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Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

 
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great post OP, they know what happened, like you said, they know exactly where a plane is at ALL TIMES.
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This is ridiculous. There was no plane heading for the White House.
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That plane was intended for building 7 but the passangers over powered the "highjackers" and were making cell phone calls....so it was downed...remember the "white
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WAIT! WHAT?!? I didn't say ^^THAT,

THAT's it...I'm leaving this thread
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Idk what's going on with the quoting here but I could've sworn it had my handle next to ^^THAT post...

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Fact number 7. Modern planes have all their systems constantly monitored and the information is continually sent back to the MANUFACTURERS by telemetry to allow the owners / lease holder / maintenance crews to know EXACTLY how the plane is performing giving details of the slightest deviation from optimum.

The huge cost of fuel means that aircraft is tuned to the highest efficiency. The on-board computer logs nearly every component, ground equipment can make calculations on every meteorological condition encountered. This information is invaluable for the MANUFACTURERS research and development.

These fuckers can see what's going on with the plane before the pilot. The technology in a plane, knocks into a cocked hat even the most sophisticated car management systems.

They know what was happening and where it happened. They just need time to agree on the story. Nothing is left to chance in this day and age.

Wait for the official story, and then listen to the old (retired) hands who know and probably designed / worked with the technology who have nothing to fear speaking out about inconsistencies.

The truth is ALWAYS out there wrapped up in all the FUD.
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Nicely summed up.
The thought of it 'just dissapearing is intriguing though...
hf
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The day before this happened, I saw 3 major 'time-space' anomalies.

I saw a plane flying directly toward me in the middle of town, going in for a landing. Of course it didn't actually land. It was in the wrong place. NO AIRPORT!

It had rained the night before, thunder, lightning, a huge downpour. Yet the next morning the streets were dry.

Then, this plane disappeared. I mean to say that it lends itself to another anomaly. I've been seeing clusters of anomalies and this adds up to another one lost to time.
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I think they are still trying to figure out how to sell this story.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Has anyone seen the TV show LOST? They crashed landed on an island.
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there is no plane...
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Why start a new thread and get it pinned rather than staying on the main thread which should also be pinned?

Thread: BREAKING NEWS:Malaysia Airlines says it 'has lost contact' with plane carrying 239 people (Page 112)

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Lay your conspiracy theories to rest folks. The 777 and other modern airframes are ALL compromised.

Whistle blowers have been screaming for years that these aircraft had really shoddy airframes, were not made to spec and that numerous engineering standards bypassed. Including "shoehorning" mount points / bolts into place.

Basically, the airframes are literally coming apart. It's been about 10 years, the time frame the Whistle blowers estimated we'd start seeing catastrophic failures.

This is just the first of many we're going to hear about going forward.

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As Prewitt watched, she said, one worker pulled a chord from the stack and saw its holes were in the wrong place. "I said, 'So what do you do?' She grabbed a drill and drills a hole and connects it together," said Prewitt, now 45. "We're all appalled. I sat there watching her drill, drill, drill."

If it was made by Boeing in the last 15 years, it's a dangerous airframe folks.
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The 777 has been in service since 1995....a bit more than 10 years.
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The emotionally charged story of the cell phone calls/connections could be a red herring.
Look at all the interest it has generated -
all the time and effort devoted to this.
There is no reasonable way to prove or disprove.
It gives no real direction or clue to what happened.

The heart tugging story takes the focus from other aspects that are more substantive.
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Lay your conspiracy theories to rest folks. The 777 and other modern airframes are ALL compromised.

Whistle blowers have been screaming for years that these aircraft had really shoddy airframes, were not made to spec and that numerous engineering standards bypassed. Including "shoehorning" mount points / bolts into place.

Basically, the airframes are literally coming apart. It's been about 10 years, the time frame the Whistle blowers estimated we'd start seeing catastrophic failures.

This is just the first of many we're going to hear about going forward.

