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Are there any natural cures for depression?

I really don't want to get into the details too much but for the past 2 years I have been trying to save my 17 year old daughter. It hasn't been a continuous 2 years, it has been in episodes, off and on.

I have taken her to 2 counselors, etc, and they all want to put her on meds and I am afraid of the side effects. The one therapist wanted to put her away for two weeks before even giving me a diagnosis. We also talked to the school counselor but that was really no help.

What is causing her depression is self image. She is thin but thinks she is fat. She is 5'5 and 110 lbs. She is also dependent on being accepted by her friends. We are very close. She is beautiful and I'm not saying that because she is mine. She truly is, inside and out. She wants to be a therapist when she is finished school because she wants to help other people like her. She loves people....always trying to help them. She is also my little conspiracy theorist. She is not a threat to others, only herself. She also created a club at her school where she holds weekly meetings for kids that are having issues. How could someone that loves others so much and wants to help them have so much pain herself??

She knows there is a problem. I know there is a problem. We talk about what is bothering her although last night, she shut me out. She told me she doesn't hurt herself because of me. Well, I'm not going to be around forever and I want her to have a wonderful life.

I don't know what to do. My heart is telling me anti-depressants is not the way to go. So I'm asking if anyone knows of any natural remedies to alleviate her depression.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
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St johns wort is a natural anti depressant i think. She is a teenager, take care of her until college then things may pick up when she has new friends and interest to take care of.

Good luck.
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You can try St John's wart, not sure if it's under a different name if America. But seems to have positive results.

Anyhow hope you and her come through it fine.
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St johns wort is a natural anti depressant i think. She is a teenager, take care of her until college then things may pick up when she has new friends and interest to take care of.

Good luck.
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You can try St John's wart, not sure if it's under a different name if America. But seems to have positive results.

Anyhow hope you and her come through it fine.
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My girlfriend has always fought with severe depression, and she's found St. John's helps a TON! It's also cheap, natural, over-the-counter, and much better for you than something like Prozac.
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St johns wort is a natural anti depressant i think. She is a teenager, take care of her until college then things may pick up when she has new friends and interest to take care of.

Good luck.
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You can try St John's wart, not sure if it's under a different name if America. But seems to have positive results.

Anyhow hope you and her come through it fine.
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Thank you both. You both responded at the same time with the same advice. I have off of work today and will get this.
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St johns wort is a natural anti depressant i think. She is a teenager, take care of her until college then things may pick up when she has new friends and interest to take care of.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49571360


You can try St John's wart, not sure if it's under a different name if America. But seems to have positive results.

Anyhow hope you and her come through it fine.
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Thank you both. You both responded at the same time with the same advice. I have off of work today and will get this.
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Hope it works, it may take a while to kick in for a week or so.
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St johns wort is a natural anti depressant i think. She is a teenager, take care of her until college then things may pick up when she has new friends and interest to take care of.

Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49571360


You can try St John's wart, not sure if it's under a different name if America. But seems to have positive results.

Anyhow hope you and her come through it fine.
 Quoting: Bovril


My girlfriend has always fought with severe depression, and she's found St. John's helps a TON! It's also cheap, natural, over-the-counter, and much better for you than something like Prozac.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45581443



Thank you. Another response for St. Johns. I was hesitant to ask on GLP because it's not a conspiracy topic but so many have personal experiences that I knew I would get sound advice.
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Thank you. Another response for St. Johns. I was hesitant to ask on GLP because it's not a conspiracy topic but so many have personal experiences that I knew I would get sound advice.
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I don't personally claim to be educated on clinical depression - I only have my experiences growing up, which I think was not a medical issue but an emotional one. One of the other posters mentioned that when she gets out of high school and into the college or the real world, that will help a lot too. She needs to find what interests her and pursue it with the energy only late teens and early twenty-somethings have. That'll go a LONG way in breaking the depressed mindset. It's hard to find time for depressive self-reflection when you are really busy doing something you enjoy!
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Thank you. Another response for St. Johns. I was hesitant to ask on GLP because it's not a conspiracy topic but so many have personal experiences that I knew I would get sound advice.

 Quoting: NothingFancy

It's hard to find time for depressive self-reflection when you are really busy doing something you enjoy!
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This ^ is the key. She is having one of her episodes where all she wants to do is come home and sleep. She loves animals, I'm going to see today if she can volunteer at the greyhound rescue across the street from school.

