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News Flash: Inflammation Is What Causes Most Of Today's Heart Disease, not necessarily high fat diet

 
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Dietary saturated fat and cholesterol causes heart disease, period. Animal based sources of these especially encourage atherosclerotic plaque buildup, oxidated trimethylamines, and inflammation.

This is why a whole food plant based diet has been clinically proven to prevent, stop, and even reverse heart disease, including stage IV cases. Bill Clinton, for instance, used WFPB diet to reverse his "death's door" heart disease, by working with the legendary Dr. Dean Ornish, who isn't even vegan.

The American College of Cardiology is the world's foremost authority on the issue and their official position is that, yes, dietary saturated fat and cholesterol is the primary cause of heart disease, trumping even bad genetics or smoking, and that a whole food plant based diet prevents even reverses heart disease in ~90%+ cases.

Remember, we're talking about the #1 killer in the US. This is valuable information that can save lives. Don't get caught up in emotional reactivity or the industry propaganda.
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tree fiddy

It ain't animal fats, it's gluten sugar and artificial processed crap.

I agree with eating more plants in your diet, but animal fat is not the cause or problem.

GLUTEN LACTOSE SUGAR PERIOD. THOSE ARE THE THREE KILLERS
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Don't forget, Lactose is also a sugar ;-)
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Cinnamon, Curcumin and Turmeric are great for reducing inflammatory and helps stop pain. Turmeric contains curcumin, a substance with powerful anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.

They can be purchases in capsule. At least 2 cinnamon and 1 Turmeric daily.

10 Proven Health Benefits of Turmeric and Curcumin

Curcumin Boosts Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor, Linked to Improved Brain Function and a Lower Risk of Brain Diseases

Curcumin Should Lower Your Risk of Heart Disease

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15 Health Benefits of Cinnamon - excellent info
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Since cinnamon has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, it can help in reducing the risk of cancer, controls blood sugar, prevents Alzheimer’s disease, reduce heart disease risk, relieve arthritis pain, boost immune system, aid in digestion,
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Cinnamon, Curcumin and Turmeric are great for reducing inflammatory and helps stop pain. Turmeric contains curcumin, a substance with powerful anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.

They can be purchases in capsule. At least 2 cinnamon and 1 Turmeric daily.

10 Proven Health Benefits of Turmeric and Curcumin

Curcumin Boosts Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor, Linked to Improved Brain Function and a Lower Risk of Brain Diseases

Curcumin Should Lower Your Risk of Heart Disease

[link to www.healthline.com (secure)]


15 Health Benefits of Cinnamon - excellent info
[link to www.ehealthzine.com (secure)]

Since cinnamon has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties, it can help in reducing the risk of cancer, controls blood sugar, prevents Alzheimer’s disease, reduce heart disease risk, relieve arthritis pain, boost immune system, aid in digestion,
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Don't forget to make curcumin bioavailable by more than 1000% with black pepper!
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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yeah and a lot of times these cholesterol lowering drugs cause worse side effects than the original ailment! It's all a scam.
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Ya they wreck your cholesterol and don't tell older people they need cholesterol for the brain to function properly.. So they end up with horrible memories.
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It's called being imperfect humans, getting old and dying.

Everyone gets sick and everyone dies. Inflammation or no inflammation!
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most old people who die, they just put "Myocardial Infarction"
on the Death Certificate and move on.
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[link to myscienceacademy.org]

"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
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Yes, Sugar causes the inflammation, not fats. Sugar is the biggest enemy to the human body.
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Inflammation is the way the body responds to remedy what you did wrong , make your body back to normal. But most people are chronic inflammed... That is where most modern health problems arise.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


yeah and a lot of times these cholesterol lowering drugs cause worse side effects than the original ailment! It's all a scam.
 Quoting: eekers


Ya they wreck your cholesterol and don't tell older people they need cholesterol for the brain to function properly.. So they end up with horrible memories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662


Take a look at the study I published on page 1 about the correlation of living longer and having higher cholesterol.
And there is more studies out there.

cheers
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
 Quoting: southern man 1685967


Your on blood thinners cause your veins are inflamed and also collapsing.
Inflamed from most likely gluten or sugar and bad oils/foods.
You know why in an emergency you can take cayenne pepper to stop a heart attack? Because it expands your veins back to their normal size thus eliminating the needs for cholesterol blockers and blood thinners..
3 years ago I was having some serious high blood pressure issues and all they wanted me to take was some medication to control it..
Someone on here mentioned cayenne supplementation and my blood pressure normalized within 10 mins and I noticed the veins in my arms get much bigger, like double in size.. I was taking it every day now I only need to maintain one supplement every couple of days and its super cheap..
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
 Quoting: southern man 1685967


