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"Phil Robertson, the Founding Father of the Duck Dynasty show on A&E, was interviewed for an article in GQ Magazine, and because he spoke of his beliefs in regards to Homosexuality and quoted the Bible, A&E has decided to suspend him indefinitely from the show because they got some pressure from the homosexual rights organization, GLAAD.

We are not writing this article today to continue on with the story, but to take on the underlying truth here. The truth that the racist pendulum in the United States has swung to the other side. Yes! We said it! To be white, Christian or heterosexual in America (or God forbid, all 3) today is to be suppressed. If you fall into any of those categories, you better watch what you say, no matter what you think because otherwise, you are going to get the brunt of everyone else’s opinion. In that battle, you will lose.

Let’s think about this for a minute. Currently, we are getting ready to take down the Mount Soledad Cross in California because it’s offensive, neighbors protest a family for their Christmas Lights on their own house by sending a hate letter because it’s offensive, many Christian military personnel are no longer allowed to pray because it’s offensive, and we could give you a hundred more recent examples, but you get the point. We have gone to the complete other side to try and please the minority in our country, and in doing so, the majority are quickly becoming the minority."

[link to freedomoutpost.com]


As much as I hate to say it, it sure seems to be true recently (OK, more than just recently). What happened to everyone having an equal say under the 1st amendment? A right to our own opinion? I respect your right to your opinion, why can't I expect the same treatment in return?

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"Today, we have BET (Black Entertainment Television), The National Black Chamber of Commerce, the Miss Black USA Pageant and dozens of other Racially Supported organizations. What do you think would happen if we started the White Television Network or we renamed the US Chamber of Commerce the National White Chamber of Commerce or if the Miss USA Pageant became the Miss White USA Pageant? You know, and I know, that all hell would break loose. Every (leftist) activist organization in the country would be in an uprising and suing for such things but as a white Christian, you better not say anything. Political Correctness really only applies to the white, Christian, heterosexual people of our country today. Everyone else is protected by the 1st Amendment. We’re sorry, but to put it bluntly, that is just screwed up! That’s as racist as you are ever going to get.
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Me, you, him, and her all have the God given right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness, regardless of what form that takes for each of us individually. Just because you may choose a lifestyle that I disagree with does not mean I hate you...what it means simply is that you need to keep your druthers to yourself and let me keep my druthers to myself. I am not God (though I am of Him and part of Him, as are you), and I don't set myself up as judge to your personal belief systems. Not my place. But I expect to be able to live my life as I see fit without persecution for my beliefs, as well.

Seems simple to me, but then, that's just IMHO.

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Does he represent the typical white, straight Christian?
Hmmmm.... I didn't know that.
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Does he represent the typical white, straight Christian?
Hmmmm.... I didn't know that.
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"He" who?
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I'll certainly bite on this thread, because I believe we probably have totally divergent viewpoints.

I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights, agnostic and pretty liberal in my beliefs.

All of that being said, I think this whole firing a guy for speaking his mind thing is absolutely ridiculous and that it spits in the face of what this nation is supposed to stand for.

I don't agree with this man, he doesn't agree with me, but if I expect the right to say my piece legally and without repercussions (either criminal or financial, such as finding myself out of the job because my views aren't mainstream enough to be tolerated) the I also expect that he should have the exact same right.

That is what freedom of speech and freedom of the press are supposed to be about.

We are supposed to be able to disagree - publicly disagree - and not be punished for our words or opinions.

This censorship bullshit is scary as hell, regardless of whether you call yourself liberal or conservative. If you are an American citizen, you should have an expectation of being able to have your own opinion about social issues and to be able to legally scream it at the top of your lungs with impunity, regardless of how unpopular it is.

I am sure I offend people on a daily basis. Every now and then someone offends me. And that's good. That's how it's supposed to be. We are not all supposed to be the same. We are supposed to be able to think for ourselves and have our own opinions and to use our own minds to discern for ourselves right and wrong.

