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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45420821 United States 02/22/2014 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The situation in Oklahoma is not good. Check out this thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! Thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! |
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User ID: 72261 New Zealand 02/22/2014 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really don't trust the geo people to know whether fault lines are active and I know for a fact that they haven't a clue where all the fault lines are. Look at Christchurch - the first quake was on a inactive fault, the second most destructive one - they took ages working out what fault it was. The latest surveys have discovered faults they didn't know about off our coast. They mean well but they are learning all the time as well. I've come to the conclusion an earthquake can happen anywhere and afterwards they might find the fault. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50727568 Canada 02/22/2014 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I check the earthquake map daily to see what's happening. I keep seeing Oklahoma having these small EQ's all the freaking time. I did see that there is the Meers fault line there, but is not active. Quoting: Indiana Jones I used to think it was because of fracking. I am getting the feeling that it is not. Can someone who might know tell me what the devil is going on here? Lots of people will tell you its fracking, but they really have no clue. There are quite a few hydraulic fracking rigs around where I live and we never have earthquakes. Its the New Madrid fault getting ready to fuck you over. |
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(OP) User ID: 37475791 United States 02/22/2014 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The situation in Oklahoma is not good. Quoting: CuriousSeeker Check out this thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! Thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! Was out of the net for a while with my daughter. I did not see this thread. I don't live in Ok, but I just see these small EQ's all the time. I wonder if New Madrid is somehow tied in to the Meers fault. I was hoping someone here might know. I do feel that fracking can cause small EQ's, but there are just way to many to be just that IMO Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak |
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User ID: 43874916 United States 02/22/2014 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting info regarding Oklahoma earthquake history, EARTHQUAKES Oklahoma is within the stable interior of the United States. Except for the Meers Fault, the state has had almost no significant tectonic activity since the Pennsylvanian and Permian periods of geologic time (325 to 245 million years ago). About 1,200 to 1,300 years ago a very large earthquake produced a sixteen-mile-long and fifteen-foot-high fault scarp north of the present town of Meers in Comanche County. . . The largest known Oklahoma earthquake (with the possible exception of the Fort Gibson 1882 event) occurred near El Reno, Canadian County, on April 9, 1952. This magnitude 5.5 earthquake, as measured on the Richter Scale, caused a fifty-foot-long crack in the State Capitol Office Building in Oklahoma City. It was felt throughout Oklahoma and in parts of seven other states. The total felt area was approximately 140,000 square miles.. Prior to 1962 all fifty-nine earthquakes in Oklahoma were known either from historical accounts or from seismograph stations outside the state. Oklahoma's first seismographs were installed in late 1961. . [link to digital.library.okstate.edu] I think fracking/injecting might be partial causes, however I think Oklahoma has a history of eq's but the records do not got back that far and as stated about the sesmographs were only installed in late 1961, so there isn't alot of info. The earth is going through a unique cycle, a possible more volatile one, in which areas that have been asleep may be waking up, Here is a link to some interesting info regarding the correlation between solar hibernations and the world's largest earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. [link to spaceandscience.net] |
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User ID: 43874916 United States 02/22/2014 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting info regarding Oklahoma earthquake history, Quoting: quirk EARTHQUAKES Oklahoma is within the stable interior of the United States. Except for the Meers Fault, the state has had almost no significant tectonic activity since the Pennsylvanian and Permian periods of geologic time (325 to 245 million years ago). About 1,200 to 1,300 years ago a very large earthquake produced a sixteen-mile-long and fifteen-foot-high fault scarp north of the present town of Meers in Comanche County. . . The largest known Oklahoma earthquake (with the possible exception of the Fort Gibson 1882 event) occurred near El Reno, Canadian County, on April 9, 1952. This magnitude 5.5 earthquake, as measured on the Richter Scale, caused a fifty-foot-long crack in the State Capitol Office Building in Oklahoma City. It was felt throughout Oklahoma and in parts of seven other states. The total felt area was approximately 140,000 square miles.. Prior to 1962 all fifty-nine earthquakes in Oklahoma were known either from historical accounts or from seismograph stations outside the state. Oklahoma's first seismographs were installed in late 1961. . [link to digital.library.okstate.edu] I think fracking/injecting might be partial causes, however I think Oklahoma has a history of eq's but the records do not go back that far and as stated about the sesmographs were only installed in late 1961, so there isn't alot of info. The earth is going through a unique cycle, a possible more volatile one, in which areas that have been asleep may be waking up, Here is a link to some interesting info regarding the correlation between solar hibernations and the world's largest earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. [link to spaceandscience.net] More interesting info Earthquakes? In Oklahoma? It's more likely than you think. Oct 14, 2010 [link to boingboing.net] Last Edited by FireFleye on 02/22/2014 11:46 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54402047 United States 02/22/2014 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I check the earthquake map daily to see what's happening. I keep seeing Oklahoma having these small EQ's all the freaking time. I did see that there is the Meers fault line there, but is not active. Quoting: Indiana Jones I used to think it was because of fracking. I am getting the feeling that it is not. Can someone who might know tell me what the devil is going on here? Oklahoma, there are problems over there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54628596 United States 02/22/2014 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | South of Stillwater near 44th street. I'm telling you it felt like over 5.0. It was loud too, sounded and felt like we had a plane crash into our back yard. This one was scary folks. It's not fracking this one. The don't do the deep oil in this part of the state. The fracking is all west of here about 90 miles. |
