I've got a serious question about Heaven

Gates are symbolic. The "gate" is the crown chakra, where once you open it, you have access to heaven.

Also, the atom is the gate, one side of the atom is physical reality and the other, well, spiritual reality.

This is called the Door to Brahmin in hindu.

In case the ones in hell manage to dig their way out.

Figurative.

25 + years of bible study and you havent figured out that heaven is made up? What a waisted life.

Heaven is defined in the old testament as Space.
Before Christianity, the Greek/Roman gods were planets.
Guess where they lived...thats right space.
So when the Romans infiltrated and redefined the christian religion, they left the name of Gods abode as heaven. Since the new god isnt a planet that can be seen in the sky then they made up this new fairtail place that god lives.

Kingdom of Heaven goes back to the oldest book...

Enoch!

Enoch gets taken on a tour of Heaven and Hell.

He is shown the realm of the dead, and how the souls cry out to God for justice!

Enoch was a devil's advocate or a mediator between the Fallen Squad or platoon and God.

Its pretty interesting.

2 ancient copies of the book have been found. One in the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls and the other in Ethiopia.

Both written in different languages.

The Scrolls were so important, they were found with the Treasure Map, Copper scrolls.

There are descriptions in the old testament about the "Throne of God".

In Revelations, it becomes very descriptive and describes The New Heaven as a Giant Golden Cube Borg Ship!

Even describes the New Heaven as on its maiden voyage. Like Earth and New Earth are its first stops!

The old heaven was destroyed in a great war, like I quoted in an older reply.

Maybe the Bible has gone full circle...

Heaven was destroyed.... God told Adam where to find the good gold... Heaven is rebuilt!!

Man was needed, and a valued ally in this war, for a time...

IT has gates so the people who were damned to hell, they are always trying to sneak in

The religions of this planet get turned into control mechanisms for the population of spiritual prisoners here. The "Lord" is a control mechanism very similar to Santa Claus. Always watching you, knows what every sparrow is doing, knows your every thought and at the end he decides if you get rewarded or burned for all eternity. Meanwhile in other areas of the bible it repeatedly mentions how this "lord" must come down to Earth sometimes with others in order to see what humans are up to. Clearly not aware of every sparrow fart and every mans thought if he must fly from point a to point b for reconnaissance.

Whens human die they have a hypnotic impulse and command to return "home" to the light. They do this but it is actually a prison management memory wipe station. There is an actual device they use that transmits a wavelength designed to take a spirit who is merely confused and feeling happy because they are suddenly unburdened from hauling a body perhaps in pain around and this wavelength directs intense happy energy wavelengths at the spirit. Suddenly they go from merely happy to incapacitated by this overwhelming feeling. Confused what is going on but feeling very good they are very compliant and non questioning. They are met with whatever images they expected to see as part of the hypnotic suggestion. Then they are led further into the light which is where their memory is once again scrambled. They are given a reassuring suggestion that they are special and have a special destiny then they are told to find a new body on Earth which is actually just going to be another anchor for several decades. Then they leave and "heaven" doesn't think about them again until they return after they die again.

Get past this spirit prison situation on Earth and there is an area that could be considered "heaven". It is merely the offplanet civilization which is very controlling and requires compliance and sheep behavior. There is no death there however. Because human death on Earth is a fabricated situation designed to control the prisoners here. Bodies can die of old age or be hit by a train but the spirit is still standing right there same as before. In the off planet civilizations these things are very controlled. If you kill off whatever body you were permitted to have if you are permitted they assign you a new one and then you report back to work just as if nothing happened. No big loss that Aunt Bertha had a heart attack and now we'll never see her again! No she still has to report to work she might just look a lot different. If she starts rabble rousing, pointing out injustices, getting peoples imaginations inflamed with possibilities or anything else likely to disturb the status quo she will find herself memory wiped and tossed on some distant prison like Earth.

God is busy, he doesn't have time to spy on all of us.

At a certain point in time, yes.

Here's an excerpt from a thread I posted a couple years ago concerning end time events spoken of in the Bible.


Original thread: Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

Part 6. The End of Sin.

As the 1,000 years come to a close, the Father, Jesus, and the redeemed prepare to return back to the earth for the final phase of the judgement. They 'travel' to the earth with the holy city, the New Jerusalem. As they draw near, Jesus descends ahead of the city and in a loud voice commands all the unsaved to resurrect; all the lost from Adam's time to the time of Christ's Second Coming. As the hosts of the wicked look on, Jesus descends and His feet touch the Mount of Olives, causing it to cleave and transform into a massive plain on which the New Jerusalem now comes down to rest upon.

According to Revelation 20:7, Satan now again has a people who are outside the walls of the Holy City whom he can deceive and incite to rebellion. Being separated from the love of God, the mass of the unsaved are easily deceived, coerced, and rallied by Lucifer and his angels for a final attempt to seize the City by force. They begin to encircle the city in preparation for an assault. This very act shows that, though now in the presence of a Holy and Loving God, their hearts remain unchanged. If possible, they would tear God from His throne and crucify Him all over again.