They are trying to turn us into a hive, where it's all white noise and where nobody questions anything and everyone behaves like a good little drone. It's terrifying and I don't want any part of it.

People need to wake up. This country was built on the backs and from the blood of big mouthed, unpopular dissidents who weren't afraid to speak their minds and bring about change. We're being swallowed up into a world of sameness, of conformity. 1984 is alive and well and going on in our living rooms.

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I'll certainly bite on this thread, because I believe we probably have totally divergent viewpoints.

I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights, agnostic and pretty liberal in my beliefs.

All of that being said, I think this whole firing a guy for speaking his mind thing is absolutely ridiculous and that it spits in the face of what this nation is supposed to stand for.

I don't agree with this man, he doesn't agree with me, but if I expect the right to say my piece legally and without repercussions (either criminal or financial, such as finding myself out of the job because my views aren't mainstream enough to be tolerated) the I also expect that he should have the exact same right.

That is what freedom of speech and freedom of the press are supposed to be about.

We are supposed to be able to disagree - publicly disagree - and not be punished for our words or opinions.

This censorship bullshit is scary as hell, regardless of whether you call yourself liberal or conservative. If you are an American citizen, you should have an expectation of being able to have your own opinion about social issues and to be able to legally scream it at the top of your lungs with impunity, regardless of how unpopular it is.

I am sure I offend people on a daily basis. Every now and then someone offends me. And that's good. That's how it's supposed to be. We are not all supposed to be the same. We are supposed to be able to think for ourselves and have our own opinions and to use our own minds to discern for ourselves right and wrong.

They are trying to turn us into a hive, where it's all white noise and where nobody questions anything and everyone behaves like a good little drone. It's terrifying and I don't want any part of it.

People need to wake up. This country was built on the backs and from the blood of big mouthed, unpopular dissidents who weren't afraid to speak their minds and bring about change. We're being swallowed up into a world of sameness, of conformity. 1984 is alive and well and going on in our living rooms.

End of rant.
 Quoting: Em18966


I've seen some of your other posts, and after this one, I can tell you that I really like you!! No, I may not agree with you, but my whole point of this thread is exactly what you just said. We are all supposed to have the same protections to our opinions and belief systems under the Constitution. Right now, though, it just isn't working out that way.
You have a God given right to your beliefs just as I do to mine...Bless you.

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Could be karma? Sorry to say, but it could be true. Maybe it's a part of a learning experience. Even though you weren't apart of the past, sometimes you have to experience the harsher side of reality to understand both sides of a story. Maybe it's the universe's way of balancing everything out. I'm just afraid of what could be next.
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"Phil Robertson, the Founding Father of the Duck Dynasty show on A&E, was interviewed for an article in GQ Magazine, and because he spoke of his beliefs in regards to Homosexuality and quoted the Bible, A&E has decided to suspend him indefinitely from the show because they got some pressure from the homosexual rights organization, GLAAD.

We are not writing this article today to continue on with the story, but to take on the underlying truth here. The truth that the racist pendulum in the United States has swung to the other side. Yes! We said it! To be white, Christian or heterosexual in America (or God forbid, all 3) today is to be suppressed. If you fall into any of those categories, you better watch what you say, no matter what you think because otherwise, you are going to get the brunt of everyone else’s opinion. In that battle, you will lose.

Let’s think about this for a minute. Currently, we are getting ready to take down the Mount Soledad Cross in California because it’s offensive, neighbors protest a family for their Christmas Lights on their own house by sending a hate letter because it’s offensive, many Christian military personnel are no longer allowed to pray because it’s offensive, and we could give you a hundred more recent examples, but you get the point. We have gone to the complete other side to try and please the minority in our country, and in doing so, the majority are quickly becoming the minority."

