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Before i start i just want to say that this thread is NOT about me. I do not need any spiritual advice or being told how much ''out of alignment'' i am by focusing on something ''negative''. Please spare yourself from going offtopic by telling ME about myself, and what I NEED to do to find peace. I do not need your help, or your advice. I am here to spread light on some controversial topics, nothing more.

Feel free to discuss the topic, disagree all you want, i will respect your opinion no matter what, but PLEASE dont make this ''personal'' by trying to teach me how to think and what to feel. I have no need for that. Thats not why i am doing this.

On the other hand before i begin, i want to start out by telling my story as brief as i can just to put a perspective of where my ideas/thoughts come from.

Long story made very short:

I started as a ''conspiracy theorist'' about 7 years ago. I learned/saw how ''crazy'' this world really is and got sucked into this freedom movement or whatever you want to call it.

After some time i realised that all of this new information made it harder for me to cope with reality. It made it harder and harder for me to maintain my old life which in many ways was a life full of happiness (eventhough i was very ignorant to the problems of this world).

I realised the hard way that once the mind has learned something its almost impossible to unlearn it and move along as nothing happend.

My interactions with friends and family got harder and harder the more i learned about this world. They all become ignorant to me, so i started to distance myself from them. I became a loner, and i started to sit almost all day home alone reading about how crazy this world is.

After some more time i got to a point where i just couldnt take it anymore, i had in a way painted myself into a corner and i couldnt get out.

I couldnt forget what i learned, and i didnt manage to interact anymore with my friends and family because i couldnt explain properly to them what i learned about this world without getting angry or frustrated whenever they ignored my beliefs.

I was stuck, depressed, fed up about my ''new life'' and i needed to find my way out of it.

Then one day i started to read a bit more into the new age movement which is basically almost impossible to avoid if you are into the ''freedom movement''. Its everywhere, and has exploded the last 5-10 years.

I wanted to see what it was all about. I decided to give it a chance just to see if it could give me anything, if it could enhance my perception and maybe ease up my frustrated mind a little.

And im very glad that i did, because in many ways it freed me, and it led me to the point where i am today.

But sadly, or not sadly really, today i am here trying to ''take down'' or discredit this movement as i belive there is a better way of presenting what ''freed me'' than what is mainly being presented as of now. I belive that this new age movement is full of lies and liars, dreamers, false hopes, told by narcissists and people with a big ego. And i belive that this is ''hurting'' all the valuable information that is contained inside this ''movement''.

I belive there is a better way, and belive me i do not claim to have all the answers, i do not claim to be all knowing, or to know the entire truth, but i do know NOW that this movement MUST and will evolve itself into something better, more wiser, easier as time passes for us to get where we want to be.

I want to be a part of that, as these are things that really interests me, but again as stated earlier, this is NOT about me. I do NOT want to be a guru, a teacher, or whatever you want to call it.

I want to create a discussion, raise some ideas, ask the difficult questions that it seems very few dare to ask, to help evolve this ''big idea'', that i belive will help push humanity forwards when time is due.

Right now i do not belive we are ready, we are in learning curve still, but i know that one day we will be ''ready''.

As of now, i belive that many people are still lost, damaged, hurted, trapped in their own ego, living in a ''bubble of safety'' and not able to stand up for or front their own ideas. They are followers, and get their belives from others.

I belive that the ego is where we all struggle most, and i also belive that this is the place where most of the ''gurus'' and spiritual teachers also are lost. Its the main ingridient of where everything is wrong with this world.

Power corrupts, and it will always do.

Theres so many ''far out there'' ideas in this movement that cannot be proven (as of now), that are just HOPE (to be very honest) and i belive that many of these ideas are slowing us down.

Many of us has become dreamers, we have started waited for something to happen, instead of communicating, getting together and create the solutions that we need.

Now i could write for hours and hours about this (and i will), but i want to stop here to not make the first post to long since my exerpience so far is that the longest posts often get ignored. So i will stop here, and continue down below, but before i end i just want to say;

I really want YOU to contribute to this thread if you can relate to any of the things ive been writing about. You dont have to agree with me, you dont have to share all my opinions, i just want YOU to share the opinions you have deep deep inside of you, whatever it is!

