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*The Cosmic Struggle on the Cross* Jesus was also outside of the Physical Realm on the cross.

 
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*The Cosmic Struggle on the Cross* Jesus was also outside of the Physical Realm on the cross.
This is a great read for anyone interested..


Several medical doctors and forensic experts have written books about the common Roman form of execution---death by crucifixion. Often the process took several days.

The nailing of hands and feet forced the victim to push up against the weight of his own body to take a single breath. In the hot sun, terrible thirst ensued and death came in most cases from suffocation amidst great pain. The victim was also naked and humiliated---death on the cross was reserved for the most wretched of all criminals.


There is much more to the death of Jesus on the cross than the visible suffering, terrible pain and suffering, and the incredible ignominy of such a horrible death for One who was not only innocent but also the very Son of God.

The Cosmic Struggle on the Cross

After speaking of Jesus and his role in the creation of the universe Paul in his letter to the Colossians tells us about invisible events taking place outside of the physical realm, and outside of our ordinary space-time continuum during the dying of Jesus on the cross,

...in Jesus all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross. And you, who once were estranged and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and irreproachable before him. (Col. 1:19-22)

The above passage reveals that not only did Jesus take upon Himself the sins of mankind when He died for us on the cross, but He also met fully the onslaught of demons, fallen angels, and all the power of evil forces in the heavens as well, disarming all of them completely.

Jesus' victory over man's greatest enemy, death, is boldly stated in the letter to the Hebrews:

"Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same nature, that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage." (Hebrews 2:14,15)

In speaking to the Apostle John from the heavens, Jesus sent these words to mankind:

"Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades." (Revelation 1:17-18)


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All through the Bible we see God's love is manifest to men and women everywhere in urging them to escape this judgment. God in love pleads with people, 'Do not go on to this end!' But ultimately he must judge those who refuse his offer of grace. He says, in effect, 'I love you and I can provide all you need. Therefore love me, and you will find the fulfillment your heart is looking for.' But many men and women say, 'No, I do not want that. I will take your gifts, I will take all the good things you provide, but I do not want you! Let me run my own life.



Let me serve my own ends. Let me have my own kingdom.' To such, God ultimately says, 'All right, have it your way!' God has three choices: first, he can let rebellion go on forever and never judge it. In that case the terrible things that are happening on earth, all these distressing injustices, the cruelty, the anger, the hate, the malice, the sorrow, the hurt, the pain, the death that now prevails, must go on forever. God does not want that, and neither does man.


Second, God can force men to obey him and control them as robots. But he will never do that because that means they cannot truly love him. Love cannot be forced.



Therefore, third, the only choice God really has is that he must withdraw ultimately from those who refuse his love. He must let them have their own way forever. That results in the terrible torment of godlessness. If God is necessary to us, then to take him out of our lives is to plunge us into the most terrible sense of loneliness and abandonment that mankind can know. We have all experienced it to some small degree when we get what we want and then discover we do not want what we got!


For that sense of bored emptiness to go on forever, is unspeakable torment."
Susie

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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"God can't give us peace and happiness apart from Himself because there is no such thing.”
― C.S. Lewis
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"God can't give us peace and happiness apart from Himself because there is no such thing.”
― C.S. Lewis
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Well yes..We are spirits created with the Image of GOD..

No GOD in our life we are just an empty vessel...

Susie

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"God can't give us peace and happiness apart from Himself because there is no such thing.”
― C.S. Lewis
 Quoting: erin136


Well yes..We are spirits created with the Image of GOD..

No GOD in our life we are just an empty vessel...

 Quoting: christian


This is why there are so many angry atheists imo not that you dont see angry christians but I see far more happy christians than angry and I have yet to meet a truly peaceful happy atheist.
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"God can't give us peace and happiness apart from Himself because there is no such thing.”
― C.S. Lewis
 Quoting: erin136


Well yes..We are spirits created with the Image of GOD..

No GOD in our life we are just an empty vessel...

 Quoting: christian


This is why there are so many angry atheists imo not that you dont see angry christians but I see far more happy christians than angry and I have yet to meet a truly peaceful happy atheist.
 Quoting: erin136


You are right...The Angriest people are Godless....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1





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