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Coffee in a Post-Collapse Society

 
No Dhimmi

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. . . there is a method for long term storage, unless you plan on rotating your roasted/ground coffee on a regular basis-eventually the coffee you have stored will become undrinkable. Or unless you live in the very narrow band of coffee producing countries that are 20 degrees on each side of the equator and 3,000 feet above sea level- coffee in a post-collapse society will disappear quickly. The answer is to purchase green coffee beans. These are the natural unroasted beans. There are many sites available on the internet where you can purchase anywhere from one pound to fifty pound bags. One advantage is that you will save 50% on your coffee budget paying anywhere from $5-7 per pound by purchasing green coffee beans. The prices of coffee have been escalating just as other commodities and the anticipation of future inflation on coffee is expected to continue. If ordering by the internet and paying shipping costs are to be avoided then you could also check your local coffee roaster in the yellow pages and inquire, they may sell you coffee thus avoiding the shipping costs. Most however will make you pay a small fee above their costs to account for their lost profit, it never hurts to ask though.

Now that you have purchased a twenty five pound bag of beans it will arrive in a burlap bag, long term storage in a five gallon bucket and Mylar should follow your preferred method. You may want to store in multiple smaller Mylar bags for extended storage times. At this point the beans are not off gassing so vacuum sealing with oxygen absorbers is possible. Stored in this method your beans will stay fresh from 2-5 years until you decide to roast them. Some Columbian Estate coffees are actually aged prior to roasting and command premium prices.

Read more here:

[link to www.survivalblog.com]
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Great info! Thanks!

I guess I never realized how easy it was to do the roast yourself if needed.
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Thanks for the heads up

just want to point out that you dont realy need 3000 feet elevation and within 20 deg (that may be optimal?)

Ive grown it at close to 30 deg south and sea level
its hard to get it started and takes about 7 years to even start producing from memory but its possible places like
SE texas or florida could have a coffee industry after collapse.
sheell be right mate
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11/22/2013 08:19 AM
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Great info! Thanks!

I guess I never realized how easy it was to do the roast yourself if needed.
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Yea you can even use one of those small coffee mills and hand crank em
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11/22/2013 08:22 AM

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Terrific info

This is a great place to buy:

www.yankeeprepper.com
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as you can see

I planned for this.
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11/22/2013 08:32 AM
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Great info!


Also if you use chicory in your coffee you can stretch it out longer.
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Didn't people use ground up acorns following the Civil War. Of course, I mean people in the South who were being starved.

I've always been told that anyway.


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11/22/2013 08:34 AM

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propper link

[link to www.yankeeprepper.com]

Really not that bad. Dunkin donuts is like $6 a pond, this is just slightly more and 100 times better.
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11/22/2013 08:36 AM
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My coffee has a shelf life of 3 years then after that it just looses its potency . www coffeeorganicgo.com Great taste straight from Colombia.
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Ilex vomitoria (Yaupon) leaves contain very high caffeine content. The natives would drink high concentration tea in order to vomit in a cleansing ritual (which is where it gets its name). This is now a very common cultivated shrub and an evergreen. You can take the leaves of this plant as well as chicory root to make a coffee substitute. It will have a taste that resembles coffee, but more importantly it will have lots and lots of caffeine, plus it's extremely abundant in the southeast.

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Organic Green Coffee Beans are preferred.

One source: [link to www.deansbeans.com]
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Canned GREEN coffee beans

Green Coffee beans have not been roasted yet, so you can roast them yourself when you are ready to enjoy them. Since the bean is not cracked yet, the shelf life is many years longer than roasted or ground coffee. Because these are canned with oxygen absorbers and food-grade desiccant packs, you can expect these to stay fresh for 20+ years.

Roasting them is as simple as putting them in a pan over heat (stove, solar oven, camp fire, gas grill, etc.) or putting them under heat (broiler, oven, etc.). One of the most popular methods of roasting coffee at home is as simple as using a hot air popcorn popper.

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Thank you for the pin!
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11/22/2013 08:52 AM
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Skipp the coffee folks, and purchase pure caffeine powder. It is cheap, clean and will last allot longer.
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11/22/2013 08:53 AM

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This video demonstrates two methods for roasting coffee beans, the stove top method and the oven method. If you don't want to watch the entire video, the stove top method tutorial is at 1:46 in the video, while the oven method is at 5:04 in the video. Comment below and tell us what your preferred method of roasting coffee beans are!


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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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"comfort" type items can ease stress as well as provide highly sought after items in barter. Of course, shelter, water, food and protection come first.
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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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hesright
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Organic Green Coffee Beans are preferred.

