makr. So we are left with Mahoziem meaning fortress and war God of fortress and war The original verse again to tie it in-Daniel 11:38-But in their place he shall honor A GOD OF FORTRESSES; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Daniel 11 translated from the chaldaen texts literally means god of fortress and war or Alla Mahoziem. This is who the arch angel Michael went to war with in chapter 10 verse 13. It is interesting at this point many bibles will put in a reference mark immediately after Michael's name for Revelation 12:7 where Michael and his angels fought the dragon. Fascinating! You are deep kiddo! I like it! lol deplorably republican |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 738920 United States 11/06/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, Quoting: PehJeshuah 47062989 All these preachers are false and of the Antichrist! [link to www.forgottenword.org] Greetings from PehJeshuah Dear you, Let me remind you of it again since it does not yet seem to have sunk into your mind as biblical reality in spite of it being so, namely that: 1) The Antichrist is no one person but all false preachers put together who have corrupted the Bible's true gospel and set up their own fallacies instead of the truth. (2 John 1:7) 2) The Devil wants people to believe that the Antichrist will soon come instead of realizing that the Antichrist has already been at work for more than a thousand years. 3) The true witnesses of God will do their work only after the given time period of the Antichrist, not during it, but still before the great tribulation comes. Let nobody deceive you, for what I tell you is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Starting to test so I will throw my thoughts up here for where I have been directed so this can begin to be tested. The statement in the verse above that the antichrist is no one person gives me pause. I have always believed that it was 2 fold concerning end times that there was a spirit side of it, but that in the last days one would rise above all. There are just very few passages to pull from for as important a figure as this ends up being so I will place my findings here. They are in no way all inclusive nor do I claim authority over anything. Mark them simply as observations placed on a table for ones awareness. The beginnings of the book of Daniel contain the only manuscripts that were originally written in native Chaldean dialect. Those are the people spoken of along with King Nebekenezer. Hidden within the tests when translated from native dialect Daniel 11:38 literally translates to God of Fortress and War. The original King James translates it at forces while the new king james adheres to the original dialect But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Notice the tone of this the fact the context, once you pay attention, tells you this is a title while every single translation I can find refuses to honor the capitalization. One chapter before Daniel 10:13 Names the Prince of Persia- But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now this is where it begins to get interesting and the verses will tie together inside revelation. The title prince of persia when rendered in arabic actually translates to Allah Mahoziem. Alla/Allah. There is a particular quranic verse Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena! S. 3:54 cf. 8:30 that is of interest here. In english this means Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers S. 3:54 cf.8:30 The great deceiver is one of his 99 names openly stated many times throughout the Quran. Root word to look for is Makr. So we are left with Mahoziem meaning fortress and war God of fortress and war The original verse again to tie it in-Daniel 11:38-But in their place he shall honor A GOD OF FORTRESSES; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Daniel 11 translated from the chaldaen texts literally means god of fortress and war or Alla Mahoziem. This is who the arch angel Michael went to war with in chapter 10 verse 13. It is interesting at this point many bibles will put in a reference mark immediately after Michael's name for Revelation 12:7 where Michael and his angels fought the dragon. Fascinating! You are deep kiddo! I like it! lol Never afraid to go full retard |
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