I know this isn't the best place for this, but I have a prayer request please

Prayer sent

Christ is sooooo much stronger than any curse anyone could put on a Christian.
Op, this is not the wrong place.

Did they truly believe when they prayed, or did they doubt God was even there and that their prayer wouldn't be answered.
You never know others heart fully.

mmmm this is complicated...so many variables i suppose ... but if you think about loving positive frequencies joining together with purposeful intent, seems sooner or later something good is going to come of it...even if not exactly what was prayed for?
i have felt the effects of prayer directly in my life and i have also witnessed what appears as no effect at all?
a little boy sat with me the other day and in open sadness confessed that he had been praying and praying to god to give him back his superpowers but he hasn't gotten them back yet. he starts questioning not only prayer but god and i am in over my head. see?
still, something in my heart coupled with those personal experiences lends me to prayer.

You can of course question the majority of the hearts, but its just another way to lie to yourself.
See, I said I know a lot of people prayed for a certain topic. The bible says, if two or more come together blabla you know the verse. So if we assume at least two hearts of a crowd are sincere, we should get some result. Right?

But if this does not happen, we tell us, god knows better.
This way god always wins, no matter what or if it makes sense or sticks to what the bible promises. Without this thought construct the faith in prayer would dwindle rapidly.

I dont want to insult the ones believing in prayer, just saying. After all I sincerely believed in it some time.

Last Edited by Face Palmer on 01/28/2014 10:03 AM

No one?

I can't endorse something when I don't know what that thing is. But I sent best wishes for you, your son and his friends.

The thing is, He DOES know better. We see what is in front of us, and know the desire of our own heart.

He sees everything and knows better than our own desire. It says that He works ALL things together for good, for those that love Him, for those called according to His purpose.

That being said, something may appear to be bad, or to work out in failure, but in the end His promise is that it will be good...maybe not from our perspective at the moment, but in time it will prove to be right.

I prayed and prayed for God to allow me to marry a girl that I grew up with. We were best friends through High School, but it never worked out. I was bitter and oftetimes did not even want to think about God because of it.

Here I set today with 4 kids, another on the way and very happily married to a different woman. Who knows what would have happened if I had married the first girl, but one thing I do know, is that it would not be as good as my life is now...

Learning to trust God is difficult, because it basically entails giving away what little perceived control we have in our lives, to a Person that you cannot even see. Jesus told Thomas that He was blessed for believing in Him, but those who believe without even seeing Him would be even more blessed.

He never promised the road would be easy, that there wouldn't be difficult times, pain, questions, doubt...He promised that He would be there, watching out for us every step of the way, and that He would make all things work together for good, in the end.

First off: Thank you for replying. I know its a difficult topic.

However, this is a contradiction to Matthew 18,19 in my opinion, as this particular verse is not bound to gods decision or other circumstances.

Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.


This is a promise I'd say. A promise that more than often is simply not kept.

Done.

praying

Prayers sent, OP.

I AM an infinite amount of strength

when i accept I AM

I will be a SELF so grand it will make the grandest of miracles appears as is

and I will find the strength to open this door through U

in the NAME of


now we dance

It has taken me many years to come to the conclusion that I now adhere to: when there is an apparent contradiction in the Bible, it is my own understanding that is conflicted, not the Scripture. That takes faith, and indeed that is what the Bible tells us to have. (Certainly, it is NOT EASY!)

I found this quote on a site about unanswered prayer:

"I believe that most of the experiences of unanswered prayer which we have as followers of Christ can be explained in this way. It’s not that God has refused to grant us our desires-he has simply understood them better than we have. Appreciating this can do wonders to keep us from losing heart when our prayers seem to go unheeded."

I think of the example of when Lazarus died. Mary and Martha (2 people with the same desire) asked Jesus to come and heal him, because he was sick. Instead, Jesus waited a few days (Lazarus died) and then went to see them. When He got there, they were like "if only you would have came sooner, he would still be alive"...

Jesus did not meet their request, but instead, He went on to do an even greater miracle than healing Lazarus, He brought him back from the dead.

This is the same kind of situation that many of us find ourselves in. We pray for something, something we sincerely desire, and it does not come to fruition. This causes doubt, anger, frustration, etc. at God for not doing what He said He would do.

However, as we mature and grow in the faith, we realize that it is not that He didn't fulfill His promise of granting the prayer request, but instead was planning something even better. Delay is not denial, but it is easy to slip into the category of thinking we were denied, when the answer does not come in the timing we wanted, needed or thought it should happen in.

The Bible must be taken as a whole. It is easy to pick verses here in there and make a doctrine out of them (this is how cults are perpetuated...) When the Bible says "And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him."
1 John 5

His will is to answer our prayers, as you have pointed out, but that might not look like what we want, what we think we want, or when we want it to happen. Again, this takes faith and faith is not a cop-out, a crutch, or easy, by any stretch of the imagination. Faith-filled living is a very difficult thing, especially when it goes against everything within us to trust that which we cannot see...it is only at this place however, that we can begin to see God...and experience His work in our lives...

I know it may seem like I am dodging the question, I have been where you are and I still find myself in the same place at times. It is difficult for me to try and explain what it takes to trust the Creator, from a position that I am no longer in (once you experience God in a real way, there is no going back)...regardless, I hope this has helped in some small way.

Heavenly Father,

In Jesus' Name, I ask that you would grant the prayers for the OP's son and friends.
Increase her faith to believe and trust You in ALL things...

Amen

Well, I have to admit there is not much I have to put against this argument.
But there is one point I'd like to talk about, it is when and where did the bible tells us, prayers may be rejected for the greater good?
I totally get your point, however there must be some verse who elaborates on this?

my best headeded your way