Gravity. Just saw it. Love it. Wept and cheered. This is an allegory of the salvation story.

Ty gonna watch it later !!!!

Thats what I was afraid of.... pass.

dont let the door hit ya

if you've ever experienced grief and loss, bring some tissues. you'll need em

Thank you, Salt :-)

Understanding Gravity as an Allegory of the Life of Peter

I recently saw the film Gravity, written and directed by Alfonso Cuarón. Several viewers of the film have noted Cuarón's assertion that the film is about "rebirth," focusing on this quote, "That was the point, for us, of the film. Adversities and the possibility of rebirth. And rebirth also metaphorical in the sense of gaining a new knowledge of ourselves. We have a character that is drifting metaphorical and literally, drifting towards the void. A victim of their own inertia. Getting farther and farther away from Earth where life and human connections are. And probably she was like that when she was on planet Earth, before leaving for the mission. It's a character who lives in her own bubble. And she has to shred that skin to start learning at the end. This is a character who we stick in the ground, again, and learns how to walk."

Certainly there's something to that.

But I think there is something much more. I think that Cuarón is not simply talking about some sort of generic "rebirth" but is specifically telling the Christian story through an allegory of the story of the apostle Peter. Yes, it's a bold claim. But I think it is the best way to interpret the film. I think that Cuarón's explanation would work with this allegory, at least if told on his terms, but I'd like to explore the film using the story of the apostle Peter as the interpretive key, seeing if by "rebirth," he meant something closer akin to "salvation."

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Sandra Bullock's character—Ryan Stone—is Peter. Stone has no business being in space. She is outside of her comfort zone. She is a doctor, not an astronaut. The mission is stretching her into a place that she has never been.

George Clooney's character—Matt Kowalski—is Jesus, or at least a Christ-figure. He is exceptionally comfortable. He is in complete control at all times, and he is the one who gives Stone a fighting chance.

The only other character of significance is Mission Control—Houston. Houston is voiced by Ed Harris (a clever nod to the Tom Hanks/Ron Howard Apollo 13) and represents God the Father. He is sometimes exceptionally easy to hear. Other times he is very quiet.


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Way to religitard up this film!

Gravity is a half hearted lame attempt to soft sell an INCONVENIENT TRUTH...Chinese systems and technology will save the world.

Likewise in the " half-hearted disinfo attempt " woth 2012.

They ( TPTB ) HAVE to announce it! But they try to make a parady of it.

When the PRIME CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE comes to audit TPTB's account on how they manage the world, they will swear that they had made all the necessary disclosures! Nice try!

you're a few bricks short of a load, aren't you?

Analysis
This is the turning point in the movie, just as Christ's return will be the climactic turning point in
salvation history. In Christian theology, when everything seems lost, Christ will suddenly appear
to save Man. There will be a real, what the Greeks call
ed, Deus Ex Machina moment-a moment when God abruptly appears to get the characters out of a seemingly unresolvable problem.Cuaron brilliantly uses a Deus Ex Machina here-on the surface level it could become farcical (as many Deus Ex Machina's intentionally or unintentionally do) except for allowing that it is readily believable an oxygen-deprived Ryan hallucinated. And as we know, we sometimes solve problems in our sleep, as Matt solves the fuel problem for Ryan. Cuaron leaves open the
possibility that Matt in spirit somehow came back to save Ryan. Was Matt there? Like Ryan, we don't really know. Cuaron purposefully leaves it unanswered, a mystery to ponder.

On the figurative level it is a master stroke. Allegorically, the film traverses the Christian
salvation arc from Genesis to Revelation, an arc replete with a Deus Ex Machina moment called the Second Coming of Christ. In this scene, the capsule is the world, Ryan is humanity, andMatt's decent into the capsule is Christ's descent into the world, the return of the Christ.
Without his Deus Ex Machina, Cuaron's allegory would not stay true to its chosen path-it is without the Deus Ex Machina moment that his allegory aligned as it is to Christian theology would break down; to stay true to the allegory it is required, and Cuaron executes it perfectly.
Next we witness the climactic conversation between Ryan and Matt. Cuaron purposefully provides an ethereal light for the scene (the instrument panel lights); as for sound, there is none until Matt removes his helmet–the silence
matches ours and Ryan’s shock.