I will continue this thread and i will get to the point why i belive that so many of our current ''gurus'' are liars/scammers (harsh words), but like i said, feel free to share your opinion about all of this whether you agree or not.

I belive that we NEED more communication, and not just the following/repeating of the opinions of the ''few''.

Dare to be YOURSELF!

Dare to say whatever you WANT TO SAY!

Be FREE!

To be continued very soon;

Namaste =)
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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It sounds to me like the OP needs to raise his vibrations. His negativity is attracting negative events into his life to teach him a lesson that he doesn't seem to be getting. Instead he is projecting his own failings on the very people who are trying to help him. You have to love yourself and project love and light into your reality so that it can be reflected back to you.
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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The new age movement is not just a scam. The whole thing is based upon spirituality which is very real. It all depends how far you are willing to let your mind wander.

Some people (in my opinion), dream theirselves away, and get stuck in a dream.

Most of the new age movement we see today is spirituality ideas that goes thousands of years back, mixed with the ideas of for example madame blavatsky, crowley and other occult teachers.

I belive that we should stick with what we KNOW is true, that is more than enough!

And then we should put all the ufo, law of attraction ideas away until someone can actually proove it (not saying that someone ever will).

What im basically trying to say is shortly, that many very very good ideas about the human spirituality has been hijacked with ideas that the ego would love to be true.

Like the idea that ufos will come save us, or that all we need to do is to be happy and that everything will go by itself, or that law attraction will sort out it all.

We have to remove the ''lies'' from the facts.

We have to stop dreaming and start reacting with something that WORKS, and that is prooven that works.

If not we are just doomed to WAIT!

And i think by now, most people had enough of WAITING =)
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It sounds to me like the OP needs to raise his vibrations. His negativity is attracting negative events into his life to teach him a lesson that he doesn't seem to be getting. Instead he is projecting his own failings on the very people who are trying to help him. You have to love yourself and project love and light into your reality so that it can be reflected back to you.
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I am currently on a 62 days sailing vacation in the carribean (im Norwegian), so i can assure you that i am very happy and i dont have the need to vibrate away any negative events in my life =)
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Your post implies that what these teachers have to say is full of lies. Firstly, who are you to judge anything they have to say? These teachers certainly never force beliefs upon you, they merely present some ideas that they hold dear to them and offer its wisdom for others.

That being said, it's completely unfair to call their works scam and lies.

The new age movement has taken an angle that leads people to believe they need to go through x amount of steps in a certain way to be happy. All religions and teachings suffer from this flaw.

Only the person can decide what is relevant or not to their life, and admittedly some new age movement material will try to buy you into just another belief system that mimics others. But people need to break any idea of a kind of "system." Free thought does not entail strict guidelines and law.

Realize that's already all within you, just be present and let it all unwind as it's always been intended by your highest guidance and wisdom.
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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The new age movement is not just a scam. The whole thing is based upon spirituality which is very real. It all depends how far you are willing to let your mind wander.

Some people (in my opinion), dream theirselves away, and get stuck in a dream.

Most of the new age movement we see today is spirituality ideas that goes thousands of years back, mixed with the ideas of for example madame blavatsky, crowley and other occult teachers.

I belive that we should stick with what we KNOW is true, that is more than enough!

And then we should put all the ufo, law of attraction ideas away until someone can actually proove it (not saying that someone ever will).

What im basically trying to say is shortly, that many very very good ideas about the human spirituality has been hijacked with ideas that the ego would love to be true.

Like the idea that ufos will come save us, or that all we need to do is to be happy and that everything will go by itself, or that law attraction will sort out it all.

We have to remove the ''lies'' from the facts.

We have to stop dreaming and start reacting with something that WORKS, and that is prooven that works.

If not we are just doomed to WAIT!

And i think by now, most people had enough of WAITING =)
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Fair enough. Which parts do you consider fact?
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Bump for later.
1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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Your post implies that what these teachers have to say is full of lies. Firstly, who are you to judge anything they have to say? These teachers certainly never force beliefs upon you, they merely present some ideas that they hold dear to them and offer its wisdom for others.

That being said, it's completely unfair to call their works scam and lies.

