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I shall possess within this veil, a true life of joy and peace- amazing grace

 
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I shall possess within this veil, a true life of joy and peace- amazing grace


I'm 1/4 cherokee so this version was a stapple of mine growing up.

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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I'm 1/4 cherokee so this version was a stapple of mine growing up.

Heres others




 Quoting: sonic tonic


We need grace my friends, foregiveness and peace, pray, meditate. Our children need guidance and grace for integrity to regain a foothold .
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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People of religion are the biggest conspiracy theorists. Why do people of religion flock to the unknown? Hmmmm??
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People of religion are the biggest conspiracy theorists. Why do people of religion flock to the unknown? Hmmmm??
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This has nothing to do with religion my friend. This is grace from your soul, hopefully you have one. I believe in no religion, I believe in the truth, however its found! These words move me from within, honestly make me dream of joy and eternal peace.

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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People of religion are the biggest conspiracy theorists. Why do people of religion flock to the unknown? Hmmmm??
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What do you teach your young ones? Getting one over on your fellow man gets you nowhere. I hope even though you reject integrity somehow you convey it!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Lol. I was not trying to say conspiracy theories relate to religion. I was just saying most people of religion enjoy the unknown.

The song Amazing grace makes me think of the unknown. I am not religious either.

God to me = a unknown invisible made-up entity that people praise.
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But then again how can OP say he is not religious but posted three videos of Amazing grace.

"Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

When we've been there
Ten thousand years,
Bright shinning as the sun
We've no less days
To sing God's praise
Then when, when we first begun

Through many dangers
Toils and snares
I have already come
T'was grace that brought me
Safe thus far
And grace will lead me home

Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

Was blind,
But now I see "


Did you just find religion?

And OP. I don't teach my young ones about cults. Religion is just like the KKK in terms of groups and beliefs. Not to mention there are more "gods" then there are letters in the alphabet.
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"“Grace” is the most important concept in the Bible, Christianity, and the world."

OP is crazy..
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Lol. I was not trying to say conspiracy theories relate to religion. I was just saying most people of religion enjoy the unknown.

The song Amazing grace makes me think of the unknown. I am not religious either.

God to me = a unknown invisible made-up entity that people praise.
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God is a twisty windy road that takes everything you have to stay on, its yourself , you and everything that has taken a million years to make you. God is within, untether yourself from that voice in your head that talks nonstop and realize you are not it, you are grace that sweet sound. This is a test, an adventure , enjoy it and perfect your deoxyribonucleic state. One epiphany can reclaim it all.rockon
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Now your talking about DNA??
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But then again how can OP say he is not religious but posted three videos of Amazing grace.

"Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

When we've been there
Ten thousand years,
Bright shinning as the sun
We've no less days
To sing God's praise
Then when, when we first begun

Through many dangers
Toils and snares
I have already come
T'was grace that brought me
Safe thus far
And grace will lead me home

Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

Was blind,
But now I see "


Did you just find religion?

And OP. I don't teach my young ones about cults. Religion is just like the KKK in terms of groups and beliefs. Not to mention there are more "gods" then there are letters in the alphabet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37735875


Why are you so mad. Grace is a way of life not a religion. A religion collects money, integrity drives your soul.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Now your talking about DNA??
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Yes, its part of the journey, an integral part.
There will come a day when science and the spirit meet, they are the same, they just contain different wordings.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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amazing grace

two words
capturing
an expression of
a deeply felt experience
of the divinity
of all creation

it doesn't matter how many times
i have heard any number of renditions

i surrender to the power
of the words and the music
and allow my self
to be moved

with gratitude for sharing op
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"“Grace” is the most important concept in the Bible, Christianity, and the world."

OP is crazy..
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To belittle another stems from an inferiority, fear usually, not having answers and mad at those who attempt to amswer. I have no real answers just what I believe , but I was once lost and now very content, so I attempt to help others that may find peace along the road I found.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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amazing grace

two words
capturing
an expression of
a deeply felt experience
of the divinity
of all creation

it doesn't matter how many times
i have heard any number of renditions

i surrender to the power
of the words and the music
and allow my self
to be moved

with gratitude for sharing op
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577017


Wow..nice, very nice.
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beautiful OP.

this is the heart of truth.

red_heart
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beautiful OP.

this is the heart of truth.

red_heart
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hf
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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So what your saying OP is you are a religousless spiritual hippie whose last drug encounter opened up your mind and soul?
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Nice thread/sentiments OP,
hf
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So what your saying OP is you are a religousless spiritual hippie whose last drug encounter opened up your mind and soul?
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No I'm saying goodbye and good luck. I have hope for you mr. antagonist, I really do.Peace
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Can these twain

[link to www.fastmail.fm (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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But then again how can OP say he is not religious but posted three videos of Amazing grace.

"Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

When we've been there
Ten thousand years,
Bright shinning as the sun
We've no less days
To sing God's praise
Then when, when we first begun

Through many dangers
Toils and snares
I have already come
T'was grace that brought me
Safe thus far
And grace will lead me home

Amazing grace,
Oh, how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost,
But now I'm found
Was blind,
But now I see

Was blind,
But now I see "


Did you just find religion?

And OP. I don't teach my young ones about cults. Religion is just like the KKK in terms of groups and beliefs. Not to mention there are more "gods" then there are letters in the alphabet.
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ah ha

a closet Bible reader

I see youhavebeen reading the Bible again . . . what are friends going to say, when they find you outtounge


1.1 Kings 18:25
And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.

2.1 Corinthians 8:5
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

thereis only one God, the King, my Father, the creator of all, and Father of my brother, my saviour, and mediator, sweet Jesus, the Christ.

Take your eyes off the fools, lest you forget the innocent, yearning souls of your helpless children. They have no one but you, the mother, but you arenot forever. To whom will they turn when youare gone?
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People of religion are the biggest conspiracy theorists. Why do people of religion flock to the unknown? Hmmmm??
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This has nothing to do with religion my friend. This is grace from your soul, hopefully you have one. I believe in no religion, I believe in the truth, however its found! These words move me from within, honestly make me dream of joy and eternal peace.
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beautiful response
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hf

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hiya my friend

have you heard this version, by Cecilia?


[link to youtu.be]

The song "Amazing Grace" is from Cecilia's album "Voice of the Feminine Spirit". You can learn more about Cecilia and the album on her website [link to www.ceciliasings.com]
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hiya my friend

have you heard this version, by Cecilia?


[link to youtu.be]

The song "Amazing Grace" is from Cecilia's album "Voice of the Feminine Spirit". You can learn more about Cecilia and the album on her website [link to www.ceciliasings.com]
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Hiya T, very glad to see you. Thanks for the rendition, its awesome.hf
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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So what your saying OP is you are a religousless spiritual hippie whose last drug encounter opened up your mind and soul?
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No I'm saying goodbye and good luck. I have hope for you mr. antagonist, I really do.Peace
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I'm 1/4 cherokee so this version was a stapple of mine growing up.

Heres others




 Quoting: sonic tonic


Amazing Grace - Best Version By Far! - YouTube



Amazing Grace - Best Version By Far! - YouTube



www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdvReNKKuk





GLP