If I can keep her mind busy, I believe she will be okay.
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Love her without fail is my only advice. It will work out as it was meant to be.hf
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This ^ is the key. She is having one of her episodes where all she wants to do is come home and sleep. She loves animals, I'm going to see today if she can volunteer at the greyhound rescue across the street from school.

If I can keep her mind busy, I believe she will be okay.
 Quoting: NothingFancy


Heck, I am NOT depressed, and in my early 30's, and all I want to do is come home and sleep too! Fact is, life just doesn't work that way. She sounds like a smart girl though, so I think you have the right idea. Get her some St. John's to take the edge off, and get her doing something she enjoys. She'll find her way from there. Keep her off GLP lol!
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Love her without fail is my only advice. It will work out as it was meant to be.hf
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Thank you.
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This ^ is the key. She is having one of her episodes where all she wants to do is come home and sleep. She loves animals, I'm going to see today if she can volunteer at the greyhound rescue across the street from school.

If I can keep her mind busy, I believe she will be okay.
 Quoting: NothingFancy


Heck, I am NOT depressed, and in my early 30's, and all I want to do is come home and sleep too! Fact is, life just doesn't work that way. She sounds like a smart girl though, so I think you have the right idea. Get her some St. John's to take the edge off, and get her doing something she enjoys. She'll find her way from there. Keep her off GLP lol!
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It's funny you should say that. She will sometimes sit with me when I read on here. Maybe that's not such a good idea. :)
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It's funny you should say that. She will sometimes sit with me when I read on here. Maybe that's not such a good idea. :)
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Well, just make sure she develops a thick skin and strong BS filter! GLP is an invaluable tool, a lot of fun, but I could see the potential for some of the topics to be depressing if you took them too seriously.
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Bineural beats.. Her vibration is too low.. She needs meditation not medication
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Maybe she was given too much responsibility some way, and maybe she can't really say that's the problem. It could be the powerlessness she is confronted with too.
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Maybe she was given too much responsibility some way, and maybe she can't really say that's the problem. It could be the powerlessness she is confronted with too.
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Well it's most likely my fault. Her dad left us when she was 2.
He was a police officer and found that he preferred his partner over me. Yes she was female. Haha

I was willing to work things out because I must have done something wrong for him to look elsewhere. He didn't want to. He wound up marrying her.

Anyway, it's just been me and my girls. A lot of responsibility does fall on them like chores, etc. due to my work schedule.

So maybe that comes into play as well.
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Bineural beats.. Her vibration is too low.. She needs meditation not medication
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I will look into this as well. Thank you.
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Are there any natural cures for depression?

I really don't want to get into the details too much but for the past 2 years I have been trying to save my 17 year old daughter. It hasn't been a continuous 2 years, it has been in episodes, off and on.

I have taken her to 2 counselors, etc, and they all want to put her on meds and I am afraid of the side effects. The one therapist wanted to put her away for two weeks before even giving me a diagnosis. We also talked to the school counselor but that was really no help.

What is causing her depression is self image. She is thin but thinks she is fat. She is 5'5 and 110 lbs. She is also dependent on being accepted by her friends. We are very close. She is beautiful and I'm not saying that because she is mine. She truly is, inside and out. She wants to be a therapist when she is finished school because she wants to help other people like her. She loves people....always trying to help them. She is also my little conspiracy theorist. She is not a threat to others, only herself. She also created a club at her school where she holds weekly meetings for kids that are having issues. How could someone that loves others so much and wants to help them have so much pain herself??

She knows there is a problem. I know there is a problem. We talk about what is bothering her although last night, she shut me out. She told me she doesn't hurt herself because of me. Well, I'm not going to be around forever and I want her to have a wonderful life.

I don't know what to do. My heart is telling me anti-depressants is not the way to go. So I'm asking if anyone knows of any natural remedies to alleviate her depression.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
 Quoting: NothingFancy


Weed.
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Maybe she was given too much responsibility some way, and maybe she can't really say that's the problem. It could be the powerlessness she is confronted with too.
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Well it's most likely my fault. Her dad left us when she was 2.
He was a police officer and found that he preferred his partner over me. Yes she was female. Haha

I was willing to work things out because I must have done something wrong for him to look elsewhere. He didn't want to. He wound up marrying her.

Anyway, it's just been me and my girls. A lot of responsibility does fall on them like chores, etc. due to my work schedule.

So maybe that comes into play as well.
 Quoting: NothingFancy


I'm sorry if my reply became quite personal. Sorry, but that's just me talking now, if you feel to blame for the dad leaving her, you should blame all of womenhood.

Is it the lust of her dad which is to blame? Or did he get trapped in the nets of that other woman and is he now living a miserable life with her?

