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This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?

 
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
An electric tankless water heater may be what you are looking for [link to www.lowes.com]
 Quoting: Resister


Electric tankless units tend to be incredibly unreliable and prone to burning out. Gas units are much better. Under the circumstances, OP is best off buying the lowest quantity that he can reasonably buy at $3.25 - though I'd probably go for 200 gal. Use the systems in place - there's serious money to be spent changing them, especially on a rental.

Just buy the propane for now - make changes in the summer, or fill the tank when/if the price drops a lot.
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I have no experience with the tankless systems. I was just offering that as an option that he might be able to put in-line himself and plug into a wall quickly for less than a full tank of propane.

We have a regular electric water heater with about a 50 gallon tank. Just replaced it. The last one came with the house and lasted almost 20 years. It was very reliable.
 Quoting: Resister


Tank type electric units are very reliable, as long as the tank is always filled with water. The tankless ones require massive current to flash heat the water, and the shock heating/cooling of the elements and possible lack of sufficient water to carry off the heat(when you shut off the water) tends to give these units a very short life. I've dealt with several and don't trust the tech yet. Gas units can be pretty good though.

The "camping shower" propane heater unit can be good, and I've used one, but they tend to be underpowered for a shower in winter. They are available much cheaper on Amazon and Ebay, and are good as SHTF backups, IF you are really comfortable in quickly adding them. In a pinch, you can hook one up to the washing machine hoses, but having even a 20lb propane tank in the house is illegal and potentially dangerous - propane leaks will flow and pool close to the ground, then flash wildly if there's any sort of flame or spark.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Get a Portable Buddy,hose and 25 pound tank......We have 2 and they are wonderful! [link to www.google.com]
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Just out of curiosity, who is your supplier? Does the landlord own the tank or is it a rental?
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


I'm not sure of the supplier, and i'm guessing he owns the tank since he built the house and lived there for 10 years.

I just called the propane company, in order to get the truck to come today i'd have to get it filled 100%. For 200gallons, i have to wait until Wednesday next week.. so like 9 or 10 days. I guess i'll try the Cabela shower and get a blue Rhino hooked up..
 Quoting: Friskel


If he owns the tank you can buy from any supplier. You might see if there are any other companies that can service you. BTW, rent tanks normally have a sticker on them that says, "Property of XYZ Propane." If no sticker, assume it is owned.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
I signed up for a price lock in back in Dec. for 2.50 / gallon. Just in time.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
you better make sure you are heating up the ENTIRE HOUSE, you do not want your pipes to freeze and then burst. $1300 is nothing compared to the price and stress of having to repair your home if your pipes were to freeze
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
It's around USD 4000 over here.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Why don’t you idiots just use electric
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
I just got 112 gallons last week for 2.89 a gallon.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
My last supply was 1.32 per gallon delivered . Check" propane prices index mundi" this gives you the real price they pay out of Texas the rest is just delivery fees.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Propane prices index mundi .40 cents a gallon you are being RIPPED OFF .This is what the market is based on.
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03/09/2020 07:59 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Just get a Blue Rhino. They're only like $20 bucks.
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Dis^,
We have a 1000 gallon tank, I can hookup a 5 gallon tank and works fine.
Ask propane company for just minimal fill, keep using wood burning for heat as much as possible.
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03/09/2020 08:02 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Why don’t you idiots just use electric
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How do you even get out of bed every day knowing you’re a MORAN!!!
Electric heat is extremely expensive!
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
In most areas propane is the most expensive source of heat. It is though a good backup energy source when all else fails. If you can put in, heat on demand, electric water heaters or at least an electric water heater. If still allowed use wood for back up energy. A solar water heater is fairly easy to build. Use it as hot water or as a pre warming system for the water heater.
Good luck
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Price of propane fluctuates with the petroleum market so it should be going down Check Propane prices index mundi.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
I'm in the northeast Phila area last delivery 1.32 a gallon " propane prices index mundi."
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
So I saw a thread about a week ago talking about propane users being screwed. I was not home at the time and thought I had natural gas.

When I got home yesterday, (I just started renting this house a month ago) all of the heat was out, no hot water, stove, etc so I just assumed I was out of gas and would get it filled today. Made a fire, turned on some space heaters and I was fine. I don't need a hot shower every day.

Called thismorning, and it's going to be $1300 to fill the 500 gal tank 80% (400 gal), at $3.25 a gallon.