[link to www.nerdylorrin.net]

As Prewitt watched, she said, one worker pulled a chord from the stack and saw its holes were in the wrong place. "I said, 'So what do you do?' She grabbed a drill and drills a hole and connects it together," said Prewitt, now 45. "We're all appalled. I sat there watching her drill, drill, drill."

If it was made by Boeing in the last 15 years, it's a dangerous airframe folks.
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The 777 has been in service since 1995....a bit more than 10 years.
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The problem seems to be with Boeing. Many of their crashes are indeed related to structural weaknesses, that company refused to address (surprise?).

Airbus, as instance, have wing-tip protection against air vortexes (vortex-breakers), that are the cause of most crashes happening at landing/take-off. Boeing, until very recently, refrained from installing these on their planes.

These vortexes exert a lot of pulling pressure on the wings, resulting in breaking or planes suddenly tumbling.
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The important lesson for high-tech companies; do not, repeat do not, fly all your personnel on one aircraft. Scatter them on 10+ flights and watch how they'll explain ten sudden plane crashes. That'll get people's attention.
My opinion: The plane landed somewhere in Viet Nam. The plane will appear some time in the future and be used as a WMD. The passengers, the ones not connected with the hi-tech company were assassinated. The hi-tech ones have been taken prisoner and will be grilled for secret information of what they were making and then killed.
The world gets "curiouser and curiouser" as Alice in Wonderland once said.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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This literally just happened. What the fuck are you babbling about.
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What will be quite telling is how quickly the worlds news media choose to forget about this on going event.
Do they want the public to forget about it and stop asking questions or demanding answers.
Or do they want the public to keep up interest and help to get the case solved...
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I'm confused why MSM was directed by CIA et al to mention the TWO FAKE PASSPORTS issue, right away, kinda in the same cynical way they made MSM say, "We have to look to Osama Bin Laden," within a few minutes of the planes hitting the 9/11 towers.
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Fact number 7. Modern planes have all their systems constantly monitored and the information is continually sent back to the MANUFACTURERS by telemetry to allow the owners / lease holder / maintenance crews to know EXACTLY how the plane is performing giving details of the slightest deviation from optimum.

The huge cost of fuel means that aircraft is tuned to the highest efficiency. The on-board computer logs nearly every component, ground equipment can make calculations on every meteorological condition encountered. This information is invaluable for the MANUFACTURERS research and development.

These fuckers can see what's going on with the plane before the pilot. The technology in a plane, knocks into a cocked hat even the most sophisticated car management systems.

They know what was happening and where it happened. They just need time to agree on the story. Nothing is left to chance in this day and age.

Wait for the official story, and then listen to the old (retired) hands who know and probably designed / worked with the technology who have nothing to fear speaking out about inconsistencies.

The truth is ALWAYS out there wrapped up in all the FUD.
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Your post and information is absolutely 100% spot on..

I recently watched a documentary about the Roll Royce Factory here in the UK where the engines are manufactured.

Apart from the sheer mind boggling lengths of technology that go into making and testing (including purposefully destroying) the engines, what amazed me was the call-centre, where a massive team of engineers and technicians monitor in real-time every possible system on-board the aircraft.

It was stated that these guys know about problems and issues even before the pilot and flight crew.

Therefore, black boxes are virtually redundant given the information regarding everything on the plane, is already known by the monitoring team of techs.

Has anyone considered the aircraft was landed at a secret location and is still fully intact, passengers and all?
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Just my conspiracy theory.


12.41am: Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 takes off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA). The Boeing 777-200 was ferrying 239 people on board, including two infants and 12 crew members.
Theory: Which includes 2-4 false impostors probably Uyghur extremists. For this to happen, you first must understand how inefficient our customs are. There's been few occasions, that my hand luggage didn't even needs to go through the X-ray scanner.

