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A white barbarian in China

 
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12/16/2013 07:34 AM
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A white barbarian in China
To give some context;

I'm a 20-odd year old British white male. Slim and short. I studied computer science in the UK. I came to China after recieving invitations from many Chinese friends I met back home. The visa process was easy and affordable, and done locally to where I live.

I'm sipping wine and browsing on my Chinese conn!

Some observations to get this started;

1) Chinese wine is really cheap, and really strong. It's not the same kind of strong-taste kick that we get from our western spirits, but the alcohol content is definately up there. Whatever, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

2) Hangovers are quite unknown, I've had a fair bit to drink since I've got here - and been with many Chinese that do - but hangovers don't seem commonplace like back home. I believe this to be a difference in the fermentation style of the alcohol (been done in rice).

3) Many cigarette styles and prices to choose from, ranging from 20p/32c to £10/$17.

4) People spit all the time, everywhere - even the women.

5) The food is fantastic. I will stress that a lot of the meat quality has been arguable - but what they do with it,for what they charge, is magical. I've tried many foods I wouldn't have dreamed of trying back home (but no dog, not yet anyway).

6) I've been here 10 days, and the first 10 days of my life over the past 2 years without weed (or even smelling it).

7) I arrived in an 'international city', and saw a fair few other white guys. I didn't see a single black, and I haven't seen a black since leaving the UK. Since arriving at my final destination I've seen one other white - a French man - who spoke nor Chinese nor English. As a result of this; people stare at me constantly (in anything from superise to hate to admiration).

8) I don't speak much Chinese, and have met only few English speakers. Luckily, my host and friend is fluent in both English and Mandarin.

9) I've had much success with long meditation sessions since arriving - I would attribute this to excitement, stress, and eating better.

10) Most of the toilets require you to crouch. Although, I've stayed in 4 different hotels and none of the toilets in those had that requirement. The hotels were excellent value, and felt very high-class.

11) There is an abundance of modern supermarkets and shopping centres.

12) They're building everything, everywhere - constantly.

13) The Chinese girls are very interested in me.

14) The more I use chopsticks, the more I love them. Not that I don't miss a knife and fork.

15) The roads seem like utter madness, but I haven't seen any accidents or someone getting hurt. My friend seems to manage driving round their insane roads quite easily.

16) I've done a lot alone, and feel pretty safe. Most people are very helpful, kind, and welcoming. I don't understand Chinese so there's always the chance people are saying racial slurs to me.. (blue eyed barbarian?).

Questions, advice, anything?
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12/16/2013 07:39 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
fascinating observations op. if you do score any smoke/hash/red brick opium, update the post, i'd be very curious to what you find.
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12/16/2013 07:43 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
13) The Chinese girls are very interested in me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51572991


Of course, Women are born traitors, everywhere.
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12/16/2013 07:51 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
The 'smog' generally doesn't seem as bad as it was made out to be. On some days it feels much heavier than on others (I'm going to go out on a whim and say the weather has an impact on how the smog appears). Most of the time; you can witness a blue sky.

My lungs don't seem to be complaining, but I've had to join them on the high-rate of spitting (a combination of the cigarettes and dust, uh).
Buster_Cap_In_Yo_Ass

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12/16/2013 07:51 AM
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Just one question, given all we hear about how restrictive China is regarding info flow, and that they have 'internalised' the internet there, how have you accessed a 'western' website from inside 'Red territory'?
BustercapInyoAss simply translates in its modern sense to the transfer of knowledge.
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12/16/2013 07:53 AM
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Was thinking of going to china myself in the new year to teach, the Job market is pretty dismal in the south-west.

Are you there on a holiday or have intentions of working as well?
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12/16/2013 07:54 AM
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Most cars (excluding: taxis and police cars) are brand-new models. Japanese models seem to pretty common, but there's no shortage of German models - obviously though - they're all made in China.

If you started in one of their underground car parks (even in the non-international city I'm in), you'd probably hazard a guess you were in a very affluent place.
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12/16/2013 07:57 AM
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Just one question, given all we hear about how restrictive China is regarding info flow, and that they have 'internalised' the internet there, how have you accessed a 'western' website from inside 'Red territory'?
 Quoting: Buster_Cap_In_Yo_Ass


GLP isn't blocked, and performs just as fast as back home.

Many websites I used back home are unaccessible, including:
- My email provider
- My server provider
- My cellular network

I think these are just accidental blocks, where they've blocked certain IP ranges, datacentres, ISPs - in order to maintain their political stability - not to block those websites specifically.

For some things I use an American VPN (European ones tend to be very slow, and American servers usually ping well from China).
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12/16/2013 08:00 AM
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Was thinking of going to china myself in the new year to teach, the Job market is pretty dismal in the south-west.

Are you there on a holiday or have intentions of working as well?
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I'm on a tourist visa, and have no intentions of working. Although I'd jump at the chance for some kind of experience - even if that be volunteer work.