The new age movement has taken an angle that leads people to believe they need to go through x amount of steps in a certain way to be happy. All religions and teachings suffer from this flaw.

Only the person can decide what is relevant or not to their life, and admittedly some new age movement material will try to buy you into just another belief system that mimics others. But people need to break any idea of a kind of "system." Free thought does not entail strict guidelines and law.

Realize that's already all within you, just be present and let it all unwind as it's always been intended by your highest guidance and wisdom.
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I belive in spirituality. I am spiritual person and i share MOST the opinions that these ''teachers'' teach.

But i do NOT belive in the law of attraction.

I do not belive that ufos will come and help us.

I do not belive that Teal Scott is an Alien.

I do not belive that Bashar channels an Alien.

I belive that they are teaching us to WAIT for this world to be saved.

When it is US that has to do it!

They are earning great money on what they are doing, because they are teaching something FAR OUT THERE.

Teachings that are MAINLY based upon the teachings of Madame Blavatsky and people like Alister Crowley.

It is disempowering to the people who are learning.

True spiritual teachings is being washed out with lies.

Nothing they say or teach is new, its all based upon old teachings. They have taken a little from this, and a little from that.

I belive that we have to create a better recipe.

I belive that these people are doing more harm than good =)
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OP believes that all gurus are false teachers except himself.
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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The new age movement is not just a scam. The whole thing is based upon spirituality which is very real. It all depends how far you are willing to let your mind wander.

Some people (in my opinion), dream theirselves away, and get stuck in a dream.

Most of the new age movement we see today is spirituality ideas that goes thousands of years back, mixed with the ideas of for example madame blavatsky, crowley and other occult teachers.

I belive that we should stick with what we KNOW is true, that is more than enough!

And then we should put all the ufo, law of attraction ideas away until someone can actually proove it (not saying that someone ever will).

What im basically trying to say is shortly, that many very very good ideas about the human spirituality has been hijacked with ideas that the ego would love to be true.

Like the idea that ufos will come save us, or that all we need to do is to be happy and that everything will go by itself, or that law attraction will sort out it all.

We have to remove the ''lies'' from the facts.

We have to stop dreaming and start reacting with something that WORKS, and that is prooven that works.

If not we are just doomed to WAIT!

And i think by now, most people had enough of WAITING =)
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Fair enough. Which parts do you consider fact?
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I belive that the most important thing that spirituality can teach you is to find yourself. Your true self. The person behind all the fear and limitations that has been implented by all the norms and social rules in this society.

To me, if you want to find your true self you have to remove all the fears that is keeping you away from ''being able'' to act out your true self. Meaning you have to remove all the ideas/thoughts/fears that is keeping you from being you. You have to dare to do something wrong every now and then. You have to lose the fear of it.

Thinking is in my opinion something that imprisons you. Many people sit home and think about all the bad things that people will think of them if they do this or this. What will people say, what will people think. They dont dare to do something before they are absolutely sure that its '' safe'' to do it without getting ridiculed or questioned.

If you live in a ''careless'' state where you just dare to experience, where you dare to try, you will understand what to do with your life, how to get where you want to be much faster.

Some people can think about doing certain things for years before they do it. Some will never even try.

Thinking is the slowest possible way of getting where you want to be.

Experience is the fastest teacher.

We have to DARE to learn from expericene. We have to LEARN how to jump out there and expose ourselves. We have to dare to do something wrong, something embarresing, something that other people will not understand. We have to realise that this is fastest way to understand where or what we what we want to do.

The more you are able to act out your true self, the more you will learn about your true self. The further you follow this road, the more you will learn.

OP believes that all gurus are false teachers except himself.
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Im not sure if you are just trying to provoke me or what you are trying to do. If you did the minimal requirments by reading the first post you would see that ive repeated twice that i DO NOT want to be a guru. I want to create a discussion.

Is there ANYTHING you want to discuss? =)
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All of the new age teachers are telling you that if you sit home and THINK the right thoughts, that if you FEEL the right vibration, then happiness will come to you.

Or they say that aliens will come, if you just BELIVE in them 100% they will come and save us.

All of of this is about US waiting, for SOMETHING that we cannot control to happen.

Its FOOLING US!

We are the only ones in control, and we are the ONLY ONES who will save this planet.