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User ID: 43874916 United States 02/22/2014 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seismologist: Fracking doesn't cause earthquakes [link to newsok.com] Looks like it started around the 1940's [link to www.nytimes.com] It seems if fracking was the major cause then why have the eq upticks in Ok started in the last couple of years and wouldn't other states be experiencing the same amount of upticks? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49388975 United States 02/22/2014 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oklahoma has a very unique type of ground/soil. It is hard and brittle. It fractures when hit really hard. Like a dirt clod. If you have never been there ir worked in it you will just have to believe me. It isnt like soil at all. I wonder if this doesn't mean it would be more susceptible to the kind of quakes something like fracking would cause. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54057997 United States 02/23/2014 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The situation in Oklahoma is not good. Quoting: CuriousSeeker Check out this thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! Thread: Oklahoma on pace for 700+ 2.5+ earthquakes in 2014, which is 11x more than in 2012. Plus Mysterious Booms ongoing! Was out of the net for a while with my daughter. I did not see this thread. I don't live in Ok, but I just see these small EQ's all the time. I wonder if New Madrid is somehow tied in to the Meers fault. I was hoping someone here might know. I do feel that fracking can cause small EQ's, but there are just way to many to be just that IMO I agree. It looks like they are getting consistently bigger and there are way too many 3.0+ quakes to be due to fracking. Then again, of course, I do only study earthquakes as a hobby and my understanding is limited compared to a full time professional. |
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User ID: 53315914 Malaysia 02/23/2014 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I check the earthquake map daily to see what's happening. I keep seeing Oklahoma having these small EQ's all the freaking time. I did see that there is the Meers fault line there, but is not active. Quoting: Indiana Jones I used to think it was because of fracking. I am getting the feeling that it is not. Can someone who might know tell me what the devil is going on here? Lots of people will tell you its fracking, but they really have no clue. There are quite a few hydraulic fracking rigs around where I live and we never have earthquakes. Its the New Madrid fault getting ready to fuck you over. People who insist that it's fracking are in denial. Why would they deny that it's natural? Because, if they don't deny it, then they would feel insecure, afraid and panic, because if it's natural, then that means the fault line has gone bonkers and will generate a big earthquake soon. In other words, they're denying it due to the fear of being unable to accept that things are looking bad for that area. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33917235 United States 02/23/2014 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I check the earthquake map daily to see what's happening. I keep seeing Oklahoma having these small EQ's all the freaking time. I did see that there is the Meers fault line there, but is not active. Quoting: Indiana Jones I used to think it was because of fracking. I am getting the feeling that it is not. Can someone who might know tell me what the devil is going on here? Lots of people will tell you its fracking, but they really have no clue. There are quite a few hydraulic fracking rigs around where I live and we never have earthquakes. Its the New Madrid fault getting ready to fuck you over. People who insist that it's fracking are in denial. Why would they deny that it's natural? Because, if they don't deny it, then they would feel insecure, afraid and panic, because if it's natural, then that means the fault line has gone bonkers and will generate a big earthquake soon. In other words, they're denying it due to the fear of being unable to accept that things are looking bad for that area. SG is here, game over, good night everyone doom off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54250222 United States 02/23/2014 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add fracking in the last 4 or 5 years, when these quakes really began to happen frequently. Most of these quakes' epicenters are near a drilling/well site, if one uses google earth and locates the epicenter on that, you'll see some type of oil/gas operation within a mile or less of the epicenter. My guess is that the entire substrata of some areas is being fractured, areas that had high pressure gas/oil have been left empty and are collapsing, and natural faults are being activated as well. Just a hunch. |
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User ID: 54628596 United States 02/23/2014 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the early 2000's, they began drilling very deep wells for gas. 25-30,000 ft deep. Any gas/oil that deep is under very high pressure. Remove it and it leaves a vacuum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54250222 Add fracking in the last 4 or 5 years, when these quakes really began to happen frequently. Most of these quakes' epicenters are near a drilling/well site, if one uses google earth and locates the epicenter on that, you'll see some type of oil/gas operation within a mile or less of the epicenter. My guess is that the entire substrata of some areas is being fractured, areas that had high pressure gas/oil have been left empty and are collapsing, and natural faults are being activated as well. Just a hunch. I'm the one that said fracking had come to a standstill because of freezing temperatures over the past month. They have started up again, but here is your lesson on fracking. They frac in the western part of the state, Canadian county and west. Those wells are horizontal wells that go from 10000-14500 feet deep and then turn horizontal and go up to 2 miles horizontally. When they frac them, they need several million gallons of water that's injected at high pressure to fracture the rock and displace the natural gas and oil that is there. Displaces. So the shock of the fracture might cause a little something, but there isn't a void left that will collapse because its filled with water, fresh drinking water. Hmmm, what's more important, oil or water? Well that's another thread. Yes fracking can cause earthquakes, that's small earthquakes up to 2.0 on the richter scale. Also, salt water disposal wells can cause small earthquakes in the 1.5 range. These quakes that are happening in Guthrie, Langston, Stillwater are not fracking related. If fracking caused larger earthquakes you'd see 3.0+ out by Watonga, Weatherford, and Woodward all the time. Nope, they aren't showing up out where the real fracking is taking place. No, these 3+ quakes are being caused by something else. Maybe drought, maybe New Madrid. Purity of Essence |
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