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Ecclesiastes 2:17-26 (NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have control over all the work into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a man may do his work with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then he must leave all he owns to someone who has not worked for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What does a man get for all the toil and anxious striving with which he labors under the sun? 23 All his days his work is pain and grief; even at night his mind does not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the man who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

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Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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What's your take OP?
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Ecclesiastes 2:17-26 (NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have control over all the work into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a man may do his work with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then he must leave all he owns to someone who has not worked for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What does a man get for all the toil and anxious striving with which he labors under the sun? 23 All his days his work is pain and grief; even at night his mind does not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the man who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
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Every single thing you do, have done, or will do, is all dust in the wind. It's all going to be one big lake of fire, and every single thing you see around you will be burnt up.
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In the end, isn't everything really just meaningless. We are alive but a short time here. When we're gone, we're gone.

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I'm not a religious man, but max stars for pure poetry.
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Ecclesiastes 2:17-26 (NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have control over all the work into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a man may do his work with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then he must leave all he owns to someone who has not worked for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What does a man get for all the toil and anxious striving with which he labors under the sun? 23 All his days his work is pain and grief; even at night his mind does not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the man who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
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Qoheleth

tells us that all is vanity and worthless

everything under the sun (in this world) is pointless

there is no profit

seek God
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What's your take OP?
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On what exactly?
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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"Life is a Journey, not a Destination" "Stop and smell the Roses". Life is a test from my understanding. The path is narrow.

I don't have answers and struggle OP. I am a christian women and I believe but the Satan has my flesh in his hooks with alcohol. It's so hard for me.

Life is depressing for the most part. You work hard for what, shelter, heat, water, food and see no one you love because everyone is doing the same. We need to stop the madness.
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Ecclesiastes 2:17-26 (NIV)

17 So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. 19 And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have control over all the work into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. 20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun. 21 For a man may do his work with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then he must leave all he owns to someone who has not worked for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune. 22 What does a man get for all the toil and anxious striving with which he labors under the sun? 23 All his days his work is pain and grief; even at night his mind does not rest. This too is meaningless. 24 A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the man who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.
 Quoting: CJStryker


Give me debt, give me toil, give me servitude. For I am your slave. In debt my children, In debt me, for I toil for you.

Please for you I toil till I die. Oh thank you, almighty who I spend for, for you are my light.
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"Life is a Journey, not a Destination" "Stop and smell the Roses". Life is a test from my understanding. The path is narrow.

I don't have answers and struggle OP. I am a christian women and I believe but the Satan has my flesh in his hooks with alcohol. It's so hard for me.

Life is depressing for the most part. You work hard for what, shelter, heat, water, food and see no one you love.
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


I am depressed right now as well. Nothing in this life truly has any meaning. It's very clear. Our rewards are in heaven not on earth.
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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this Bible truly is a great Book. even if its a lie as the atheists say, it is still a great Book.

You have absolutely nothing to lose to read and follow its teachings.
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"Life is a Journey, not a Destination" "Stop and smell the Roses". Life is a test from my understanding. The path is narrow.

I don't have answers and struggle OP. I am a christian women and I believe but the Satan has my flesh in his hooks with alcohol. It's so hard for me.

Life is depressing for the most part. You work hard for what, shelter, heat, water, food and see no one you love.
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


I am depressed right now as well. Nothing in this life truly has any meaning. It's very clear. Our rewards are in heaven not on earth.
 Quoting: CJStryker


I do everything for that ONE or TWO or maybe Three times if lucky a year our family gets all together. All the work year round for maybe 8-10 days together total. Serious!
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Highfive. Lot of depressed people on here tonight. Go figure. Lately it has become worse for me, I'm almost paralyzed with it today.

I am trying to be grateful for what I have, but I am just so tired. So tired of the struggle, the pain. I think I have wanted to quit since I was a child.

What I love and seek most is just sleep, but tonight that evades me. How ironic that in many cases the more depressed one becomes, the more sleep becomes disturbed. Like that last little bit of relief has to be snatched away.

Great world.
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I'm afraid of dying.
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Don't be. It's just a transition. Your soul is eternal. You can always reincarnate in a new carbon avatar.
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"Life is a Journey, not a Destination" "Stop and smell the Roses". Life is a test from my understanding. The path is narrow.

I don't have answers and struggle OP. I am a christian women and I believe but the Satan has my flesh in his hooks with alcohol. It's so hard for me.

Life is depressing for the most part. You work hard for what, shelter, heat, water, food and see no one you love.
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


I am depressed right now as well. Nothing in this life truly has any meaning. It's very clear. Our rewards are in heaven not on earth.
 Quoting: CJStryker


I do everything for that ONE or TWO or maybe Three times if lucky a year our family gets all together. All the work year round for maybe 8-10 days together total. Serious!
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


Luke 12:52-59

52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against -- or the other way around. 53 There will be a division between father and son, mother and daughter, mother-in-law and daughter-in-law." 54 Then Jesus turned to the crowd and said, "When you see clouds beginning to form in the west, you say, 'Here comes a shower.' And you are right. 55 When the south wind blows, you say, 'Today will be a scorcher.' And it is. 56 You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky, but you can't interpret these present times. 57 "Why can't you decide for yourselves what is right? 58 If you are on the way to court and you meet your accuser, try to settle the matter before it reaches the judge, or you may be sentenced and handed over to an officer and thrown in jail. 59 And if that happens, you won't be free again until you have paid the last penny."
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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The only thing worth looking for in life is someone to love and share things with. Nothing else matters.
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Highfive. Lot of depressed people on here tonight. Go figure. Lately it has become worse for me, I'm almost paralyzed with it today.

