Sandy Hook: Why did police delay death notifications until 12:45 a.m. Dec. 15? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7659535 United States 02/20/2014 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't care what that article says, I'm pretty positive it was that evening that he made the infamous interview, is there another way to verify? Also I believe Gene gave an interview later that same day, making some reference to knowing who that child was on that "list" when the lady came asking him about her child. Does anyone else remember this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2822082 United States 02/20/2014 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What were those parents doing who weren't notified by 6 pm? Were they all together somewhere? You know they wouldn't have gone home without hearing something from police. Well, a NORMAL parent wouldn't. What were they doing? How come there is no media coverage of that evening? I know it would be crude and heartless, but our fake media doesn't give a darn. I think they were told to go to a motel or get away that night. There should be tons of articles regarding that evening, yet there are very few. Sorry to ramble OP, just following a train of thought. Sometimes a gem will come out that way, ya know? Or spark someone else's thoughts or memory of another piece of the puzzle! |
KPM
User ID: 34763230 United States 02/20/2014 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's surprising there was so much of a delay, one of the cops said he basically lined the kids up. Parents gave pics and descriptions. How hard was it to match up? Or was the delay for other reasons? ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54499838 United States 02/20/2014 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And what about parents who don't believe in autopsies for religious or other reasons? I don't know if there's a law stating that victims of mass crimes must be autopsied regardless of the parents' wishes. Or are we to assume parents gave permission, and if so, how could they do this before being officially notified? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1712129 United States 02/20/2014 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do any legal types here know why it might be important/advantageous to delay notification? Something about the family being allowed access to the body, possibly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54499838 i don't think they had access to the body. They were shown photos by the coroner and the coroner has excellent photagraphers. They can control the situation better that way. |
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Stickywicket
User ID: 18768705 Canada 02/20/2014 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In many cases, the families of deceased were notified at 12:45 a.m. This cannot be random. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54629843 Some families stated in their interviews that they felt police purposely delayed notification. Is there a reason notification was made late at night? Is there a legal reason, perhaps, to delay notification until what was technically the next day? How is it that not one family out of 26 (28?) was officially notified of their loved one's death on the day that death occurred? Didn't Heslin say that he stayed at the firehouse until the middle of the night to get confirmation? Another thing I don't understand is that the families were notified that their kids were still in the school during the day as there was footage on "drama corner". So, if these familes already knew that their kids were killed, why did LE have to come to all of their houses at night? Is this for confirmation? Or just standard operation procedure? Also, from reading some of the reports, I got the impression that some of these family members didn't know about their deceased children until the cops showed up at their door. How is this even possible? |
#forgiven.
User ID: 2222972 United States 02/20/2014 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit! I found names and pictures of every single person that "died" at 5:30 p.m. the EXACT same day! And sat there at the fucking computer and cried! I remember this VIVIDLY because I was getting off of work at 6:00, my sister texted and said how sad about the kids.. i didn't even know about it until 5:00, so i got on the computer and searched and there were pictures of all of them with names, ages and EVERYTHING! #forgiven. |
Stickywicket
User ID: 18768705 Canada 02/20/2014 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a source handy, but I remember some parents saying in their interviews that most of them were together in a group in the firehouse, and I think they were all notified at the same time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36903391 Yes, this. Though, judging from the footage at "drama corner" it seems some, such as Pozner, were informed right outside in front of cameras. Why would LE do such a thing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7659535 United States 02/20/2014 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's right. We've got Pozner, the Mcdonnels and Robbie Parker running like a mad man down the street, and then he and his wife - all caught on camera for WeThePeople to see......looks to me they must have been informed. |
whatever User ID: 26028349 United States 02/20/2014 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've asked and haven't seen anyone respond...the woman in blue who looks like she's gonna vomit and I guess it's her husband holding her up...the buy in blue jacket is in the shot looking oblivious. Who are those the parents of? It's in the video near drama corner. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 54629843 United States 02/20/2014 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's a primary notification vs. official confirmation thing. But given that by the time those parents went home there was no question their child was dead/gone, it seems odd to bust in their door at 12:45 a.m. I just wonder how long, in fact, officers were desperately looking for kids who had called in sick, etc. To make the wrong notification would be ghastly; maybe officers were already smarting over the Cox/Halstead closet thing. That must have been embarrassing. What about kids who literally were no longer identifiable--how would you sort them out from the kids you hadn't checked off your enrollment list yet because they were home sick? 458 kids--you have to confirm the location/status of each one, I think, under the circumstances, before you can make official notification. I think the 1245 thing is suspicious in its own right; but I also think officers were frantically searching for unaccounted for students. Remember--Hochsprung said 700 kids, the email to cops said 500 (or something); enrollment report said 458. Extremely disconcerting. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 54629843 United States 02/20/2014 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's say--incredibly sad--A child's facial features are not identifiable. Are you sure it's Child A? What if Child A ran into the woods, or is still at a neighbor's house? There is so much confusion--everyone calling everyone--how do you know? Even more likely, Child B is at school visiting, or called in sick but then got dropped off after all; you could have a deceased child who is not yet on any list. I think the pressure to be sure is just incredibly high in such a case. But what it really highlights is the lack of accountability for the students as a whole--and we know this was a big problem, because it's in the police reports and police audio that officers are searching through town for the kids, because it was quietly mentioned at another town's emergency preparedness meeting (family reunification at Sandy Hook was a problem). So maybe it's a missing-child law as much as anything--maybe after midnight in CT some missing child thing kicks in and different rules then apply? |
whatever User ID: 26028349 United States 02/20/2014 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All the more reason you can bet my butt would have seen my child IN ANY CONDITION, even if they covered gruesome injuries, I could look at shoes/clothing before I went anywhere. No way I would have gone home to bed and let my baby lay there for hours! Oh and then pull myself together to go on TV the next day or get a tattoo...give me a break! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36903391 United States 02/20/2014 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They didn't even take attendance that day, according to one report. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54629843 Let's say--incredibly sad--A child's facial features are not identifiable. Are you sure it's Child A? What if Child A ran into the woods, or is still at a neighbor's house? There is so much confusion--everyone calling everyone--how do you know? Even more likely, Child B is at school visiting, or called in sick but then got dropped off after all; you could have a deceased child who is not yet on any list. I think the pressure to be sure is just incredibly high in such a case. But what it really highlights is the lack of accountability for the students as a whole--and we know this was a big problem, because it's in the police reports and police audio that officers are searching through town for the kids, because it was quietly mentioned at another town's emergency preparedness meeting (family reunification at Sandy Hook was a problem). So maybe it's a missing-child law as much as anything--maybe after midnight in CT some missing child thing kicks in and different rules then apply? This makes a lot of sense. I think for Soto's kids, especially, they probably needed to track down every child who was in her class in order to make sure that they were certain about who was alive and who was dead. |