95 % of their ideas come from OLD spiritual ideas that was invented hundreds of years before they where even borned. It is not something NEW!

Even some of the FAR OUT things they teach is not something new, but something they have ''stole'' or copied from others.

Madame Blavatsky was the first person on EARTH talking about the akashic records. She claimed that she learned it from some munks in the eastern world but no proof has EVER been made about this, nor has any scriptures been found to be back up these claims.

But still, we have people today like Bashar, and Teal Scott who are talking the same bullshit about the Akashic Records.

Now it MIGHT be true. But there is NO proof whatsover for any of the far out claims.

It is false hope feeded to people who are lost and that need hope.

I will be the first to admit that i was one of these people, i am not afraid to admit. They fucking fooled me, and they captured me, but only for a while.

I was going in circles when i followed these people. It took me absolutely NOWHERE!

If these people have the powers that they claim to have, WHY dont they proove it?
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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Yes go back to sleep you silly sheep do not awaken
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OPs doubts and skeptical attitude is what's holding him back. If you project doubts and negative thoughts into your reality then that's what you will receive beck tenfold. You harvest what you plant and OPs harvest will be bitter unless he raises his vibrations.
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OPs doubts and skeptical attitude is what's holding him back. If you project doubts and negative thoughts into your reality then that's what you will receive beck tenfold. You harvest what you plant and OPs harvest will be bitter unless he raises his vibrations.
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So in your world there is no war, there is no hunger, there is no poverty, there is no bad things? Because you have a good vibration?

All these gurus tell you that we shall not focus about the negative but only the positive, yet the world is full of misery, its fucking dying, and they are telling you to turn the other way and everything will be ok.

And in the meanwhile THEY are fucking running to the bank from preaching these teachings.

Yet there is NO proof for their claims.

95% of what they say is true, but its all old spiritual ideas. And they mix it with this grandiose lie that if you just focus on good things, suddenly out of nowhere, the whole world will become nothing but butterflies and happiness.

Its very very destructive.

Its the EASY way out, for those not capable to speak up yet. The easiest ''solution'' of them all, and they know that so many peoples egos will accept this as ''truth''. They are stuck in the very same lie themselves.

I do not neccesarily say that all these teachers are evil. But they are delusional, not willing to look at the bitter truth. They want us to ignore all our problems and to do NOTHING about it.

They want us to become narcissists, because that is what they are themselves.

I do not hate them for this, i feel sorry for them, because they are lost in their own ego. They are dreamers.

=)

The law of attraction thing, that you are
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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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Yes go back to sleep you silly sheep do not awaken
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Judging you attitude you dont seem very ''awakened'' yourself =)

If you where awakened like you claimed to be you would have the love to show compassion for your fellow brothers and sisters no matter what their belifes are.

But it seems to me that most ''lightworkers'' only judge and ''hate'' the people that dont agree with them.

That doesnt seem very awakened to me.
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I believe in Gregg Bradens mullet.
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The new age movement is a total scan because all the modern stuff was created by new world satanists like Alice bailey

The older stuff like the Hindu yoga stuff is all demon worship. Wilcock channels demons as do all others that channel

The new age leaders like Bailey said they would have to Kill all the Christians!

Why because only Jesus stops any demon and gives you eternal life

Your only hope is Jesus Christ. Anybody that tells you different is a liar for satan

All who deny Christ will Burn in hell forever if they don't repent before they die. If you stay in a homosexual relationship and never repent you go to hell even if you are the Pope and pray every day. You must give up your sins no matter what these liars for satan tell you

You must come to Christ and believe the Bible is Gods word and 100% truth. You must rebuke the satanic evolution lie that says you came from monkeys! If you can't do that at this time then God says if you died right now you will go to hell!

Only a fool doubts Gods word when over 2000 Bible prophecies came true! Not one liar for satan can show you a new age or Hindu or Muslim book with 2000 Fulfilled prophecies and zero errors. It makes demons real mad but they can't do it cuz demons are liars just like their daddy!
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Your post implies that what these teachers have to say is full of lies. Firstly, who are you to judge anything they have to say? These teachers certainly never force beliefs upon you, they merely present some ideas that they hold dear to them and offer its wisdom for others.
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Yes it is full of lies, false claimes, uncertanties at best. Teal Scott claims to be an alien. Bashar claims to channel one. Laura Pleaiadian claims aliens will come and save us.