[link to freedomoutpost.com]


As much as I hate to say it, it sure seems to be true recently (OK, more than just recently). What happened to everyone having an equal say under the 1st amendment? A right to our own opinion? I respect your right to your opinion, why can't I expect the same treatment in return?

ohno
 Quoting: retiredsoldier


Whats funny is, all of us are already equal under the law. Its our individual choices that reveal what we are about inside. What they seek doesnt exist. Evil will never be equal to good. They want to be rewarded for their deviant choices, no matter what they are doing. You reap what you sow in this life whether you like it or not, or believe in God or not.
Im not offended by the presence of moronic or evil behavior. Its just the world i was born into. DOnt expect me to affirm your behavior as good, or righteous. Sorry it isnt gonna happen, im not in the habit of lying or denying the truth. Enjoy your choices and quit worrying about what i think? If you dont like the way your being treated feel free to move to a more enlightened part of the world?
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Could be karma? Sorry to say, but it could be true. Maybe it's a part of a learning experience. Even though you weren't apart of the past, sometimes you have to experience the harsher side of reality to understand both sides of a story. Maybe it's the universe's way of balancing everything out. I'm just afraid of what could be next.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51796752


I've thought of the karma angle...since I have really good friends of all persuasions and colors (literally), that's not an issue for me. To me it comes down to affording one another the same rights we expect ourselves...guess that means the old Golden Rule.

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"Phil Robertson, the Founding Father of the Duck Dynasty show on A&E, was interviewed for an article in GQ Magazine, and because he spoke of his beliefs in regards to Homosexuality and quoted the Bible, A&E has decided to suspend him indefinitely from the show because they got some pressure from the homosexual rights organization, GLAAD.

We are not writing this article today to continue on with the story, but to take on the underlying truth here. The truth that the racist pendulum in the United States has swung to the other side. Yes! We said it! To be white, Christian or heterosexual in America (or God forbid, all 3) today is to be suppressed. If you fall into any of those categories, you better watch what you say, no matter what you think because otherwise, you are going to get the brunt of everyone else’s opinion. In that battle, you will lose.

Let’s think about this for a minute. Currently, we are getting ready to take down the Mount Soledad Cross in California because it’s offensive, neighbors protest a family for their Christmas Lights on their own house by sending a hate letter because it’s offensive, many Christian military personnel are no longer allowed to pray because it’s offensive, and we could give you a hundred more recent examples, but you get the point. We have gone to the complete other side to try and please the minority in our country, and in doing so, the majority are quickly becoming the minority."

[link to freedomoutpost.com]


As much as I hate to say it, it sure seems to be true recently (OK, more than just recently). What happened to everyone having an equal say under the 1st amendment? A right to our own opinion? I respect your right to your opinion, why can't I expect the same treatment in return?

ohno
 Quoting: retiredsoldier


Whats funny is, all of us are already equal under the law. Its our individual choices that reveal what we are about inside. What they seek doesnt exist. Evil will never be equal to good. They want to be rewarded for their deviant choices, no matter what they are doing. You reap what you sow in this life whether you like it or not, or believe in God or not.
Im not offended by the presence of moronic or evil behavior. Its just the world i was born into. DOnt expect me to affirm your behavior as good, or righteous. Sorry it isnt gonna happen, im not in the habit of lying or denying the truth. Enjoy your choices and quit worrying about what i think? If you dont like the way your being treated feel free to move to a more enlightened part of the world?
 Quoting: saved


So you think I should move to a "more enlightened part of the world" because I want the right to my opinion? I don't force my beliefs or opinions on anyone other than a few friends who ask for it! It has nothing to do with enlightened parts of the world, it has to do with my God given right to my liberty.

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Well said and well done OP
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I'll certainly bite on this thread, because I believe we probably have totally divergent viewpoints.

I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights, agnostic and pretty liberal in my beliefs.

All of that being said, I think this whole firing a guy for speaking his mind thing is absolutely ridiculous and that it spits in the face of what this nation is supposed to stand for.