Yet, this is another battle which never sees fruition. As they encircle the city, Jesus reveals Himself in His splendor high above the city and looks down upon those ready to once again wage rebellion against Him. As He looks down, His gaze pierces each soul, and in a panoramic view each human being outside of the city is shown all his sins, secret and public, and their refusals to answer the pleadings of the Holy Spirit. They are reminded of every wrong act, thought, and word they committed and refused to repent of. With wailing they realize fully the result of their actions and how, through their own choices, had refused salvation from God. The turmoil of their souls is beyond words.

The rebellious cannot deny the justice and mercy of God which they rejected. They acknowledge God's justice and in unison, all fall prostrate before Jesus and proclaim "Just and True are Thy ways, O King of Saints!" Together they will acknowledge before God that He is righteous and that they deserve to pay the penalty for their sins. The time has come for the final punishment and the destruction of sin. Sin cannot exist in the fullness of the glory of God. As Jesus now unveils His indescribably glory and brightness, infinitely brighter than the sun at noon, fire begins to rain down from heaven upon those outside the city walls. The earth begins to break up and molten lava pours out from beneath the earth.

Each lost soul now faces the result of their sins which is eternal death. Each one is punished and burns according to the amount of sin that is upon him. Those with fewer sins burn up fast, while those guilty of horrific crimes against humanity suffer longer. The length and intensity of their punishment is proportionate to their sins, while Satan, who is the father of all sin, with his angels, burn the longest. This however, is not an eternally lasting fire. Each one burns until his sins are burnt up, and death and sin itself, ceases to exist.

This final act of judgement will not be pleasing to the righteous inside the city who are looking on from the safety of the walls, nor will it be to a loving God who hates to see death and suffering. This will be a painful act to witness for God and the righteous. But this event is necessary on account of God's justice, in order to establish a universe free of death, pain, sorrow, and tears. Sin must meet its result and end.

As the last embers of the lake of fire cease to burn, all the universe begin praising and glorifying JEHOVAH, the Father and Son, that the reign of terror of Lucifer and sin has come to a close. Sin and death are no more. It is now time for God to create a new heaven and a new earth...

Kingdom of Heaven goes back to the oldest book...

Thats right, but it always meant space not some extradimensional fairland.

I think The Lord does protect and choose who comes into His Presence. Why shouldn't He. I got thrown out of a meeting once in Heaven. I must have said something. I don't remember saying anything, but I must have and I got thrown out of the meeting. I wasn't thrown out of heaven, but out of the meeting. I felt really bad. They said it was like getting banned from glp.

enoch chapter 2

Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, and 2 transgress not against their appointed order. Behold ye the earth, and give heed to the things which take place upon it from first to last, how steadfast they are, how none of the things upon earth 3 change, but all the works of God appear to you. Behold the summer and the winter, how the whole earth is filled with water, and clouds and dew and rain lie upon it.

Heaven, Heavens, Kingdom of Heaven.

I was looking all night for the verse about the crystal floors and the stars seen through the floor of Heaven.

I came across a lot of cool stuff.

Like Astral just brought up God doesn't have the time to spy on everyone.

But, check this out.

He has 7 eyes that go throughout the Earth...

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Zechariah 4 KJV
8 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto you.

10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the Lord, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
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Revelation 4 KJV
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
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Found some other interesting terms.

"Lord of Hosts"

and

"Hosts of Heaven"

Enoch, Torah, Ezekiel, Zechariah and Revelations have a lot of aliens in the them!

More specifically on the gates of the Golden Cube "Fathership"

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Revelations 21
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

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In the next verses it refers to the source of power of the Kingdom.

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Revelations 21 KJV

23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Its the other way round..

Its to keep people IN..

CAN you imagine what it would be like to have to spend eternity with a bunch of self rightous arrogant bible fighting arrogant argumentative holier than thou DIPSHITS?

I would be clawing the WALLS to GTF outta there..

But God does not want anyone leaving..THUS..the WALLS!!!

The Pearly Gates themselves.

Sound like Sphere shaped airlocks that appear as Giant pearls.

Maybe this is where we get the ideas of Women emerging from Clam shells.

The Woman is inside the flying clam shell. That can enter the pearly gate airlocks....????

On one of the french UFO coin versions of the 1500's and/or the 1600's. Instead of the flying shield or wheel, it is depicted as a flying shell.

I really see these guys struggling to describe what they seen.

Like I am using the term airlock for the pearly gate. But, it could be a force field.

The force fields depicted in star wars phantom menace in the droids and Gungan battle were depicted as Spherical and pearly like.

Resistance is futile!

You will be assimilated...



Jokes aside. There are times the gods come and go, to and fro...

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Borg used Nano....