And then they mix all of this out with OLD spiritual teachings. I do not question the spiritual teachings as im a spiritual person myself. I question that they mislead people and destroy the real spiritual teaching with lies for their own profit.

That being said, it's completely unfair to call their works scam and lies.
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Why?

The new age movement has taken an angle that leads people to believe they need to go through x amount of steps in a certain way to be happy. All religions and teachings suffer from this flaw.

Only the person can decide what is relevant or not to their life, and admittedly some new age movement material will try to buy you into just another belief system that mimics others. But people need to break any idea of a kind of "system." Free thought does not entail strict guidelines and law.
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The new age movement has mainly taken old teachings and mixed it with mumbojumbo and ufo cult information to distort the information. That is what im questioning, nothing else, nothing more.

Realize that's already all within you, just be present and let it all unwind as it's always been intended by your highest guidance and wisdom.
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I have written many threads on this forum about going withing and being in the present moment. Why do you presume that i do not understand these teachings just because i question some gurus?

Thread: The miracle is in the MOMENT! Change your life today =)
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Jesus would have been considered a new age teacher 2000 years ago that upset people like new age teachers do today, lucky for the new age teachers today that crucifixion is no longer in fashion.
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Bashar is the cousin of Paul Anka (the singer). He is grown up in Hollywood in the film industry. He did special effects for several big movies. He is for what all i know brainwashed, or just a puppet for the same people running hollywood.

Teal Scott has a background story that doesnt add up at all if you do your investigation. Its full of lies and things that doesnt make up. She claims to be an alien, all knowing, yet she has never prooven any of her ''powers''.

All their teachings are old old stolen teachings, mixed with this new age bullshit.

She has triangles with the illuminati eye tattooed on her arm.

Dont be so fucking blind people!

Wake up =)
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OP doesn't sound ready to ascend to the fifth dimension. Clearly he will be one of the many left behind to seed the new world and start the evolutionary process over again.

We'll see you in a few hundred million years OP. Remember it's all about raising your vibrations and projecting love and light.
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OP doesn't sound ready to ascend to the fifth dimension. Clearly he will be one of the many left behind to seed the new world and start the evolutionary process over again.

We'll see you in a few hundred million years OP. Remember it's all about raising your vibrations and projecting love and light.
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Your love is egocentrical love towards yourself.

See this movie =)

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The whole New Age movement is definitely a scam. A bunch of ignorant new age hippies that are focused on nothing but themselves and their "awakening". Just another huge part of the disinformation.
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The new age movement is not just a scam. The whole thing is based upon spirituality which is very real. It all depends how far you are willing to let your mind wander.

Some people (in my opinion), dream theirselves away, and get stuck in a dream.

Most of the new age movement we see today is spirituality ideas that goes thousands of years back, mixed with the ideas of for example madame blavatsky, crowley and other occult teachers.

I belive that we should stick with what we KNOW is true, that is more than enough!

And then we should put all the ufo, law of attraction ideas away until someone can actually proove it (not saying that someone ever will).

What im basically trying to say is shortly, that many very very good ideas about the human spirituality has been hijacked with ideas that the ego would love to be true.

Like the idea that ufos will come save us, or that all we need to do is to be happy and that everything will go by itself, or that law attraction will sort out it all.

We have to remove the ''lies'' from the facts.

We have to stop dreaming and start reacting with something that WORKS, and that is prooven that works.

If not we are just doomed to WAIT!

And i think by now, most people had enough of WAITING =)
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Fair enough. Which parts do you consider fact?
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I belive that the most important thing that spirituality can teach you is to find yourself. Your true self. The person behind all the fear and limitations that has been implented by all the norms and social rules in this society.

To me, if you want to find your true self you have to remove all the fears that is keeping you away from ''being able'' to act out your true self. Meaning you have to remove all the ideas/thoughts/fears that is keeping you from being you. You have to dare to do something wrong every now and then. You have to lose the fear of it.