I don't agree with this man, he doesn't agree with me, but if I expect the right to say my piece legally and without repercussions (either criminal or financial, such as finding myself out of the job because my views aren't mainstream enough to be tolerated) the I also expect that he should have the exact same right.

That is what freedom of speech and freedom of the press are supposed to be about.

We are supposed to be able to disagree - publicly disagree - and not be punished for our words or opinions.

This censorship bullshit is scary as hell, regardless of whether you call yourself liberal or conservative. If you are an American citizen, you should have an expectation of being able to have your own opinion about social issues and to be able to legally scream it at the top of your lungs with impunity, regardless of how unpopular it is.

I am sure I offend people on a daily basis. Every now and then someone offends me. And that's good. That's how it's supposed to be. We are not all supposed to be the same. We are supposed to be able to think for ourselves and have our own opinions and to use our own minds to discern for ourselves right and wrong.

They are trying to turn us into a hive, where it's all white noise and where nobody questions anything and everyone behaves like a good little drone. It's terrifying and I don't want any part of it.

People need to wake up. This country was built on the backs and from the blood of big mouthed, unpopular dissidents who weren't afraid to speak their minds and bring about change. We're being swallowed up into a world of sameness, of conformity. 1984 is alive and well and going on in our living rooms.

End of rant.
 Quoting: Em18966


WOW! Well said!! You couldnt be more right!!! Bravo, that is the spirit of this country! This forced diversity, by dictatorship is a crime in this country!!!!And thats a fact!
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Well said and well done OP
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I think Em18996 should get the credit, as well. Very articulate and right on.
Thank you, though.
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Could be karma? Sorry to say, but it could be true. Maybe it's a part of a learning experience. Even though you weren't apart of the past, sometimes you have to experience the harsher side of reality to understand both sides of a story. Maybe it's the universe's way of balancing everything out. I'm just afraid of what could be next.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51796752


I've thought of the karma angle...since I have really good friends of all persuasions and colors (literally), that's not an issue for me. To me it comes down to affording one another the same rights we expect ourselves...guess that means the old Golden Rule.

sun
 Quoting: retiredsoldier


It's true. I'm biracial myself (half white and black) and I've noticed the shift. Not all, but a lot of black people have really become racist. Instead of learning from the past, it's like history is repeating itself. But the racism today has become covert and pervasive indirectly. I've run into a lot of snooty, wealthy, better than thou black people and it's like, aren't you aware this is how a lot of white people used to treat your people back in the day?

Just the other day, this black lady said, "I don't like lighter-skinned people. They think they are better than everyone." This was right in front of me. I told her my issue with what she said and she just laughed it off like, "It's just my opinion." I've been nothing but nice to this lady and she just disrespected me right to my face. It's eery because I could here the echoes of some similar sayings back in the day that. It's like why is this becoming full circle? And when I say, "Light-skinned" I am not talking about white people. This is black people who have a light complexion.
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I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights
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They have all the same rights as anyone else.
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"Phil Robertson, the Founding Father of the Duck Dynasty show on A&E, was interviewed for an article in GQ Magazine, and because he spoke of his beliefs in regards to Homosexuality and quoted the Bible, A&E has decided to suspend him indefinitely from the show because they got some pressure from the homosexual rights organization, GLAAD.

We are not writing this article today to continue on with the story, but to take on the underlying truth here. The truth that the racist pendulum in the United States has swung to the other side. Yes! We said it! To be white, Christian or heterosexual in America (or God forbid, all 3) today is to be suppressed. If you fall into any of those categories, you better watch what you say, no matter what you think because otherwise, you are going to get the brunt of everyone else’s opinion. In that battle, you will lose.

Let’s think about this for a minute. Currently, we are getting ready to take down the Mount Soledad Cross in California because it’s offensive, neighbors protest a family for their Christmas Lights on their own house by sending a hate letter because it’s offensive, many Christian military personnel are no longer allowed to pray because it’s offensive, and we could give you a hundred more recent examples, but you get the point. We have gone to the complete other side to try and please the minority in our country, and in doing so, the majority are quickly becoming the minority."