1.30am: MH370 signal suddenly disappears from Department of Civil Aviation radar. The aircraft did not enter airspace controlled by China and did not make contact with Chinese controllers. The flight was scheduled to arrive in Beijing at 6.40am.
Theory: The plane was hijacked approximately 45 minutes after it took off, and the pilots tried their best to fight back and thus the turning back was evident in the flight path recording that later surfaced from the investigation. They even tried to release the aeroplane fuel hoping to leave some traces. After the cockpit was succesfully hijacked, the perpetrators then switched off the transponders thus the FlightRadar24 only shows the signal up to 45 minutes into the flight. The reason that the transponders were intentionally switched off was to avoid being detected too early and they might risk their mission.

2.41 am - Malaysian air traffic control in Subang lost contact with the plane, some two hours after it left Kuala Lumpur.
Theory: This may be the terrorists attempt to inform the ground crews in Subang Control Tower that the airliner has been hijacked. They then explain that this is a matter between Uyghur people and the Chinese government. And that they will not harm a single soul that is onboard of that plane unless the Communist party fails to come into terms with them. The Subang control tower crews then escalated such event to the Prime Ministers' office. Najib the PM of Malaysia, then immediately inform the Chinese government. The Chinese officials then advised that this matter will be taken care of by China and this news should not be released to the public, in return, China will provide future investments into Malaysia(a debt stricken country) and full support to its way beyong corrupted current ruling regime and in the country. Najib and the administration, quickly works together with MAS(also a debt ridden company which have been making huge losses in the recent years) airliner's top executives to contain the incident by wiping out all evidence that could lead to the suspicion of the plane has been hijacked e.g. any calls or communication that was recorded.


Theory: By around 3am or so, the hijackers knowingly that the fuel could only last for another 3-4 hours(to reserve the fuel for an escape if necessary), they then made the attempt to land the plane in Nanning province.
The negotiation then took place at Nanning airport and it lasted for about 2-3 hours. Knowing the Chinese government will never gives in to any terrorist demands, the negotiation fails and the bomb exploded killing most of the passengers and crews. The Chinese officials then starts to do the cleaning up work which may includes ending the lives of any survivors so that the incident could be contained and made sure no one speaks of it latter. As such handling of terrorist negotiation, would only deemed China as a non-humanitarian and tarnish their image globally. Somehow somewhere, that there was local people around Nanning that witness the landing of the plane and the rumors got leaked.

7.24 am - MAS announced it had lost contact with the flight.
Theory: After the cleaning up work was done, China officials informed the Malaysian government, and thus only at this hour the MAS made such media announcement.


10.15am: Report of flight MH370 making an emergency landing in Nanning, China, was confirmed to be false.
Theory: However, this report was quickly brushed away by controlled media of both sides in China and Malaysia. No reports, interviews or even testimonials were being investigated either til now that only make this rumor spells "suspicious". And it is very unlikely that airport control tower crews could make such mistake at such important juncture on falsely identifying a plane such of this size.

Assumption: Both Malaysian and Chinese governments are unmistakably capable of carrying such atrocities. Also the fact that, Malaysia is almost broke and the current ruling regime is barely hanging onto power. And almost anybody in the government can be bought by $$$.


Smoking gun: There is just too many things both the Malaysian government and the MAS airliner spokespersons are trying to hide. This is so obvious when you see how they release the public statements. The only information they are releasing once at a time are the information that is almost already publicly available. However, all these are just theories, as I felt something is really suspicious on how they could so quickly brush away the rumor without disclosing any information from investigation that states the landing at Nanning did not take place.


How to know if this theory is true: The wreckage will not be fully recovered only pieces of metal and bodies that were later dumped into the sea after the cleaning up. Also, the black box will never be discovered. And in months to come, Malaysia will suddenly be awarded large deals of investments from China such like the agreement to purchase palm oil from Malaysia that was already canceled by the previous Chinese president Hu Jin Tao last year.

