The Nature and Positions of Satan and His Demons

I cannot remember it, I'll have to look it up and re read it.

So then the events of Daniel occured 2000 years ago, is that what you are saying ?

see matthew 24

Lol... they weren't human. If they did they would have loved one another & kept natural Law order. Who do you think He is something like you ...

That you can judge from the heartbeat of your existence & little understanding compared to infinity?

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

The events in Matthew 24 occured in 70 AD didn't they ?

what's your point? He gave us those events in written form for the end of days... not for back then...

See that is the problem with you atheists and Satan worshipers you think Jesus is dead...

As he has said he has risen..

Lol uh no...
If satan hadn't suceeded in making man fall from grace no one would die at all.So by extension you can thank him for every death.

And tell again me how many saviors satan has sent you to die for your sins again.Zip...nada...he doesn't care.In fact he WANTS you in hell with him

You do know that matthew was written long after his death, yet his words were still written

Really?
When did the abomination of desolation happen?
When was there a time of trouble such has never been,nor ever will be again in 70 AD?

I don't understand why god kills billions or why he's not powerful enough or loving enough to just fix everything or "infinity" but you do somehow. Got it.

Sure

But didn't the events of Matthew 24 take place in 70 AD ?

So the events of Daniel have not taken place, therefore the messiah has not came yet.

so satan succeeded where god failed. so satan is more powerful than god. Got it.

Daniel 9

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.



If the events in Daniel 9:27 are yet to occur, then one can assume the events in Daniel 9:25 are also yet to occur or the Messiah the Prince has yet to come.

Thing is He is & does Love, not a tyrant. Therefore allows His creation to sort out whom they are. But He is faithful to His Laws ...
Otherwise He would be different. Every spirit is accountable to truth before Him, as they are to themselves & worlds around them. Magically fixing things is not true, as existence is a collaboration. You are, He Is.
And Loves you as others ... the world around you.

Considering that God never tried to succeed in making mankind fall,I guess we can list your statement firmly in the big fat fail category.

You want your father the devil to be stronger then God don't you?

Wishful thinking :P

You've got to understand that just because it's a short few verses doesn't mean it's not taking place over a large period of time.

Verse 25 was describing the 400 plus years in between Daniels time and messiah.

This...

'And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary'

Was talking about the death of Jesus in 30 ad,and then the temples destruction in 70ad.

The 'prince to come' is in reference to the antichrist.And this verse says that his people will destroy the city and sanctuary.This happened in 70 ad by the romans hands.

So in other words we are being told the prince to come (aka antichrist) will have roman lineage,or come from the area of the old roman empire

Verse 27 is futuristic and described a time when this 'prince to come' will solidify a covenant with man for one week(7 yrs?) and then break it and defy the temple halfway through this time.

But seeing as the temple was already destroyed last verse,it makes sense that a new one would have been built by verse 27.Which is exactly what the jews plan to do when they are finally able.

so you are saying verse 25 has taken place and verse 27 has not taken place ?

Yep that was what I was saying

so the Old Testament hs yet to be fufilled....interesting

Ephesians 6:12

King James Version (KJV)

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Evil exists so you know to appreciate the good.
Why do you have to know evil at all? Ask Eve.

Acutallly this prince of Persia was NOT a demon but one of the fallen angels who is a principality in the Air..this one being the Prince of Persia.. These fallen angels have been positioned by satan in the air in different cities .. countries... all over the world. Satan's control and authority is in the air... the demons are different from angels .. these are disembodied spirits that seek to possess people who open themselves to them knowingly or unknowingly.. they either dwell in people or in the " deep" the sea.. Demons on the earth along with the Fallen angels in the air work to enslave man .. keep men bounded.. in darkness and corrupted...

The Thing regarding the Lord Jesus was that in His ascension He transcended all these realms and He Himself is Head of Principalities and powers and rulers... they CANNOT touch Him and He has given all that He has attained and obtained TO the Church to exercise His authority over the demons on the earth and the Principalities in the Air.

spiritual wickedness in high places.

the biggest coup the Devil ever pulled off was convinced people he does not exist.


who said that quote? some wise person for sure.

why would the devil want to convince people he doesn't exist ?