Adam and Eves original sin revealed. Connects Buddhism to Christianity.

The original sin was that they had a 3 way with the serpant. That's why genesis uses all the fruit metaphors...they ate the fruit, which contains the seed. Then they got ass fucked by the serpant....that's why Christains are against sodomy...the just don't know why.

that was deep, i must say.

The Original sin is Represented by us partaking in the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.


It is the Knowledge of Procreation.



When we partook in that fruit we gain the power of Procreation.


Enki / Lucifer gave us the Fruit by mating with the first human women and making it so their children could have offspring.



Enki and the others Stopped us from partaking in the Fruit of the Tree of Life.

Because when we eat of it we will have Immortality.


But Jesus wants us to have its Fruit, he showed us the Eucharist and told us to Believe and we would have Eternal Life.

Your understanding of Buddhism is very stark. Like most Weaterners you are too focused on the "voidness" and "detachment" aspects of Buddhism. This only one small part of a bigger picture and a richer, more complex tradition.

Buddhism involves non-attachment but it also involves compassion. It is. It merely frigid removal of the self from the world, but rather on passionate involvement with the world. There is a balance, the so-called "middle way."

Buddhism also has a very strict and complex moral code called the Vinaya. Westerners usually yawn and skip this part because it does not for their preconceptions of Buddhism as an exotic "religion of the void."

"The biggest mistake is to become fixated on 'something-ness.' The second-biggest mistake is to become fixated on 'Nothingness'."
-Old Buddhist saying

"Enlightened activity within the bustle of society is ten-thousand times more profound than enlightened activity on a remote mountaintop."
-Zen saying

I don't think you understand what detachment is. You carry on your life as usual but you are not influenced by anything.

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Having to give my first ever 1 star.

Let us not forget that the Sumerian tablets (Enki) were found by a aledged Freemason. Also, why were they found now and not 1000 years ago?

"We were not designed to clear our mind."

So you don't go to sleep at night?

And who says we were designed? Who designed the designer?

Ahhh yes, the tree of knowledge

Before sin, there is nothing to meditate on is there?

Well, i think we are talking about different things here. Is meditation then being at sleep while awake? Verily, sounds unhealty to me. Think about sleep walking the rest of your life after enlightenment, heh heh. Just a thought, just a playful thought.

OP can you please comment on these passages from the bible?

"This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success." (Joshua 1:8, KJV)

"Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." (Psalms 19:14, KJV)

"I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways." (Psalms 119:15, KJV)

"My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes." (Psalms 119:48, KJV)

meditation

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- to engage in thought or contemplation, reflect
- to engage in transcendental meditation, devout religious contemplation, or quiescent spiritual introspection

So the bible openly condones & reinforces the notion of engaging in this type of spiritual contemplation & reflection and you believe it to be the 'original sin'?

You say, "We were not designed to clear our mind".

Very interesting specially "for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thous shalt have good success."

Thank You

OP, respectfully, I think there is a misunderstanding here that 'meditation' is simply having no thoughts and not thinking. Some people may do that to relax and ease their mind from the burden of 'overthinking' or having repetitive negative thoughts - but 'meditation' at its core is engaging in deep contemplation, reflection, or introspection and about spiritual matters, i.e. matters that transcend (or rise above) the physical self. Identification with the physical self is the source of 'sinful' behavior so if a person is focusing his/her conscious attention on matters relating to the spirit or the spiritual nature of life/existence, he or she is actually distinancing himself/herself from identification with the physical 'self', and thus would be less likely to engage in 'sinful' behavior. It is a beneficial practice if understood in the proper context. Please reconsider your premise with this understanding in mind.

Hate to break it to you guys, but you've wasted your lives pursuing a myth. Look up Mauro Biglinohe was hired by the Vatican to do a direct translation consonant by consonant of the Bible. He finished 17 books before being fired. The original books of the Bible before they were translated numerous times and people over the centuries added their perspective, talk of GodS not god. There was no original sin! Without the original sin there's no need for any savior.

Quit wasting your life following a book written by men with motives. You're better off believing in the Lord of the rings trilogy.

the original sin, the first sin,
was the first act of LIBERTARIANISM

The crafty serpent was the original
Libertarian

Verily, there can be different ways to describe word "meditation" to me it means clearing my mind of all thought. It is a tricky process.

In honor of Sonar Kiergaard's "Fear and Trembling, this is what really went down...


Serpent: Aren't you tired of living in this stupid place? There are a lot more things to eat and do outside these walls of Eden. Plus, this is just socialism and freedom is yours if you think for yourself.

Eve: But I'm a women and future generations will consider it a sin if I think for myself and make an effort to bring joy to my miserable life here with Adam.

Serpent: Your Adam's second wife and you will do a lot of good for future generations if you just eat this apple.

Eve: I'm Adam's second?

Serpent: Ah, yea...he never told you about Lilith?

Eve: (Walks over to Adam) WHO THE FUCK IS LILITH?

Adam: Um, My first wife.

Eve: Well I'm eating this apple so I can get a real man who will get me a steak to eat with my potatoes. I'm tired of eating wheat grass and soy all the time.



I could go on, but you get the point.

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Well I provided above what is accepted as the 'official' definition of the term. If you were to clear your mind of intrusive thoughts and you were to focus your conscious attention directly on contemplating on or reflecting upon the implications of your own spiritual nature/existence - you would be engaging in 'meditation'. This cannot be the 'original sin' that the bible refers to when you find this very practice being condoned and reinforced within the passages found therein.

OP, have you ever been so engrossed in something that you forget the time, you don't think about what else you need to do, the thought of whether what you're doing is wrong or right never enters your head? You just ... are. And it feels a bit timeless?

(This is often experienced by professional athletes, artists, writers, etc.)

This is detachment. This is enlightenment (though most people don't sustain it). This is pure, waking meditation.

Imagine being able to go through your day like that, so in love with every moment you're in, regardless of the situation. So blessed with bliss that you don't need to overthink anything. The proper knowledge is there for you when you need to grasp it, but instead of consuming your brain and fogging up your moments with unnecessary mind chatter, it sits on a shelf in your mind, out of the way until you need it.

I often see such a misunderstanding of the concept of detachment and enlightenment. You're not alone in this.

You don't love things less, you love everything more. Nothing excluded. Everything equal, because you take every moment as a gift. You love everything, and you let everything be exactly what it is.

And most of all, because you're detached and willing to let each moment go in grace, you can love unconditionally. The way Jesus told us to love.

I'm not convinced, but don't refute your claims either. Thank you for your opinion.

Their sin was eating the fruit from a tree they were told by God not to eat from. It was simple. Rebellion, like Lucifer.

I can't convince you. There is nothing to be "convinced" with. Moreover, one person cannot make another person understand using logic and argument. It's in the heart, and in order to experience it you have to be brave, vulnerable, and completely and utterly willing to smash every preconception you have about the world into a million tiny pieces in order to see the perfection in the whole.

I cannot convince you.

But I can promise you that it's there. Whether or not you believe it. Whether or not you know it. It's there. Waiting for you to remember, waiting for you to know the love that IS, or not. It doesn't matter, either way. <3

All religions are bullshit, your brain is god

Silly OP, read "The Cloud of Unknowning", a christian hardcore monastic manual, and you'll see that actually buddhist practice is the same as proper christian practice, with the same goal.

Be very careful, you are insulting Christ's teachings with this post.

Here is an easy way to cure yourself of original sin:


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The original sin became less original, and then even common after they did it.