Disclaimer: This only represent a theory and I do not wish to offend anyone especially any friends or family of the victims. I'm just merely producing a possibility from what my logical mind can think of after having studied my country's politics and the events in general. My purpose here is to point out to conspiracy theorists in this forum that are active in this topic and I have faith in you to investigate this much better than myself. And hopefully by any single glimpse of chance, that it could still be able to save some lives.
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Apparently you have a good knowledge and grasp of the political and economic situation of the country. However there's a snag to your theory. How did the plane manage to fly over Vietnamese airspace without their radars detecting? (unless Vietnam is on this too) And would 10 countries use their naval and military assets, spending millions of $$$ on this wild goose chase of trying to find the wreckage??
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My thoughts are this as well is that it vanished, that this event has now become the worlds leading story. I believe that the handlers or whoever is "gauging" the viewing public to see how they are responding. In "gauging" our responses on forums, facebook, twitter, etc. May give the TPTB some type of mood or mind set that human beings on earth are ready for this:

A) Alien Encounter
B) Scalar Weapons


By gauging our responses around the world will make them decide what to do. I believe if they think we are ready for Alien engagement then we will not see any debris or evidence of what happened, until maybe a later time.

** If they believe we are not ready, a debris field will turn up here in the next 2 days and this will be blamed on something else like Terrorism, faulty Boeing bla bla bla or what ever or Person of Interest was on that flight, who knows.

What ever it is, I believe it to be a test of human nature. We shall see... because yes, their is a big sea, but the one thing about the Air France flight, was they all knew where about it went down, They just could not "secure" the black box for a year or longer, BUT, they all had some evidence where about it went down.

This situation, no one knows JACK SHIT, which is a serious Red Flag....


The best part of this article is the CONCLUSION

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Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished
The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that they've somehow missed all along).

The inescapable conclusion is that Flight 370 simply vanished in some way that we do not yet understand. This is what is currently giving rise to all sorts of bizarre-sounding theories across the 'net, including discussions of possible secret military weapons tests, Bermuda Triangle-like ripples in the fabric of spacetime, and even conjecture that non-terrestrial (alien) technology may have teleported the plane away.

Personally, I'm not buying any of that without a lot more evidence. The most likely explanation so far is that the debris simply hasn't been found yet because it fell over an area which is somehow outside the search zone. But as each day goes by, even this explanation becomes harder and harder to swallow.

The frightening part about all this is not that we will find the debris of Flight 370; but rather that we won't. If we never find the debris, it means some entirely new, mysterious and powerful force is at work on our planet which can pluck airplanes out of the sky without leaving behind even a shred of evidence.

If there does exist a weapon with such capabilities, whoever control it already has the ability to dominate all of Earth's nations with a fearsome military weapon of unimaginable power. That thought is a lot more scary than the idea of an aircraft suffering a fatal mechanical failure.

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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An interesting thing to think about summing some of the theories....
The black boxes survived...but they are in another ...place,ship...starship,dimension,and they are still sending info.
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Where are theblack boxes from 9, 11?
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evaporated
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In Bush's award room

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Perhaps the aircraft landed or crashed in a remote area, in a Jungle, where it cannot be easily viewed from the air due to the tree canopy..?
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There were no aliens, scalar weapons, exploding or vaporizing airplanes.

This thing was hijacked, all tracking electronics turned off, and landed somewhere for the purposes of either using or assassinating someone on board.

I personally think the whole electronics team from that company were stolen to further some country's weapons agenda, and are currently being screwed up the ass until they agree to co-operate with their captors R&D.
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Everyone else onboard was shot in the head.
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The important lesson for high-tech companies; do not, repeat do not, fly all your personnel on one aircraft. Scatter them on 10+ flights and watch how they'll explain ten sudden plane crashes. That'll get people's attention.
My opinion: The plane landed somewhere in Viet Nam. The plane will appear some time in the future and be used as a WMD. The passengers, the ones not connected with the hi-tech company were assassinated. The hi-tech ones have been taken prisoner and will be grilled for secret information of what they were making and then killed.
The world gets "curiouser and curiouser" as Alice in Wonderland once said.
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If it is true that important assets relating to the
manufacture of quantum computers were onboard, then
that could be a huge red flag.

