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The Russian/Ukrainian altercation is really about Iran - Israel has stirred the pot! Discuss

 
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This smacks of a left field swipe by Israel. It get's the attention off the Palestinian situation, takes Russia's assisting gaze off Iran and put's China into an interesting position of whether or not to support Russia.

What do you reckon??????????

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THE CRIMERIA IS CONNECTED TO RUSSIA INTERESTS IN SYRIA AND THEREFORE IRAN AS WELL

THE ISRAELI NAT. GAS ANGLE WILL DRAW ON TURKEY


AND THAT IS THE FUCKING WILDCARD


WHAT WILL TURKEY DO


AND WHAT WILL TURKEY DO WHEN ERDOGEN KICKS IT????
HE IS NO SPRING CHICKEN

AND HE WANTS TO GROW/DEVELOPE TURKEY
TRICKY SITUATION B 4 AND AFTER HE KICKS IT....

THE ONLY MUSLIM COUNTRY WITH NUKES IN NATO AND EUROPE UNION
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sounds...silly but hey its GLP

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sounds...silly but hey its GLP

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It's Israel finding Putin's achilles heal - so simple but it has turned the world that was once ganging up on Israel to focus it's attention on RUSSIA
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1dunno1

sounds like a reach.


Still believe it is about the strategic placement of the missile shield in Europe.
but....i dont know shit....
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1dunno1

sounds like a reach.


Still believe it is about the strategic placement of the missile shield in Europe.
but....i dont know shit....
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Which leads back to Israel 5a
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What better way of cutting off Russia's finances than stopping the flow of their gas sales through the Ukraine:

[link to en.ria.ru]

6 key intakes of gas from Russia through Ukraine to supply Europe.


You don't need place sanctions thereby identifying the countries imposing the sanctions - just cause unrest - and the rest will happen.
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Winter is not over yet! So if I were Europe, I would be worried if Russia turned off the tap. Ukraine won't get paid if they are not taking the gas through their country either!
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
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But not everywhere!
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The kingdom of God is within you and all around you. It is not within buildings of wood or stone. Split a piece of wood and you will find me. Look beneath a stone and I am there.
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
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But not everywhere!
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Ok well my head is blonde my ummm isn't all that blonde either.
But anyway, I think you are wrong dear.
This is not about attention diversion, this is about the western elite trying to put more NWO puppets in countries they want to control.
And Russia is ok with them doing this, but not in places where there is mostly Ruzki's, they will not tolerate that shit.
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I agree, they tried to take our eyes off the ball.
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
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But not everywhere!
 Quoting: Possum


Ok well my head is blonde my ummm isn't all that blonde either.
But anyway, I think you are wrong dear.
This is not about attention diversion, this is about the western elite trying to put more NWO puppets in countries they want to control.
And Russia is ok with them doing this, but not in places where there is mostly Ruzki's, they will not tolerate that shit.
 Quoting: DerkJirtleford


It's the timing issue that makes me think that this is a little different - although the fact that the Ukraine is a key thoroughfare for gas as I mentioned above it would be a definite reason for the puppeteers to choose the Ukraine as their next target!hf
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The kingdom of God is within you and all around you. It is not within buildings of wood or stone. Split a piece of wood and you will find me. Look beneath a stone and I am there.
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
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But not everywhere!
 Quoting: Possum


Ok well my head is blonde my ummm isn't all that blonde either.
But anyway, I think you are wrong dear.
This is not about attention diversion, this is about the western elite trying to put more NWO puppets in countries they want to control.
And Russia is ok with them doing this, but not in places where there is mostly Ruzki's, they will not tolerate that shit.
 Quoting: DerkJirtleford


It's the timing issue that makes me think that this is a little different - although the fact that the Ukraine is a key thoroughfare for gas as I mentioned above it would be a definite reason for the puppeteers to choose the Ukraine as their next target!hf
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I first thought diversion, now I realize its not.
Its real mate, trying to take over the world are they.
Marxist NWO they want. yoda
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*points*

hey look over there ... while we do this over here.

classic tactic
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Fascinating!