Foreigners are in high-demand for many jobs here, primarily - obviously - english teaching. If you don't know Chinese, it better be an international city (but, then, foreigners aren't lacking there). If you have a degree, I'm sure that would be a huge bonus.
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12/16/2013 08:05 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Got a degree in English and American Literature. Pretty useless degree, except for teaching English!.

Got the TEFL too, just need to grow some balls and leave this miserable island lol.
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12/16/2013 08:07 AM
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Got a degree in English and American Literature. Pretty useless degree, except for teaching English!.

Got the TEFL too, just need to grow some balls and leave this miserable island lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25619764


Home is great.

Anyway, with that stuff - you'd be able to find a very nice wage (way above the avg Chinese).
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12/16/2013 08:12 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
It would be better if I could balance out this thread by looking at some of the negatives..

- The pathways are usually screwed up and unsafe, which you'll encounter atleast several times on any given journey.

- Scooters and motorbikes often go on the pathways.

- It's not a quiet place, atleast not in the cities, you can't go 5 seconds without hearing someone hit their car horn.

- It's a freeforall if you want to get on or off a bus.

- Trucks, lorries, vans are everywhere and anywhere.

- The cooking oil quality is generally bad.

- The low value currency is just a pain in the arse.
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12/16/2013 08:14 AM
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yeah watch out for that street food op
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12/16/2013 08:21 AM
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yeah watch out for that street food op

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51625897


I've tried quite a bit of the street food, and would rate it as as quite good (especially in terms of value).

I've tried:
- Various fried rices
- Various noodles/noudle soups
- BBQd meats
- A tortoise

On the first few days of arriving here I wasn't ill but experienced some bad headaches, after that, I got ill - stuffy/runny nose, cough, and sore throat - that soon passed. I didn't use any medication; just plenty of water, tea, and meditation.

I was blocked up for a while (probably from the rice), I just got back on the fruit and that soon sorted out.
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12/16/2013 08:24 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Are you sure they don't spit to your food?
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12/16/2013 08:24 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Children often don't stare or even give a damn about a white guy unless their parents point it out.
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12/16/2013 08:25 AM
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Are you sure they don't spit to your food?
 Quoting: Simetrija


I'm not sure they don't do that back home...
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12/16/2013 08:26 AM
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So that's where our middle class went!!
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12/16/2013 08:27 AM
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To give some context;

I'm a 20-odd year old British white male. Slim and short. I studied computer science in the UK. I came to China after recieving invitations from many Chinese friends I met back home. The visa process was easy and affordable, and done locally to where I live.

I'm sipping wine and browsing on my Chinese conn!

Some observations to get this started;

1) Chinese wine is really cheap, and really strong. It's not the same kind of strong-taste kick that we get from our western spirits, but the alcohol content is definately up there. Whatever, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

2) Hangovers are quite unknown, I've had a fair bit to drink since I've got here - and been with many Chinese that do - but hangovers don't seem commonplace like back home. I believe this to be a difference in the fermentation style of the alcohol (been done in rice).

3) Many cigarette styles and prices to choose from, ranging from 20p/32c to £10/$17.

4) People spit all the time, everywhere - even the women.

5) The food is fantastic. I will stress that a lot of the meat quality has been arguable - but what they do with it,for what they charge, is magical. I've tried many foods I wouldn't have dreamed of trying back home (but no dog, not yet anyway).

6) I've been here 10 days, and the first 10 days of my life over the past 2 years without weed (or even smelling it).

7) I arrived in an 'international city', and saw a fair few other white guys. I didn't see a single black, and I haven't seen a black since leaving the UK. Since arriving at my final destination I've seen one other white - a French man - who spoke nor Chinese nor English. As a result of this; people stare at me constantly (in anything from superise to hate to admiration).

8) I don't speak much Chinese, and have met only few English speakers. Luckily, my host and friend is fluent in both English and Mandarin.

9) I've had much success with long meditation sessions since arriving - I would attribute this to excitement, stress, and eating better.

10) Most of the toilets require you to crouch. Although, I've stayed in 4 different hotels and none of the toilets in those had that requirement. The hotels were excellent value, and felt very high-class.

11) There is an abundance of modern supermarkets and shopping centres.

12) They're building everything, everywhere - constantly.

13) The Chinese girls are very interested in me.

14) The more I use chopsticks, the more I love them. Not that I don't miss a knife and fork.

15) The roads seem like utter madness, but I haven't seen any accidents or someone getting hurt. My friend seems to manage driving round their insane roads quite easily.

16) I've done a lot alone, and feel pretty safe. Most people are very helpful, kind, and welcoming. I don't understand Chinese so there's always the chance people are saying racial slurs to me.. (blue eyed barbarian?).