If you didn't give any signals to her dad for which he would have to leave you, then I guess you should not blame yourself, though I know you could be left with hurting feelings.

Just another thought, maybe you are restricting herself to much? Just an idea. I only presented something to consider. I'm not saying that is the case. If so, you probably can do something about it.

It could be you making her depressed, focussing too much on protecting her you fail to see what she really needs. Just some thoughts.

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Maybe she was given too much responsibility some way, and maybe she can't really say that's the problem. It could be the powerlessness she is confronted with too.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


 Quoting: NothingFancy


I'm sorry if my reply became quite personal. Sorry, but that's just me talking now, if you feel to blame for the dad leaving her, you should blame all of womenhood.

Is it the lust of her dad which is to blame? Or did he get trapped in the nets of that other woman and is he now living a miserable life with her?

If you didn't give any signals to her dad for which he would have to leave you, then I guess you should not blame yourself, though I know you could be left with hurting feelings.

Just another thought, maybe you are restricting herself to much? Just an idea. I only presented something to consider. I'm not saying that is the case. If so, you probably can do something about it.

It could be you making her depressed, focussing too much on protecting her you fail to see what she really needs. Just some thoughts.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Your reply was just fine, not personal at all :)

Thank you for your words and wisdom.

I may smother her a bit. I just don't want to lose her. I am clueless on how to fix it. I also don't want to cause more damage.

As far as her dad, he wound up cheating on her as well and they got divorced too. Maybe the problem does lie with him.
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Truly tell her what she means to you and how you see her. She might be afraid showing how much she loves you.

Just an idea.

I guess teens have "the gift" of taking things the wrong way. Do mind the quotation marks.
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Are there any natural cures for depression?
 Quoting: NothingFancy


No one builds the thought system you call your mind but you, fix your shit with help if needed, but you created that shit world of a mind people associate with "depression".
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Thank you. Another response for St. Johns. I was hesitant to ask on GLP because it's not a conspiracy topic but so many have personal experiences that I knew I would get sound advice.
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I don't personally claim to be educated on clinical depression - I only have my experiences growing up, which I think was not a medical issue but an emotional one. One of the other posters mentioned that when she gets out of high school and into the college or the real world, that will help a lot too. She needs to find what interests her and pursue it with the energy only late teens and early twenty-somethings have. That'll go a LONG way in breaking the depressed mindset. It's hard to find time for depressive self-reflection when you are really busy doing something you enjoy!
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and she might consider not having children. I have been severely clinically depressed and suicidal since I was 6. I am on Effexor and Geodon and Xanax currently. I have been hospitalized 2 times and it didn't help. It's like being put in prison because you are sick. They punish you and tell you how bad you are being and that you need to suck it up for your family, but that doesn't help because you are sick. It's like they just can't understand.

I'm very suicidal right now and I am begging God to take me home to Heaven really soon. I have fought so hard for so many years and now, I am just surviving. I really pray that He will take me home because I have lived for other people, but I am done now and I want to go home. I'm not interested in being told how selfish I am being because I am sick and I need to get well, but it will never happen down here. This place is making me more sick.

I thought that God was refusing to talk to me this morning and that upset me even more. I hope He doesn't quit talking to me. I really need to go home. You don't ask someone with cancer to keep on living just for the hell of it. It is wrong to ask someone with severe mental illness to keep living even when they are in misery just because their bodies are still ticking away.
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Cut out refined sugar intake. It will do wonders.
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Yes, Saint Johns Wort helps a lot! I've been taking it, and it gives me energy and helps a lot throughout the day. Have her take one once she wakes up before breakfast, and usually around dinner. 2-3 a day helps a lot and after a couple of weeks she'll hopefully feel a lot better! Your local GNC should carry it! I hope for the best!
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Try the St. John's sort. Please keep in mind natural remedies can have side effects as well.

I would suggest she continue with some sort of counseling with her perceived image of herself.

I wish you both the best hf
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Anti-depressants are never the way to go.

Try Vitamin C

Try introducing:

~LOTS of her favorite fruits

~LOOK into juicing

~LET her experience yoga

~LOVE her as much as you can
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Anti-depressants are never the way to go.

Try Vitamin C

Try introducing:

~LOTS of her favorite fruits

~LOOK into juicing

~LET her experience yoga

~LOVE her as much as you can
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Anti-depressants are never the way to go.

Try Vitamin C

Try introducing:

~LOTS of her favorite fruits

~LOOK into juicing

~LET her experience yoga

~LOVE her as much as you can





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