[link to freedomoutpost.com]


As much as I hate to say it, it sure seems to be true recently (OK, more than just recently). What happened to everyone having an equal say under the 1st amendment? A right to our own opinion? I respect your right to your opinion, why can't I expect the same treatment in return?

ohno
 Quoting: retiredsoldier


Whats funny is, all of us are already equal under the law. Its our individual choices that reveal what we are about inside. What they seek doesnt exist. Evil will never be equal to good. They want to be rewarded for their deviant choices, no matter what they are doing. You reap what you sow in this life whether you like it or not, or believe in God or not.
Im not offended by the presence of moronic or evil behavior. Its just the world i was born into. DOnt expect me to affirm your behavior as good, or righteous. Sorry it isnt gonna happen, im not in the habit of lying or denying the truth. Enjoy your choices and quit worrying about what i think? If you dont like the way your being treated feel free to move to a more enlightened part of the world?
 Quoting: saved


So you think I should move to a "more enlightened part of the world" because I want the right to my opinion? I don't force my beliefs or opinions on anyone other than a few friends who ask for it! It has nothing to do with enlightened parts of the world, it has to do with my God given right to my liberty.

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No question there soldier. I am referring to the vermin who think because i disagree with them that i am against them? I love my all fellow countrymen. I dont like some of the things they do, doesnt mean i have to affirm they are right or the same as me? We were all created equal but their isnt one of us that is the same.

Its never a crime to disagree, and thats whats wrong with the leadership in this country. They want to punish those who disagree, or demonize them, or have them audited by the IRS. And way too much nosy shit going on as well with the intrusions into our homes and living rooms with this NSA shit! Are ya that bored that you gotta watch me everywhere and know what im thinking every minute of every day. Its none of your fucking business. Get a life i say, i already have mine and would love to be left alone to enjoy it.1dunno1
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Could be karma? Sorry to say, but it could be true. Maybe it's a part of a learning experience. Even though you weren't apart of the past, sometimes you have to experience the harsher side of reality to understand both sides of a story. Maybe it's the universe's way of balancing everything out. I'm just afraid of what could be next.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51796752


I've thought of the karma angle...since I have really good friends of all persuasions and colors (literally), that's not an issue for me. To me it comes down to affording one another the same rights we expect ourselves...guess that means the old Golden Rule.

sun
 Quoting: retiredsoldier


It's true. I'm biracial myself (half white and black) and I've noticed the shift. Not all, but a lot of black people have really become racist. Instead of learning from the past, it's like history is repeating itself. But the racism today has become covert and pervasive indirectly. I've run into a lot of snooty, wealthy, better than thou black people and it's like, aren't you aware this is how a lot of white people used to treat your people back in the day?

Just the other day, this black lady said, "I don't like lighter-skinned people. They think they are better than everyone." This was right in front of me. I told her my issue with what she said and she just laughed it off like, "It's just my opinion." I've been nothing but nice to this lady and she just disrespected me right to my face. It's eery because I could here the echoes of some similar sayings back in the day that. It's like why is this becoming full circle? And when I say, "Light-skinned" I am not talking about white people. This is black people who have a light complexion.
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I don't think color has as much to do with racism as attitude. Apparently that lady has issues/experiences you know nothing about that has brought her to where she is today. The best you can do is rise above that, and not let the negative stuff drag you down. I was fortunate in that my folks didn't have a prejudice bone in their bodies, and that was how we were taught. It served me well all my years in the military. That's not a place where you can be a bigot and survive for very long. Brothers are brothers (not to exclude sisters for the PC types).
Hang strong, my friend.

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I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights
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They have all the same rights as anyone else.
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They clearly think they have a right to minority violence. Guess they no longer support democracy?
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"Phil Robertson, the Founding Father of the Duck Dynasty show on A&E, was interviewed for an article in GQ Magazine, and because he spoke of his beliefs in regards to Homosexuality and quoted the Bible, A&E has decided to suspend him indefinitely from the show because they got some pressure from the homosexual rights organization, GLAAD.