One source: [link to www.deansbeans.com]
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Great post! And, great sources, No Dhimmi!!

Thanks for passing this on!
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Didn't people use ground up acorns following the Civil War. Of course, I mean people in the South who were being starved.

I've always been told that anyway.


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They also added chicory. Café Du Monde still sells their coffee this way.
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NOT COF-FEE, BUT SEX-FEE
Thread: Prostitution in a Post-Collapse Society

There's allways a fee to pay to feel good...
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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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It's number two, right behind outrunning the zombie horde. Then again, without coffee I could be mistaken for a zombie, so meybe I'll just fit right in with the "crowd"!zombies

Great thread though to peruse this morning. I don't really need a new hobby, but taking my coffee from green beans to the cup sounds like fun. 5*!
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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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Coffee has been traded longer than almost any other commodity. There's a reason for that.
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Good info:


[link to www.youtube.com]

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Tim Rifat has it figured out and these are the coming facts:

As the northern hemisphere gets more and more radiated, the middle class and the wealthy are going to buy uncontaminated food and water from the southern hemisphere, bidding the prices way up.

Meanwhile, the poor will not be able to afford the expensive uncontaminated food and water, they'll be forced to drink and eat radiated food and water which means they'll be doomed to all sorts of diseases and problems.

This is 100% certain. Uncontaminated food and water will be the gold and silver of the last days of man on earth.

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The question is, how long will the above take to transpire?


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Great info! Thanks!

I guess I never realized how easy it was to do the roast yourself if needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 542383


Yea you can even use one of those small coffee mills and hand crank em
 Quoting: Balloons


A friend of mine accidentally ordered TWO "nut roasters" from Amazon so he gave one of them to me. He bought it to roast green coffee beans and says it works great and it is not electric so it could be put on a grill or some outside propane cooking device like a Camp Chef stove. What a lucky gift I received.

I have never bought green coffee beans but will now just to check it out.

Thanks for the post.
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11/22/2013 09:18 AM
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Here in NC, I have planted 4 camellia sinensis plants on my property for this reason. So far the Japanese varieties have done well surviving the temperatures. I may not have coffee, but I'll have my tea thankyouverymuch.

If you live in the Triangle area, check out Camellia Forest Nursery near Chapel Hill and get you some tea plants.
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I would think coffee would be the least of your worries in a post-collapse society, sheeeesh.
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Coffee has been traded longer than almost any other commodity. There's a reason for that.
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yeh everyones drug addicts!
caffiene nicotene and sugar are drug of babylon
dont fancy being around the cold turkey when this happens.
took me 2.5years get off sugar, more addictive than heroin. hard core. just look at it, looks same.
procesed carbs are nearly as bad.
its going be a mega-fuk if it gets to bartering again
rp
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. . . there is a method for long term storage, unless you plan on rotating your roasted/ground coffee on a regular basis-eventually the coffee you have stored will become undrinkable. Or unless you live in the very narrow band of coffee producing countries that are 20 degrees on each side of the equator and 3,000 feet above sea level- coffee in a post-collapse society will disappear quickly. The answer is to purchase green coffee beans. These are the natural unroasted beans. There are many sites available on the internet where you can purchase anywhere from one pound to fifty pound bags. One advantage is that you will save 50% on your coffee budget paying anywhere from $5-7 per pound by purchasing green coffee beans. The prices of coffee have been escalating just as other commodities and the anticipation of future inflation on coffee is expected to continue. If ordering by the internet and paying shipping costs are to be avoided then you could also check your local coffee roaster in the yellow pages and inquire, they may sell you coffee thus avoiding the shipping costs. Most however will make you pay a small fee above their costs to account for their lost profit, it never hurts to ask though.

Now that you have purchased a twenty five pound bag of beans it will arrive in a burlap bag, long term storage in a five gallon bucket and Mylar should follow your preferred method. You may want to store in multiple smaller Mylar bags for extended storage times. At this point the beans are not off gassing so vacuum sealing with oxygen absorbers is possible. Stored in this method your beans will stay fresh from 2-5 years until you decide to roast them. Some Columbian Estate coffees are actually aged prior to roasting and command premium prices.

Read more here:

[link to www.survivalblog.com]
 Quoting: No Dhimmi

No Dhimmi , you are a man after my own pot !!
Coffee pot, that is !!
Coffee is an essential ....who cares about electricity, phone, maybe even internet!
BUT LOSE THE COFFEE AND ITS TIME TO THINK ABOUT JOINING JESUS ON THE OTHER SIDE.........





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