Thinking is in my opinion something that imprisons you. Many people sit home and think about all the bad things that people will think of them if they do this or this. What will people say, what will people think. They dont dare to do something before they are absolutely sure that its '' safe'' to do it without getting ridiculed or questioned.

If you live in a ''careless'' state where you just dare to experience, where you dare to try, you will understand what to do with your life, how to get where you want to be much faster.

Some people can think about doing certain things for years before they do it. Some will never even try.

Thinking is the slowest possible way of getting where you want to be.

Experience is the fastest teacher.

We have to DARE to learn from expericene. We have to LEARN how to jump out there and expose ourselves. We have to dare to do something wrong, something embarresing, something that other people will not understand. We have to realise that this is fastest way to understand where or what we what we want to do.

The more you are able to act out your true self, the more you will learn about your true self. The further you follow this road, the more you will learn.

OP believes that all gurus are false teachers except himself.
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Im not sure if you are just trying to provoke me or what you are trying to do. If you did the minimal requirments by reading the first post you would see that ive repeated twice that i DO NOT want to be a guru. I want to create a discussion.

Is there ANYTHING you want to discuss? =)
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This actually spoke pretty deeply to me. I am going through some heavy stuff and this really did help give me more perspective. Was it a coincidence that you wrote it and I read it at this time? Maybe, maybe not.
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The new age movement is not just a scam. The whole thing is based upon spirituality which is very real. It all depends how far you are willing to let your mind wander.

Some people (in my opinion), dream theirselves away, and get stuck in a dream.

Most of the new age movement we see today is spirituality ideas that goes thousands of years back, mixed with the ideas of for example madame blavatsky, crowley and other occult teachers.

I belive that we should stick with what we KNOW is true, that is more than enough!

And then we should put all the ufo, law of attraction ideas away until someone can actually proove it (not saying that someone ever will).

What im basically trying to say is shortly, that many very very good ideas about the human spirituality has been hijacked with ideas that the ego would love to be true.

Like the idea that ufos will come save us, or that all we need to do is to be happy and that everything will go by itself, or that law attraction will sort out it all.

We have to remove the ''lies'' from the facts.

We have to stop dreaming and start reacting with something that WORKS, and that is prooven that works.

If not we are just doomed to WAIT!

And i think by now, most people had enough of WAITING =)
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Fair enough. Which parts do you consider fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52983756


I belive that the most important thing that spirituality can teach you is to find yourself. Your true self. The person behind all the fear and limitations that has been implented by all the norms and social rules in this society.

To me, if you want to find your true self you have to remove all the fears that is keeping you away from ''being able'' to act out your true self. Meaning you have to remove all the ideas/thoughts/fears that is keeping you from being you. You have to dare to do something wrong every now and then. You have to lose the fear of it.

Thinking is in my opinion something that imprisons you. Many people sit home and think about all the bad things that people will think of them if they do this or this. What will people say, what will people think. They dont dare to do something before they are absolutely sure that its '' safe'' to do it without getting ridiculed or questioned.

If you live in a ''careless'' state where you just dare to experience, where you dare to try, you will understand what to do with your life, how to get where you want to be much faster.

Some people can think about doing certain things for years before they do it. Some will never even try.

Thinking is the slowest possible way of getting where you want to be.

Experience is the fastest teacher.

We have to DARE to learn from expericene. We have to LEARN how to jump out there and expose ourselves. We have to dare to do something wrong, something embarresing, something that other people will not understand. We have to realise that this is fastest way to understand where or what we what we want to do.

The more you are able to act out your true self, the more you will learn about your true self. The further you follow this road, the more you will learn.

OP believes that all gurus are false teachers except himself.
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Im not sure if you are just trying to provoke me or what you are trying to do. If you did the minimal requirments by reading the first post you would see that ive repeated twice that i DO NOT want to be a guru. I want to create a discussion.

Is there ANYTHING you want to discuss? =)
 Quoting: D0NTBeAfraidEVER


This actually spoke pretty deeply to me. I am going through some heavy stuff and this really did help give me more perspective. Was it a coincidence that you wrote it and I read it at this time? Maybe, maybe not.
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Dont get me wrong, i also belive there is more between heaven and earth that we do not understand =) Synchrosity is a in interesting subject but im not completly sure what to belive about it.

