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Defending our borders with bean bags....

 
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Defending our borders with bean bags....
[link to www.foxnews.com]

Three years after the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry -- a tragedy which exposed and ultimately ended Operation Fast and Furious -- the public is finally getting a glimpse into Terry's final moments.

Federal court records released Tuesday provide the first official account of the firefight along the Arizona-Mexico border that killed Terry in December 2010. Among other details, they reveal two of four federal agents at the scene that day actually fired bean bags -- not bullets -- at a violent drug gang carrying assault rifles. Weapons from the botched anti-gun trafficking program were found at Terry's murder scene.

Such an account was not available until now, with both the FBI and Department of Homeland Security never releasing an incident report and Terry's fellow agents under a gag order.

But as part of the court fight over the sentencing of admitted killer Manuel Osorio-Arellanes, prosecutors released first-hand accounts from three fellow agents involved in the shooting. Those agents, members of BORTAC, an elite unit within the Border Patrol, had deployed in the desert to locate a drug gang, known as a rip crew, that had terrorized the Nogales, Ariz., area for months.

The rip crew's job was to stop and steal the drug loads of competing smugglers. They also terrorized and assaulted human smugglers and otherwise innocent illegal immigrants trying to enter the U.S. Terry's specially trained team was specifically deployed in the desert to stop them.

Documents show that on Dec. 14, 2010, Terry's team was on a hill above a ravine. A ground sensor went off alerting them to the approaching smugglers. When agents yelled "police" in Spanish, the smugglers turned and fired. According to the documents, this happened at 11:08 p.m. Just 52 minutes later, Terry would have been relieved by a second BORTAC team and gone home for Christmas.

"I saw some members of the group point their weapons at us," Agent Gabriel Fragoza declared to the court. "Agent Castano and I deployed less lethal bean bag rounds as the individuals began to shoot at us. I saw muzzle flashes coming from the individuals, then heard Agent Terry say 'I'm hit! I'm hit! I can't feel my legs'."



The Border Patrol has said in the past that Terry's unit had the "freedom" to put down their bean bags and use other weapons, but chose not to. However, other Border Patrol agents say policy guidelines and the rules of engagement for BORTAC that night encouraged the agents to use non-lethal force first.


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Re: Defending our borders with bean bags....
It's a flipping tragedy is what it is. This whole case stinks to high heavens.
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Re: Defending our borders with bean bags....
Roll the clock back to 2010...


[link to abcnews.go.com]


A member of an elite U.S. Border Patrol tactical team was shot and killed Tuesday night reportedly during a violent gun battle
...with bean bags



"They said he shot one of them,
...with bean bags... and then one came up behind him and shot him in the back with an AK-47," the agent's stepmother Carolyn Terry told ABC News, relating what she was told by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials.
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Re: Defending our borders with bean bags....
There just aren't enough words to express how I feel about this. It makes me so angry!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Defending our borders with bean bags....
I'm trying to dig around and find some reports that came out when it first happened. It was so much b.s.. Having a hard time finding some of it. I'm sure it's been scrubbed by now. Take screen shots of this stuff when you see it happen.
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Re: Defending our borders with bean bags....
Here is another one...


[link to www.abc15.com]

TUCSON, AZ - Border Patrol agent Nicholas Ivie died of a gunshot wound to the head, according to the Pima County autopsy report released Wednesday.

The forensic pathologist who conducted the autopsy recovered a copper jacketed projectile from Ivie’s brainstem.

“The wound course involves the scalp, the frontal bone leaving an approximately 1.5 x 1.0 cm entrance wound, the medial sides of the right and left frontal lobes of the brain, the brainstem and the cerebellum,” according to the report.

A second bullet fragment fractured Ivie’s first cervical vertebra.

Last week, the Cochise County Sheriff’s Office released a section of its investigative report, documenting the events that occurred prior to Ivie’s death.

The report indicated Ivie had been using his radio to communicate with other agents prior to the October shooting that took his life near the US-Mexico border.

According to a supplemental narrative, the uninjured Border Patrol agent at the shooting scene told investigators that she and another agent “were in radio communication with Agent Ivie…(and) at one point she observed (Ivie) signaling them with his flashlight.”

The uninjured agent, whose name was redacted from the report, indicated she had been responding to a sensor hit in the desert at the time of the shooting.

“She responded to the area and met with another agent….Each of them arrived in there(sic) own vehicle,” the report indicated. “They parked at the ‘Dead Trail’ and proceeded on foot.”

The agent reported that she had not worked in the area prior to the evening of the shooting. She said she knew Ivie was also responding to the sensor hit, but he was coming from the north while she was arriving at the scene from the south.

According to the report, the uninjured agent told investigators she noticed muzzle flashes followed by gunfire in front of her as she was walking up a desert trail.

“She drew her weapon and took cover,” the report said. She did not recall whether she fired her own weapon.

“She thought she observed 3 to 4 people moving in the area but she could not describe them. She also mentioned hearing whispering. She could not say if it was in English or Spanish,” the report said.

The agent also told investigators that she never saw Ivie before or after the shooting.




How in the hell do you not recall firing your weapon????





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