To my mind a quantum computer would act as a sort of
truth telling machine.

I really don't believe that our deeds are ever totally
lost in the passage of time.

Can you just imagine a
machine that can convict people, who thought they had
the world fooled all this time- by controlling our
noosphere, but who couldn't permanently erase the memory of
their evil deeds from the Fabrik of time?
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Why start a new thread and get it pinned rather than staying on the main thread which should also be pinned?

Thread: BREAKING NEWS:Malaysia Airlines says it 'has lost contact' with plane carrying 239 people (Page 112)

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Maybe because some info would be a distraction on the other thread, and this one is real open? Whatever the reason, it seems a better one to offer some "off the wall" information.
If OP doesn't want it here, ether delete it or let me know and I'll delete it.

Because the money trail usually leads somewhere, and because of all the "big" players in the game, and countries involved, the missing plane could just be a missing plane or it could be far more sinister, involving top people, many companies, and broad financial implications. Just tossing this out in case there's interest. Seems disconnected but the rabbit hole goes deep with many countries and top people. Maybe it's posted or been reported somewhere, but if it has, I haven't seen it and it seems important to know that Freescale, the company that had 20 people on board, was taken over by the Carlyle Group.

Connections And Then Some
David Rubenstein Has Made Millions
Pairing the Powerful With the Rich

Greg Schneider Washington Post Staff Writer
March 16, 2003
David M. Rubenstein is exasperated, and he blurts something that a quick look around the room proves is outrageous: "We're not," he nearly shouts, "that well connected!" Behind him is a picture of Rubenstein on a plane with then-Gov. George W. Bush. Across the room, a photo of Rubenstein with the president's father and mother. Next to that, Rubenstein and Mikhail Gorbachev. Elsewhere: Rubenstein and Jimmy Carter. On a bookshelf: Rubenstein and the pope.

This is not some honor wall in Rubenstein's office on Pennsylvania Avenue, this is his wood-paneled den at home in Bethesda. The snapshots are nearly hidden among books and trinkets and family photos -- the decorating restraint of the truly, deeply connected.

Rubenstein, after all, is co-founder of the Carlyle Group, an investment house famous as one of the most well-connected companies anywhere. Former president George H.W. Bush is a Carlyle adviser. Former British prime minister John Major heads its European arm. Former secretary of state James Baker is senior counselor, former White House budget chief Richard Darman is a partner, former SEC chairman Arthur Levitt is senior adviser -- the list goes on.

Those associations have brought Carlyle enormous success. Founded in 1987 with $5 million, the Washington-based merchant bank controls nearly $14 billion in investments, making it the largest private equity manager in the world. It buys and sells whole companies the way some firms trade shares of stock.

But the connections also have cost Carlyle, in ways that are hard to measure. It has developed a reputation as the CIA of the business world -- omnipresent, powerful, a little sinister. Media outlets from the Village Voice to BusinessWeek have depicted Carlyle as manipulating the levers of government from shadowy back rooms. "The Iron Triangle," a book about the company due out next month, promises to take readers into "a world that few of us can even imagine, full of clandestine meetings [and] quid pro quo deals."
[link to www.wanttoknow.info]


In September 2006, Carlyle led a consortium, comprising Blackstone Group, Permira and TPG Capital, in the $17.6 billion takeover of Freescale Semiconductor. At the time of its announcement, Freescale would be the largest leveraged buyout of a technology company ever, surpassing the 2005 buyout of SunGard. The buyers were forced to pay an extra $800 million because KKR made a last minute bid as the original deal was about to be signed.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Carlyle Group - Bush connection to Bin Laden



Obama crony joins Carlyle Group
By Patrick Martin
9 January 2014

In a particularly crass example of the revolving door between high office in Washington and high finance, the outgoing chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Julius Genachowski, has taken a top position with the multi-billion dollar Carlyle Group, the third-largest private equity firm in the United States.
[link to www.wsws.org (secure)]

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wtf today they are searching Malacca strait which is on a totally OPPOSITE side of Malaysia?!
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
A Natural News Article:
See link below for a more detailed description of each.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature


• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Interesting to say the least...