Ive also felt so many times that i stumble upon information at the right time, in all kinds of places, now why this happens i do not know.

But i do belive that it might has to do something about what we put our attention to.

Ive noticed for example that if im interested in a certain subject then i seem to stumble upon soooo many threads on this forum concering the same topics. But then ive thought to myself, is it because thats where ive put my awerness towards? If i wasnt interested in a subject before, i never put attention to it, therefore i never saw it for what it was before.

Same with things i ''do not like''. If i do not like something its in my awarness and when scrolling down the list of threads something in my awareness will put my attention to it and make me more aware about it.

If the topic is not ''on the mind'' it might get ''ignored'' not noticed, but might as well has been there all the time.

Its about the attention to some extent i think.

But i am not completly in denial of there being something more ''far out there'' behind it =)

Anyways, glad to hear that you could relate to some of what i wrote.

I wish you the best on your journey =)
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I would recommend anyone who hasnt read Socrates, Plato, Kant, Voltaire, Husserl, Epikur (basically older spiritual teachings) to look them up and see how similar it is to what these guys are teaching. It is nothing new.

Then read the history of Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Crowley etc and see where all the mumbojambo comes from.

:D
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Thread: Do you like Teal Scott or Bashar?
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Believe me op I do understand the new agers are sooo full of shit it isn,t funny--they actually do want you to believe in the mushrooms -totally lol! I am being serious I met a couple and after a while the woman wanted real bad to have sex with me -but felt that if the vibrations or channeling wasn't up to speed she had to mull it over all the while her boyfriend who spent his all money on her sit in a trance evry day channeling demons -when I asked him what has he ever learned and how to fix the world he just looked at me with this stupid look on his face-but she was forever pulling up her top and showing me her huge breasts and wanting to play -I told her he was full of shit and she was just a plaything for him to get blowjobs-She is still screwed up as she plays the whole new age bullshit right along with him-when you tell them about Jesus and that they suck because they are idiots -man it gets really funny after that-new agers are idiots plain and simple but will drag you alongh if you allow it -stop them now and hold to your beliefs because they hate that!
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Yes it's the blind leading the blind. Anyone who lives in the world on this side of the veil cannot be a true teacher because they cannot offer a perspective other than the ones we are already aware of or can find for ourselves.
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I like listening to Kryon though :(

Bashar is too aggressive
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Believe me op I do understand the new agers are sooo full of shit it isn,t funny--they actually do want you to believe in the mushrooms -totally lol! I am being serious I met a couple and after a while the woman wanted real bad to have sex with me -but felt that if the vibrations or channeling wasn't up to speed she had to mull it over all the while her boyfriend who spent his all money on her sit in a trance evry day channeling demons -when I asked him what has he ever learned and how to fix the world he just looked at me with this stupid look on his face-but she was forever pulling up her top and showing me her huge breasts and wanting to play -I told her he was full of shit and she was just a plaything for him to get blowjobs-She is still screwed up as she plays the whole new age bullshit right along with him-when you tell them about Jesus and that they suck because they are idiots -man it gets really funny after that-new agers are idiots plain and simple but will drag you alongh if you allow it -stop them now and hold to your beliefs because they hate that!
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this is what you would expect from a jebus freak

not that im a new ager, cuz im not... buuuuut when you look at the typography, you see a very wound tight individual who ridicules that which they themselves are

winning souls?? and putting down anything un jebus?? so cliche

this is the type to watch for....if they bring honest info to you, then why not believe what they have to say...the truth is stranger than fiction...

youll know when its a money scam....dont forget we live in a world made of money, so you will have the good the bad and the ugly mixxed in....

personally, i could care less what anyone believes, the problem is those beliefs bind them to undo or unnecessary suffering, many suffer from serious mental issues that cannot be healed....they simply refuse to except anything outside of their box...

i incorporate all religions and cultures as well as all histories.... not just the scribblings of marduck the victor writes history bullshit... but from all the old kingdoms...

belief is only 10% of the equation when someone can hook someone on something unknown...

im a good fisherman, i know what lure to use to catch the type of fish i want to eat....

keep going your doing a good job so far, the rabbit hole is deep and bloody, some think there is no bottom but i assure you there is and we as a group are almost there...

much love...
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