We are not writing this article today to continue on with the story, but to take on the underlying truth here. The truth that the racist pendulum in the United States has swung to the other side. Yes! We said it! To be white, Christian or heterosexual in America (or God forbid, all 3) today is to be suppressed. If you fall into any of those categories, you better watch what you say, no matter what you think because otherwise, you are going to get the brunt of everyone else’s opinion. In that battle, you will lose.

Let’s think about this for a minute. Currently, we are getting ready to take down the Mount Soledad Cross in California because it’s offensive, neighbors protest a family for their Christmas Lights on their own house by sending a hate letter because it’s offensive, many Christian military personnel are no longer allowed to pray because it’s offensive, and we could give you a hundred more recent examples, but you get the point. We have gone to the complete other side to try and please the minority in our country, and in doing so, the majority are quickly becoming the minority."

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As much as I hate to say it, it sure seems to be true recently (OK, more than just recently). What happened to everyone having an equal say under the 1st amendment? A right to our own opinion? I respect your right to your opinion, why can't I expect the same treatment in return?

ohno
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Whats funny is, all of us are already equal under the law. Its our individual choices that reveal what we are about inside. What they seek doesnt exist. Evil will never be equal to good. They want to be rewarded for their deviant choices, no matter what they are doing. You reap what you sow in this life whether you like it or not, or believe in God or not.
Im not offended by the presence of moronic or evil behavior. Its just the world i was born into. DOnt expect me to affirm your behavior as good, or righteous. Sorry it isnt gonna happen, im not in the habit of lying or denying the truth. Enjoy your choices and quit worrying about what i think? If you dont like the way your being treated feel free to move to a more enlightened part of the world?
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So you think I should move to a "more enlightened part of the world" because I want the right to my opinion? I don't force my beliefs or opinions on anyone other than a few friends who ask for it! It has nothing to do with enlightened parts of the world, it has to do with my God given right to my liberty.

thumbs
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No question there soldier. I am referring to the vermin who think because i disagree with them that i am against them? I love my all fellow countrymen. I dont like some of the things they do, doesnt mean i have to affirm they are right or the same as me? We were all created equal but their isnt one of us that is the same.

Its never a crime to disagree, and thats whats wrong with the leadership in this country. They want to punish those who disagree, or demonize them, or have them audited by the IRS. And way too much nosy shit going on as well with the intrusions into our homes and living rooms with this NSA shit! Are ya that bored that you gotta watch me everywhere and know what im thinking every minute of every day. Its none of your fucking business. Get a life i say, i already have mine and would love to be left alone to enjoy it.1dunno1
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That's just the tip of the iceberg with this administration, but I couldn't agree with you more. I hate to be cliche, but it still boils down to the Golden Rule. So simple!
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Haha. PC is blowing up in the faces of everyone.
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Haha. PC is blowing up in the faces of everyone.
Love it.
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About time too. I for one am sick of it. Don't care if I offend people any more.

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Whats funny is, all of us are already equal under the law. Its our individual choices that reveal what we are about inside. What they seek doesnt exist. Evil will never be equal to good. They want to be rewarded for their deviant choices, no matter what they are doing. You reap what you sow in this life whether you like it or not, or believe in God or not.
Im not offended by the presence of moronic or evil behavior. Its just the world i was born into. DOnt expect me to affirm your behavior as good, or righteous. Sorry it isnt gonna happen, im not in the habit of lying or denying the truth. Enjoy your choices and quit worrying about what i think? If you dont like the way your being treated feel free to move to a more enlightened part of the world?
 Quoting: saved


So you think I should move to a "more enlightened part of the world" because I want the right to my opinion? I don't force my beliefs or opinions on anyone other than a few friends who ask for it! It has nothing to do with enlightened parts of the world, it has to do with my God given right to my liberty.

thumbs
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No question there soldier. I am referring to the vermin who think because i disagree with them that i am against them? I love my all fellow countrymen. I dont like some of the things they do, doesnt mean i have to affirm they are right or the same as me? We were all created equal but their isnt one of us that is the same.