I find OPs argument highly logical!

-will try the Volcan bump and grind meld.
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It's about threats to Israel.

Always.
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Fascinating!

I find OPs argument highly logical!

-will try the Volcan bump and grind meld.
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5abanana2
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It is true that if things go bad and turns into war the natural gas which Russia rely's on for cash will be cut...

we must also note that the UK just spent 6 billion building pipe lines across Iran...

I think maybe this has been done on purpose to leave Iran Wide open to attack... Putin just moved half his military to Ukraine..

what a perfect time to take Iran...
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this is one giant chess game with many players and the USA is being Used as a Military battering ram against nations by the banker elite of Europe.
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There is a reason you are blonde dear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54987618


But not everywhere!
 Quoting: Possum


Ok well my head is blonde my ummm isn't all that blonde either.
But anyway, I think you are wrong dear.
This is not about attention diversion, this is about the western elite trying to put more NWO puppets in countries they want to control.
And Russia is ok with them doing this, but not in places where there is mostly Ruzki's, they will not tolerate that shit.
 Quoting: DerkJirtleford


It's the timing issue that makes me think that this is a little different - although the fact that the Ukraine is a key thoroughfare for gas as I mentioned above it would be a definite reason for the puppeteers to choose the Ukraine as their next target!hf
 Quoting: Possum


They already have gas thoroughfare.
Just as they had before Georgie and South Ossetia.

Russia's involvement is to prevent its people coming under the rule of western powers.

If you understand anything about the Russian Constitution, it specifically states Russian forces may not invade another country.

Unless that country attacks Russia, or Russian citizens in a large number are threatened in that country.

This goes back to even Afghanistan when Russia was the USSR.

The Afghany mujaheddin were attacking USSR citizens in the ex soviet republics surrounding it like Kazakhstan.

Of course now we know these mujaheddin, who were attacking the USSR then, became the Taliban, which the US used to invade the middle east.
And were funded by the US back in those cold war days.

I am a US allied person myself, I will fight alongside the USA anytime.
But I also like the truth.
And that is what I just told.
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Henry Kissinger said last night that Russia's actions in Crimea is not compatible with the world order of present. It clearly means that russia is not playing ball and they have been taken back by surprise.
Tptb don't seem to realise their power is coming to an end. Up to now they have had free passage to everything but now they are coming unstuck.
There are three nations that stand in way of tptb. China, russia and Iran.
Iran resisted all aggression and has won the plot. Israel lost the opportunity of overcoming iran years ago. Ahmadinejad was indeed the sign to the world that agaggression towards iran is futile.
Israel has no longer any power to dictate and with its demise come the demise of tptb.
What we are seeing is the last clutching the straws of tptb. Lots of kicking, shouting and throwing stones but still down they go.
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Henry Kissinger said last night that Russia's actions in Crimea is not compatible with the world order of present. It clearly means that russia is not playing ball and they have been taken back by surprise.
Tptb don't seem to realise their power is coming to an end. Up to now they have had free passage to everything but now they are coming unstuck.
There are three nations that stand in way of tptb. China, russia and Iran.
Iran resisted all aggression and has won the plot. Israel lost the opportunity of overcoming iran years ago. Ahmadinejad was indeed the sign to the world that agaggression towards iran is futile.
Israel has no longer any power to dictate and with its demise come the demise of tptb.
What we are seeing is the last clutching the straws of tptb. Lots of kicking, shouting and throwing stones but still down they go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40288035


Love this synopsis!hf
There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies. My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness.
Dalai Lama
Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.
Albert Einstein
The kingdom of God is within you and all around you. It is not within buildings of wood or stone. Split a piece of wood and you will find me. Look beneath a stone and I am there.
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