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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel, U.S. dispute Iran deal JERUSALEM — The United States vowed Monday it would not cave to Iran in negotiations over the Islamic republic's nuclear program despite charges from Israel and France that negotiators were proposing to let Iran maintain its nuclear capacity. U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro vowed Monday that President Obama would not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons and that the United States would not sign on to a "bad deal" at negotiations with Iran tipped to restart later this month. Speaking at the Jewish Federations of North American General Assembly in Jerusalem, Shapiro drove home his point by repeating it in Hebrew, according to the Jerusalem Post. He said that the U.S. would not "squander" the leverage of Western economic sanctions on Iran, which wants those sanctions removed. Shapiro said that no deal on Iran's atomic program would be better than a bad deal. His comments came as the U.N.'s nuclear chief reached a deal Monday to allow expanded monitoring of Iran's nuclear sites, including at a planned reactor, but not an agreement to dismantle its ability to make material for nuclear weapons as the U.S. Security Council has demanded. U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Monday again defended U.S. efforts with Iran, saying that the major powers were unified on an Iran nuclear deal during weekend talks in Geneva but the Iranians did not accept it. Speaking to reporters in Abu Dhabi, Kerry lashed out at opponents to the proposal. Among them are Israeli Prime MInister Benjamin Netanyahu, who told Kerry on Friday that the proposed deal gave Iran all it wants on sanctions and did nothing to end Iran's ability to make a nuclear bomb. [link to www.usatoday.com] ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement. With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions. All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”. Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.” In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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User ID: 47481032 United States 11/11/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran Quoting: Gypsy Priest Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement. With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions. All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”. Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.” In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44884628 United States 11/11/2013 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran Quoting: Gypsy Priest Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement. With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions. All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”. Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.” In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] I expect we will give them something else and then they will sign. All is good |
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User ID: 47348908 United States 11/11/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA. Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented. Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS. Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press. Last Edited by DawaSatso on 11/11/2013 01:13 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel launches campaign against 'bad deal' with Iran Quoting: Gypsy Priest Israel began a diplomatic onslaught on Sunday aimed at killing off a “bad deal” on Iran’s nuclear programme after Benjamin Netanyahu personally telephoned Western leaders to dissuade them from “rushing” into an agreement. With negotiations between America and Iran set to resume in Geneva on Nov 20, a senior Israeli official said the government would go flat-out “to make our case”. Three days of talks last week came close to producing a “first step agreement”, under which Iran would have limited its nuclear programme in return for some easing of sanctions. All sides acknowledged progress after the meeting between Iran and the five permanent members of the Security Council - America, Britain, France, Russia and China - along with Germany. The Israeli prime minister told his cabinet that he telephoned the leaders of five of these countries - including President Barack Obama and David Cameron - to warn against signing an accord which he labelled “bad and dangerous”. Mr Netanyahu said: “I asked all the leaders: why the haste? I proposed that they wait, that they consider the matter seriously. This is an historic process and these are historic decisions. I asked to wait.” In the end, agreement was not reached during those talks, but William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, said yesterday that a deal remained “on the table” and there was a “good chance” of it being signed at the next meeting. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] I expect we will give them something else and then they will sign. All is good Disagree. Iran is playing the same game that NK plays. ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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User ID: 48442288 France 11/11/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA. Quoting: DawaSatso Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented. Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS. Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press. A week ago, Israeli intelligence leaked stories to the media that Pakistan was to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons... I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | None of those news sources are mentioning legal energy-and medical related use of nuclear products which is in keeping with peaceable use as written by the IAEA. Quoting: DawaSatso Every country in the middle east has this right including Iran..who by the way invite inspections of all development sites, anytime, anywhere. And yet this full cooperation is ignored as yammering goes on. You can't do anything with accusers who ignore factual evidence and cooperation which refutes evidence however clearly and properly presented. Netanyahu is a raging lunatic whose country by the way has never once permitted a single inspection by the IAEA for their 200-400 nuclear WEAPONS. Always the loudest most irrational moran who gets the press. A week ago, Israeli intelligence leaked stories to the media that Pakistan was to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons... ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
godzilla85
User ID: 39330021 United States 11/11/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1869282 That may happen sooner than later. honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago. |
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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1869282 That may happen sooner than later. honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago. ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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User ID: 39330021 United States 11/11/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stall tactics....its working....Obama lifts sanctions secretly. I am willing to wager Israel is near its do or die....strike first Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1869282 That may happen sooner than later. honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago. dont' take it as me wanting war, I always worry for the innocents on both ends. But a rational man with the horrible responsibility that Netanyahu has...would've, should've pulled the trigger long ago, the Iraninan nuclear issue like the North Korean one...should've never been allowed to be dragged out as far as they have been. It's been an abject failure in diplomacy of the first order. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49531916 United Kingdom 11/11/2013 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well if you strip away the whole notion this is P5+1, ahem why is Germany there you'll get to see who is actually running the negotiations, and it is the EU. If you look at the actual signage used in the meetings they are billed as the E3+3 or EU3+3.. i.e the E3 are Britain, France and Germany and the +3 are Russia, China and the USA.. [link to www.youtube.com] The video above is only being used to demonstrate these negotiations are organised and run by the EU. |
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(OP) User ID: 45960123 United States 11/11/2013 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | honestly wish I knew why it hasn't happened, should've happened by now, hell should've happened like ten years ago. dont' take it as me wanting war, I always worry for the innocents on both ends. But a rational man with the horrible responsibility that Netanyahu has...would've, should've pulled the trigger long ago, the Iraninan nuclear issue like the North Korean one...should've never been allowed to be dragged out as far as they have been. It's been an abject failure in diplomacy of the first order. Agreed!! ********Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please******* |
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