Ryan already knows that Matt died for her, so she knows how dear she is to him, how much he loves her. While the
scene is one of judgment, it is a joyful judgment. We feel relief that he is there with her. She feels relief. First, pleasantries are exchanged, proper manners followed. Cuaron has the camera angled such that Matt appears above Ryan on screen, literally talking 'down' to her, a teacher
instructing a student as he tells Ryan about the landing rockets. Then, the judgment comes.

Cuaron seamlessly moves the camera so that Ryan and Matt
now appear across from one another; Matt is no longer speaking as a master to a novice but on a personal level-
it becomes a scene of a father talking frankly with a distraught daughter who wants to give up on life. Here,
we witness the intimate conversation between God the Father and his daughter Eve, and by extension, all of us. He says to her, "Look, I get it. What's the point of going on? Your kid died. It doesn't get any rougher than that. But what matters is what you do with it." He tells her she can
either give up and die, or push on. Through the allegorical use of characters in the rolls of God and Man, Cuaron directs this conversation at each of us. God is talking to each of us, as a friend, as a father.

We all suffer, but that is not an excuse to give up.

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As much as I want to see Gravity, I can't help thinking this is another distraction to keep the masses waiting for their savior.

Consider instead You as Being who You are waiting for....

Tick Tock.....

its not an obvious theme
you'd have to know what to look for to see it

love your posts, thanks Salt!

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Ain't gonna do it.

Clooney can suck sweaty donkey balls, but he won't get a penny of mine.

Suck-ass fuk-nut leftist loser.

Yeah, I watched this movie two nights in a row, pretty rare of me to do that.

There are a lot of haters of Gravity and it's pretty ridiculous when all they have to back up their criticism is that it wasn't 'scientifically accurate'. It is a fiction, set in the familiar surroundings of the ISS/etc. It's a story about birth/death/rebirth. That's all there is to it. There are no rules when it comes to creative art. It's about telling a story.

I think they did a great job with the film and it's definitely the most intense I have ever seen. Having said that, I think it was almost too intense.

it was an interesting point after she gets back in the pod when she gets rid of her suit and takes a floating position on her back sort of curled up like a fetus, the tube coming up from her solar plexus and the circular shape of the door of the pod behind her. very symbolic. her rebirth was about to take place.

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You won't find any favourable movies about Christianity - outside the stable of Mel Gibson.

Saw it three times now. Loved it.

I didn't see your take on it those times but now that you mention it I see it clearly. I suppose a lot of movies go down this road.

I'll have to give it a watch again. Maybe later tonight.

I had two goddless friends over to watch it and neither of them thought too much of the movie. Odd.

The movie is an allegory of Adam and Eve. Those who fell from grace and were cast out of the garden of eden. They were the first born of God... the first son and daughter of earth.

They are separated from earth. Separated from God, from innocence, from source. That source is LOVE. They are redeemed through their re-connection with self and source, with God. God is LOVE.

They "return" and view the earth through the eyes of a father and mother now. They have grown from their experience. They are ready to return to the garden of eden and teach their children the path they have learned both within and without.

It is the story of the Christ.



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Not Everything that makes you weep tears of joy is about Jebus.

You can shoehorn your mythology into anything you want since it's all parable and allegory to begin with.

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For real, I'm getting super sick of this shit.

Yeah, but it's not about Jebus's peter of whatever tangential garbage the OP is babbling about.

No it fucking isn't. What is wrong with you people?

It's sad when it's being made so clear to all and yet so many are blind to that truth.

Example... NBC's 2 newest shows...called... BELIEVE and Resurrection.

I mean... if I told you to BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION... during EASTER Time/Passover... who the fuck do you think I would be talking about?

Hollywood is literally SPELLING it out to the sheeple and yet they do not acknowledge the Good Shepard.

Explain the biblical story of how God will send billions to hell for not believing in Him as it applies to this film. So much for unconditional love. That is not love. Yes christians will say it is without seeing the obvious contradiction in their belief system.They will defend it to the end so there is no use discussing this for their mind is made up. Explain how there can be good without evil in heaven when good is defined by the existence of evil. Good does not exist independently. It requires evil or bad to exist. So how can there be good without bad or evil ? impossible. Wherever good is evil must be present. Good and evil are two sides of the same coin. God is omnipresent. He is everywhere present. Yet God is in heaven and not here. Lol. Jesus is returning which implies He is coming from there to here. Yet He is omnipresent. Such craziness. Even more crazy is to defend this point of view.

I thought it was one of the most suspenseful movies in a while. Had some real terror cracking.
I loved it, thought Bullock was stunning, as always and Clooney was actually pretty funny.