I can keep the house hot, but is there any way to bypass the water heater or something and electrically heat my water?

If anyone has any ideas for working around not using propane in the Boulder mountains, please let me know5a
 Quoting: Friskel


You should have had em put in maybe 200 gal to get you through the next couple months. Fill it in July when the prices are way cheaper. Never fill in the middle of winter.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
There is a control valve on the water heater towards the bottom, it usually has a red or black knob on top of a silver looking box. Turn that to the off position and you are good to go.

FYI, you don't have to fill the tank, most places have 100 gal. minimum.
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


Are you talking about disabling the boiler? I found a switch, and before it had been clicking nonstop (a toilet upstairs was running constantly) and i turned off this switch and it doesn't turn on anymore.

So I should be good there, correct? Also, my landlord just said that I need to get at least a little bit in there because some of the pipes underneath the house will freeze, or something like that? Do you know anything about that?

Thanks GasMan
 Quoting: Friskel


Same with my house. The landlord put in a couple heat lamps with automatic thermostats that turn on the lamps when temps get down to i think 36. = expensive power bill in winter.
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03/09/2020 08:27 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
so whats the doom? $3.25 for gas is pretty cheap.
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Umm.. pretty sure that's ridiculously expensive.. can someone find a chart of the price of propane? I guess it skyrocketed recently. In CO by the way.
 Quoting: Friskel


In south Texas here. I have to pay $3.00 a gallon.
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03/09/2020 08:28 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Propane is cheap
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03/09/2020 08:29 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
1500$ for 500 US gal here, overseas.
You're catching up to our steep prices tounge
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
$3.25 is a bit on the high side. I'd look around for a new supplier. A fairly efficient home shout not use a lot of Propane, it should last at least a couple of months. If not, you need to do some work on your house. A really efficient house could go more than a year on 500 gallons. My 7000 sq ft house goes a couple months on that.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
I paid less than $3 for BBQ tank refills. My contract is under $2 for "keep full" program.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
You could buy a gas powered electric generator and avoid transmission costs. Basically cuts electric bill in half. But cost of generator makes it border line profit imho
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
So I saw a thread about a week ago talking about propane users being screwed. I was not home at the time and thought I had natural gas.

When I got home yesterday, (I just started renting this house a month ago) all of the heat was out, no hot water, stove, etc so I just assumed I was out of gas and would get it filled today. Made a fire, turned on some space heaters and I was fine. I don't need a hot shower every day.

Called thismorning, and it's going to be $1300 to fill the 500 gal tank 80% (400 gal), at $3.25 a gallon.

I can keep the house hot, but is there any way to bypass the water heater or something and electrically heat my water?

If anyone has any ideas for working around not using propane in the Boulder mountains, please let me know5a
 Quoting: Friskel



What??
I just filled a 20lb BBQ tank (4.2 gallons). Price worked out to be about $1.75 per gallon.
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03/09/2020 08:50 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Indeed!!!

Our bill for last month was 150 for what cost us 50 the same time the last two years!!!

We were warned last fall by reports of wet crops needing propane for dryers was in short supply.

Never thought the food shortage crisis would triple a propane bill in Ohio
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03/09/2020 08:51 AM
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
solar heaters, just hook it to a 100gallon tank, valve to empty it when starts freezin and you are good to go. will save lots. you also can run it to floor heating etc.

energy from the sun to cap off most expenses on gas, you easy can save 70%
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
You could buy a gas powered electric generator and avoid transmission costs. Basically cuts electric bill in half. But cost of generator makes it border line profit imho
 Quoting: Nonentity


But even a brand new generac can only run full time for about 6months before a complete rebuild is needed.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
You could buy a gas powered electric generator and avoid transmission costs. Basically cuts electric bill in half. But cost of generator makes it border line profit imho
 Quoting: Nonentity


Cost of generator, cost of gas and maintenance is NOT half the price.
And have you been around a running generator before? It’s terrible!
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
rent a FLIR camera. look where your house has bad isolation. fix that first. You can save a lot with some strips and aluminium tape already.

Second, maybe you dont need to heat your whole house, turn radiators lower in rooms where you hardly go to.

Buy PVT panels and heatpump if you can afford it.
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Re: This propane tank outside of my new house is going to cost $1300 to fill.. wtf?
Build a tire fire.
No need for propane,





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