Its never a crime to disagree, and thats whats wrong with the leadership in this country. They want to punish those who disagree, or demonize them, or have them audited by the IRS. And way too much nosy shit going on as well with the intrusions into our homes and living rooms with this NSA shit! Are ya that bored that you gotta watch me everywhere and know what im thinking every minute of every day. Its none of your fucking business. Get a life i say, i already have mine and would love to be left alone to enjoy it.1dunno1
 Quoting: saved


That's just the tip of the iceberg with this administration, but I couldn't agree with you more. I hate to be cliche, but it still boils down to the Golden Rule. So simple!
hf
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CHeers! Fundamental, it is the path to prosperity for those who embrace it. We are currently not on the path to prosperity as im sure you have noticed. God bless all of you.peacepeace
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Haha. PC is blowing up in the faces of everyone.
Love it.
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About time too. I for one am sick of it. Don't care if I offend people any more.

offended1
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Great post!

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Gotta turn in now. Bless all you GLPers. See you tomorrow!

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Haha. PC is blowing up in the faces of everyone.
Love it.
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About time. Sick of it myself. Always said PC would be the end of America. About time people wised up and put a stop to it.
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If we want a better world, we all need to insist on equality.

For all.

Black vs White
Gay vs straight
Republican vs Democrat
Conservative vs science
Hate vs logic

All of these things are a trap, meant to keep us on the road to a worse world.

If we want something better, we're each going to have to try and fix ourselves first.

It will take time, and not be easy, but we can start by looking at things without bias. Trying not to hate anyone (even if we feel like we have some good reasons too) and by making an effort to solve problems, rather than just comment on them.
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Homosexuals are coming out of their closets and they're trying to shove those that disagree with their lifestyle into them. Good is evil and evil is good.

It's not karma.

It's the hour we live in.
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I'll certainly bite on this thread, because I believe we probably have totally divergent viewpoints.

I am a vocal supporter of LGBT rights, agnostic and pretty liberal in my beliefs.

All of that being said, I think this whole firing a guy for speaking his mind thing is absolutely ridiculous and that it spits in the face of what this nation is supposed to stand for.

I don't agree with this man, he doesn't agree with me, but if I expect the right to say my piece legally and without repercussions (either criminal or financial, such as finding myself out of the job because my views aren't mainstream enough to be tolerated) the I also expect that he should have the exact same right.

That is what freedom of speech and freedom of the press are supposed to be about.

We are supposed to be able to disagree - publicly disagree - and not be punished for our words or opinions.

This censorship bullshit is scary as hell, regardless of whether you call yourself liberal or conservative. If you are an American citizen, you should have an expectation of being able to have your own opinion about social issues and to be able to legally scream it at the top of your lungs with impunity, regardless of how unpopular it is.

I am sure I offend people on a daily basis. Every now and then someone offends me. And that's good. That's how it's supposed to be. We are not all supposed to be the same. We are supposed to be able to think for ourselves and have our own opinions and to use our own minds to discern for ourselves right and wrong.

They are trying to turn us into a hive, where it's all white noise and where nobody questions anything and everyone behaves like a good little drone. It's terrifying and I don't want any part of it.

People need to wake up. This country was built on the backs and from the blood of big mouthed, unpopular dissidents who weren't afraid to speak their minds and bring about change. We're being swallowed up into a world of sameness, of conformity. 1984 is alive and well and going on in our living rooms.

End of rant.
 Quoting: Em18966

Yup!
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White, Christian, Straight People Need To Shut Up

IOW: the overwhelming majority of the ppltn should STFU, right?
uh.....what do you call it when a tiny, vocal minority runs the government?.....is that an oligarchy or a tyranny?
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