Questions, advice, anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51572991


You will be fine as long as you do not start talking about human rights and shitting about the Chinese government Commies
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12/16/2013 08:28 AM
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So that's where our middle class went!!
 Quoting: Labadee 6939027


Fair point, but I'm from a working class family.
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12/16/2013 08:32 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
To give some context;

I'm a 20-odd year old British white male. Slim and short. I studied computer science in the UK. I came to China after recieving invitations from many Chinese friends I met back home. The visa process was easy and affordable, and done locally to where I live.

I'm sipping wine and browsing on my Chinese conn!

Some observations to get this started;

1) Chinese wine is really cheap, and really strong. It's not the same kind of strong-taste kick that we get from our western spirits, but the alcohol content is definately up there. Whatever, it's a lot of bang for the buck.

2) Hangovers are quite unknown, I've had a fair bit to drink since I've got here - and been with many Chinese that do - but hangovers don't seem commonplace like back home. I believe this to be a difference in the fermentation style of the alcohol (been done in rice).

3) Many cigarette styles and prices to choose from, ranging from 20p/32c to £10/$17.

4) People spit all the time, everywhere - even the women.

5) The food is fantastic. I will stress that a lot of the meat quality has been arguable - but what they do with it,for what they charge, is magical. I've tried many foods I wouldn't have dreamed of trying back home (but no dog, not yet anyway).

6) I've been here 10 days, and the first 10 days of my life over the past 2 years without weed (or even smelling it).

7) I arrived in an 'international city', and saw a fair few other white guys. I didn't see a single black, and I haven't seen a black since leaving the UK. Since arriving at my final destination I've seen one other white - a French man - who spoke nor Chinese nor English. As a result of this; people stare at me constantly (in anything from superise to hate to admiration).

8) I don't speak much Chinese, and have met only few English speakers. Luckily, my host and friend is fluent in both English and Mandarin.

9) I've had much success with long meditation sessions since arriving - I would attribute this to excitement, stress, and eating better.

10) Most of the toilets require you to crouch. Although, I've stayed in 4 different hotels and none of the toilets in those had that requirement. The hotels were excellent value, and felt very high-class.

11) There is an abundance of modern supermarkets and shopping centres.

12) They're building everything, everywhere - constantly.

13) The Chinese girls are very interested in me.

14) The more I use chopsticks, the more I love them. Not that I don't miss a knife and fork.

15) The roads seem like utter madness, but I haven't seen any accidents or someone getting hurt. My friend seems to manage driving round their insane roads quite easily.

16) I've done a lot alone, and feel pretty safe. Most people are very helpful, kind, and welcoming. I don't understand Chinese so there's always the chance people are saying racial slurs to me.. (blue eyed barbarian?).

Questions, advice, anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51572991


You will be fine as long as you do not start talking about human rights and shitting about the Chinese government Commies
 Quoting: Bear Drinker


I'm not here concerning their human rights or ideologies.
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12/16/2013 08:34 AM
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They don't all look alike; that seems like an absurd observation. I feel that the Chinese in China have much more aesthetic diversity than the Chinese, in say, the UK.
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12/16/2013 08:37 AM
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Foreign products are usually very expensive, more expensive than their country of origin (today I checked out some Twinings tea - which was the double the price in £ than I'm used to). There aren't many Chinese imitations of western food or beverage products - they either offer the western product as it is (and usually a high-class one) or nothing at all.
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12/16/2013 08:38 AM
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Western products that are highly integrated here are cheaper, but very different. Good examples would be: Coke, McDonalds, KFC, Pepsi, Lays/Walkers, Oreos.
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12/16/2013 08:38 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Sounds reminiscent of my travels to Mongolia last year!

ohyeah
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

And as through your life you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
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12/16/2013 08:39 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Sounds reminiscent of my travels to Mongolia last year!

ohyeah
 Quoting: Chuckie Joe


Whilst here I heard those guys would kill an animal and just eat it raw (and not that long ago!). Sounds badass.
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12/16/2013 09:17 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
A most interesting firsthand account!
Nice read, thanks
Chuckie Joe

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12/16/2013 09:22 AM
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Sounds reminiscent of my travels to Mongolia last year!

ohyeah
 Quoting: Chuckie Joe


Whilst here I heard those guys would kill an animal and just eat it raw (and not that long ago!). Sounds badass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51572991


Never encountered that, but the centuries of enmity towards each other (Mongolia vs China) is very obvious in both directions.
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

And as through your life you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
Anonymous Coward
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12/16/2013 09:28 AM
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Ahhh the wild-eyed naivety of the FOB (fresh off the boat).
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12/16/2013 09:35 AM
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seen many chicks with purple hair?
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12/16/2013 09:50 AM
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Re: A white barbarian in China
Ahhh the wild-eyed naivety of the FOB (fresh off the boat).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51636264


The dreary-eyed feckless response of someone who could probably offer me decent advice.





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