Your on blood thinners cause your veins are inflamed and also collapsing.
Inflamed from most likely gluten or sugar and bad oils/foods.
You know why in an emergency you can take cayenne pepper to stop a heart attack? Because it expands your veins back to their normal size thus eliminating the needs for cholesterol blockers and blood thinners..
3 years ago I was having some serious high blood pressure issues and all they wanted me to take was some medication to control it..
Someone on here mentioned cayenne supplementation and my blood pressure normalized within 10 mins and I noticed the veins in my arms get much bigger, like double in size.. I was taking it every day now I only need to maintain one supplement every couple of days and its super cheap..
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and if anyone is interested in cayenne, get the lowest heat you can with nothing else in it. They sometimes like to put garlic or ginger in with it.. Just get 20,000 btu or 40,000 .. Im on one now that is 100,000 btu and it causes some minor bowel issue once in awhile and only because I think its way too much btu.. I couldn't find a smaller size at the time.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
 Quoting: southern man 1685967


Your on blood thinners cause your veins are inflamed and also collapsing.
Inflamed from most likely gluten or sugar and bad oils/foods.
You know why in an emergency you can take cayenne pepper to stop a heart attack? Because it expands your veins back to their normal size thus eliminating the needs for cholesterol blockers and blood thinners..
3 years ago I was having some serious high blood pressure issues and all they wanted me to take was some medication to control it..
Someone on here mentioned cayenne supplementation and my blood pressure normalized within 10 mins and I noticed the veins in my arms get much bigger, like double in size.. I was taking it every day now I only need to maintain one supplement every couple of days and its super cheap..
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Amazing! hf I believe you.
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what does inflammation feel like? Bloating on the inside?
If heaven had a scent it would smell like a bird.
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Living is bad for your health!
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
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He's wrong.That's the one thing your heart needs most of all.
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what does inflammation feel like? Bloating on the inside?
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Pain. One of the main indicators.
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Inflammation = In flama (latin) means in flames.
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what does inflammation feel like? Bloating on the inside?
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Bloating would be bowel inflammation. I notice it after eating gluten foods like pasta or pizza. If you find a gluten free alternative pasta or dough, the bloating isn't there.

At least thats been my experience.

You can also have inflamed arteries/veins which would increase your blood pressure and maybe give you some chest pains. Its also a silent killer because most people don't know its happening unless they go to a doctor routinely.

Our bodies natural remedy to fight disease is to cause heat for some reason.. like in the case of a bad flu our temperature rises, thats the body trying to burn out/kill the virus/bacteria.. sometimes it kills us too right..

Inflammation is just the body trying to fix something.. The problem is it should only inflame for a few days then subside. I think the food/med companies are all in cahoots to poison the food to cause massive inflammation in people to simulate diseases that could easily be fixed by diet change and light exercise.
If they aren't in cahoots to kill us off and make us sicker it could be just cheaper to make gluten foods.. I don't really know, just speculation mostly.
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Also very important to fight inflammation caused by excess of omega 6, counterbalance it with omega 3! and don't forget the omega 9 and 7 also.
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what does inflammation feel like? Bloating on the inside?
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Bloating would be bowel inflammation. I notice it after eating gluten foods like pasta or pizza. If you find a gluten free alternative pasta or dough, the bloating isn't there.

At least thats been my experience.

You can also have inflamed arteries/veins which would increase your blood pressure and maybe give you some chest pains. Its also a silent killer because most people don't know its happening unless they go to a doctor routinely.

Our bodies natural remedy to fight disease is to cause heat for some reason.. like in the case of a bad flu our temperature rises, thats the body trying to burn out/kill the virus/bacteria.. sometimes it kills us too right..

Inflammation is just the body trying to fix something.. The problem is it should only inflame for a few days then subside. I think the food/med companies are all in cahoots to poison the food to cause massive inflammation in people to simulate diseases that could easily be fixed by diet change and light exercise.
If they aren't in cahoots to kill us off and make us sicker it could be just cheaper to make gluten foods.. I don't really know, just speculation mostly.
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100% correct.
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Lots of misinformation in this thread.
Animal flesh and secretions do cause inflammation. Your diet should be no more than 5% animal products. A recent study showed that the diets of most Americans are 94% animal products and processed foods. It's no wonder people are getting sick and making money for doctors.
97% don't get enough fibre. Fibre comes from plants, which keeps your digestive system moving smoothly. Your diet should be mostly plants.
However you absolutely can be very healthy without eating any animal and only eating plants, as the recent documentary The Game Changers has shown.
98% of animal flesh now comes from animals tortured in factory farms and killed on converyor belts of death. It is not "living off the land" to eat meat nowadays.
Besides, industrialized animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire transportation sector. It is the leading cause of wildlife habitat destruction. It poisons waterways with its effluent, most notably the Gulf of Mexico. Eating meat will soon be taxed because of its impact on the environment, like it or not.
There's really no reason to eat animals.
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[link to myscienceacademy.org]

"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
 Quoting: eekers


We have known this for decades eekers managing the inflammation response is what is so maddening. Millions of precursors and cascades all positively/negatively looped in. And when you have comorbidity it makes it even more of a Gordon’s knot.