I am trying to be grateful for what I have, but I am just so tired. So tired of the struggle, the pain. I think I have wanted to quit since I was a child.

What I love and seek most is just sleep, but tonight that evades me. How ironic that in many cases the more depressed one becomes, the more sleep becomes disturbed. Like that last little bit of relief has to be snatched away.

Great world.
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I think it's TIME to pick each other up, we need to.
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The only thing worth looking for in life is someone to love and share things with. Nothing else matters.
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Ecclesiastes 9:9-

9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun--all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.

10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all.

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Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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"Life is a Journey, not a Destination" "Stop and smell the Roses". Life is a test from my understanding. The path is narrow.

I don't have answers and struggle OP. I am a christian women and I believe but the Satan has my flesh in his hooks with alcohol. It's so hard for me.

Life is depressing for the most part. You work hard for what, shelter, heat, water, food and see no one you love.
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


I am depressed right now as well. Nothing in this life truly has any meaning. It's very clear. Our rewards are in heaven not on earth.
 Quoting: CJStryker


I do everything for that ONE or TWO or maybe Three times if lucky a year our family gets all together. All the work year round for maybe 8-10 days together total. Serious!
 Quoting: >>Kate<<


Luke 12:52-59

52 From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against -- or the other way around. 53 There will be a division between father and son, mother and daughter, mother-in-law and daughter-in-law." 54 Then Jesus turned to the crowd and said, "When you see clouds beginning to form in the west, you say, 'Here comes a shower.' And you are right. 55 When the south wind blows, you say, 'Today will be a scorcher.' And it is. 56 You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky, but you can't interpret these present times. 57 "Why can't you decide for yourselves what is right? 58 If you are on the way to court and you meet your accuser, try to settle the matter before it reaches the judge, or you may be sentenced and handed over to an officer and thrown in jail. 59 And if that happens, you won't be free again until you have paid the last penny."
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Thanks, always knew each one of us was on our own in this test. We're all brothers and sisters really.
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BTW Kates a hot one...
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Yep. I never understood the "protestant work ethic." They act as if working hard is a virtue, when really getting by is all you need. Jesus Himself told people to throw away their possessions and follow Him. All you need are the necessities, and worldly pleasures are nothing compared to the joy of living in the spirit.
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The only thing worth looking for in life is someone to love and share things with. Nothing else matters.
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Ecclesiastes 9:9-

9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun--all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.

10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all.
 Quoting: CJStryker


I'm a prepper and that's another reason for working so hard for the money to do it. You know somethings fucked trying to do it when you live life lonely trying to achieve this? I want a place for my family to come to when TSHTF. It's that reason why my life is the way it is.
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He said this right before that


Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom,
and also madness and folly.
What more can the king’s successor do
than what has already been done?
13 I saw that wisdom is better than folly,
just as light is better than darkness.
14 The wise have eyes in their heads,
while the fool walks in the darkness;
but I came to realize
that the same fate overtakes them both.
15 Then I said to myself,

“The fate of the fool will overtake me also.
What then do I gain by being wise?”
I said to myself,
“This too is meaningless.”
16 For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered;
the days have already come when both have been forgotten.
Like the fool, the wise too must die!



Hmmm....the awakened ones and the "sheeple" have the same fate .

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I'm afraid of dying.
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Don't worry.

Here's a prayer I like.

Bless us, Oh Lord,
and these thy gifts which
we are about to receive from thy bounty,
through Christ, Our Lord.
Amen.
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Highfive. Lot of depressed people on here tonight. Go figure. Lately it has become worse for me, I'm almost paralyzed with it today.

I am trying to be grateful for what I have, but I am just so tired. So tired of the struggle, the pain. I think I have wanted to quit since I was a child.

What I love and seek most is just sleep, but tonight that evades me. How ironic that in many cases the more depressed one becomes, the more sleep becomes disturbed. Like that last little bit of relief has to be snatched away.

Great world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47738676


It's lonely. But in my 30's not and never married and no kids. Although it hurts when I find and grow to love a woman. About three years is all I can handle for a relationship. I don't get super depressed often. But there are times I get into a stretch of just hopelessness and can't even have feelings of joy, sadness or even anger.

I don't know what causes it. I'm not and never have been on any kind of prescriptions. Eat a variety of real food, veggies, meats, grains, fruits and rice. I don't even drink sodas. Anyways, I always snap out of the stretch in about 8 or 9 days. Doesn't help I've been an crippling, yet functioning alcoholic sine about 2004.

Otherwise, I'm actually a fairly funny guy that's pretty personable and halfway educated. Just thought I'd share. Not matter how one feels, they are far from alone.
-Everything's more awesome when you lean into it.
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wu wei all day.
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The only thing worth looking for in life is someone to love and share things with. Nothing else matters.
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Reading Nothing else matters, instantly this popped into my head. A lot of people just rock out to old Metallica. But this song has some good a meaning.


-Everything's more awesome when you lean into it.
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I have nothing against working hard; I've done it all my life. However, a lot of work is just unnecessary busywork or not as important as some make it out to be. I work at a place that ships craft supplies to stores; we've been working for about 37 days straight now, 10 hour days and 8 on Sundays, to get the Christmas shit out. CRAFT SUPPLIES, fucking craft supplies, we're busting our asses for, not having any time for our friends and family, no time to do chores, go to the grocery store, and no time to relax and recharge-just work, eat, and sleep. And the sleep is not restorative. Complete

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good moody blues song for this:

Evening has come to pass,
The time of day doesn't last.
Evening, has earned its place today,
I'm tired of working away.

Working, living it brings,
Only way to have those things.
Toiling has bought too many tears,
Turn 'round all those past years.

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