Great article and thx for posting!

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Also it is not the gluten that is causing problems formost people. It is because farmers are using Roundup to speed up the growing time of wheat. People are allergic to the poison of glyphosate, not wheat itself
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In fact, we should not fight acute inflammation with pharmaceuticals. Anti inflamatories stop that immune response.

It's your body making things back to normal, making your immune bodies to be directed where the problem is and fight it. Problem is the nutritional deficiencies most people have, weak immune systems, weak gut health, body cannot fight what went wrong. Then things get worse. See the snowball?
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Also it is not the gluten that is causing problems formost people. It is because farmers are using Roundup to speed up the growing time of wheat. People are allergic to the poison of glyphosate, not wheat itself
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That could be it.. because something changed about 10 years ago.. I never had a gluten problem and could eat pasta or doughs with no problem. Then all of a sudden I am bloating up.. You're probably right.. How do we know whos using roundup? I've just had success in buying gluten free foods..
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Also it is not the gluten that is causing problems formost people. It is because farmers are using Roundup to speed up the growing time of wheat. People are allergic to the poison of glyphosate, not wheat itself
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Yes gluten causes problems because the wheat of today it's not the same humanity used 5000 years ago for example. Modern wheat, modern fast fermentation allied with killers herbicides, has everything to go wrong!!! And I didn't even touch the GMO subject!

Get this, glyphosate is the only main ingredient you are allowed to know that's inside roundup. What they don't tell you is the worse.
Glyphosate is very bad, imagine what you don't know what's in there that in synergy with glyphosate makes it even worse.
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Dietary saturated fat and cholesterol causes heart disease, period. Animal based sources of these especially encourage atherosclerotic plaque buildup, oxidated trimethylamines, and inflammation.

This is why a whole food plant based diet has been clinically proven to prevent, stop, and even reverse heart disease, including stage IV cases. Bill Clinton, for instance, used WFPB diet to reverse his "death's door" heart disease, by working with the legendary Dr. Dean Ornish, who isn't even vegan.

The American College of Cardiology is the world's foremost authority on the issue and their official position is that, yes, dietary saturated fat and cholesterol is the primary cause of heart disease, trumping even bad genetics or smoking, and that a whole food plant based diet prevents even reverses heart disease in ~90%+ cases.

Remember, we're talking about the #1 killer in the US. This is valuable information that can save lives. Don't get caught up in emotional reactivity or the industry propaganda.
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My dad is vegetarian his whole life. His arteries are fully clogged. Needed bypass surgery after heart attack and then got stints later on. Explain that?
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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Inflammation is caused by several dozen different things. Try not to simplify or state definitive things in regards to health & bio. Maybe share some pubmed papers on your claim but more importantly why not share some natural remedies for Enterovirus. I'm not disagreeing with anything you said just that sharing information is why you are here right?

IMO the biggest cause of health problems in the world is being overweight. When you are overweight your entire body is suffering from Chronic Inflammation.

Control obesity to Control Inflammation but you can also Control Inflammation to control obesity; It's quite interesting. Most important takeaway however is if you Control Inflammation you can stay alive because inflammation leads to almost all disease.

Breaking the Obesity-Inflammation Cycle
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Obesity and cancer: inflammation bridges the two
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Thanks for sharing. I do agree with obesity causing cancer.
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Body inflammation you can cure it with turmeric+black pepper.

Cut lactose and gluten.
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Great advice. I just started in the last week taking 1 teaspoon of olive oil with a capsule of turmeric and a dash of black pepper twice a day with very good results to reduce inflammation.
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Lots of misinformation in this thread.
Animal flesh and secretions do cause inflammation. Your diet should be no more than 5% animal products. A recent study showed that the diets of most Americans are 94% animal products and processed foods. It's no wonder people are getting sick and making money for doctors.
97% don't get enough fibre. Fibre comes from plants, which keeps your digestive system moving smoothly. Your diet should be mostly plants.
However you absolutely can be very healthy without eating any animal and only eating plants, as the recent documentary The Game Changers has shown.
98% of animal flesh now comes from animals tortured in factory farms and killed on converyor belts of death. It is not "living off the land" to eat meat nowadays.
Besides, industrialized animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire transportation sector. It is the leading cause of wildlife habitat destruction. It poisons waterways with its effluent, most notably the Gulf of Mexico. Eating meat will soon be taxed because of its impact on the environment, like it or not.
There's really no reason to eat animals.
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I hope this is the dumbest thing I read today.





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