Read more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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re #4
Missile is much smaller than plane so a return at that range is unlikely. However, since 4 stolen passports were on board a missile prob was not used.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
The emotionally charged story of the cell phone calls/connections could be a red herring.
Look at all the interest it has generated -
all the time and effort devoted to this.
There is no reasonable way to prove or disprove.
It gives no real direction or clue to what happened.

The heart tugging story takes the focus from other aspects that are more substantive.
 Quoting: ancha


I was just speaking about this with my housemate...

It becomes hard to discuss things with your neighbor/friend when each of you 'heard' different things (whether MSM,Twitter, FB, whatever) especially the heart-tugging stuff...each of you believes *your* source whole-heartedly (your 'source' could be a friend or family member related in some way to said incident) so instead of talking about the bigger picture "WE" end up arguing against mute points...missing the solution altogether...similar to how a double-blind works...

I was trained in some of this psychological warfare...it's pretty bad stuff when it done to someone one-on-one but it's a WHOLE 'NOTHER thing to do it on a mass scale. I had to get out of that kinda stuff, it made me feel dirty inside and I had to drink to go to sleep :/
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They ascended
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
The emotionally charged story of the cell phone calls/connections could be a red herring.
Look at all the interest it has generated -
all the time and effort devoted to this.
There is no reasonable way to prove or disprove.
It gives no real direction or clue to what happened.

The heart tugging story takes the focus from other aspects that are more substantive.
 Quoting: ancha


I was just speaking about this with my housemate...

It becomes hard to discuss things with your neighbor/friend when each of you 'heard' different things (whether MSM,Twitter, FB, whatever) especially the heart-tugging stuff...each of you believes *your* source whole-heartedly (your 'source' could be a friend or family member related in some way to said incident) so instead of talking about the bigger picture "WE" end up arguing against mute points...missing the solution altogether...similar to how a double-blind works...

I was trained in some of this psychological warfare...it's pretty bad stuff when it done to someone one-on-one but it's a WHOLE 'NOTHER thing to do it on a mass scale. I had to get out of that kinda stuff, it made me feel dirty inside and I had to drink to go to sleep :/
 Quoting: Tampa Heather


Thank you. You said it well. hf
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Re: Six important facts you're not being told about lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Why start a new thread and get it pinned rather than staying on the main thread which should also be pinned?

Thread: BREAKING NEWS:Malaysia Airlines says it 'has lost contact' with plane carrying 239 people (Page 112)

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


Maybe because some info would be a distraction on the other thread, and this one is real open? Whatever the reason, it seems a better one to offer some "off the wall" information.
If OP doesn't want it here, ether delete it or let me know and I'll delete it.

Because the money trail usually leads somewhere, and because of all the "big" players in the game, and countries involved, the missing plane could just be a missing plane or it could be far more sinister, involving top people, many companies, and broad financial implications. Just tossing this out in case there's interest. Seems disconnected but the rabbit hole goes deep with many countries and top people. Maybe it's posted or been reported somewhere, but if it has, I haven't seen it and it seems important to know that Freescale, the company that had 20 people on board, was taken over by the Carlyle Group.

Connections And Then Some
David Rubenstein Has Made Millions
Pairing the Powerful With the Rich

Greg Schneider Washington Post Staff Writer
March 16, 2003
David M. Rubenstein is exasperated, and he blurts something that a quick look around the room proves is outrageous: "We're not," he nearly shouts, "that well connected!" Behind him is a picture of Rubenstein on a plane with then-Gov. George W. Bush. Across the room, a photo of Rubenstein with the president's father and mother. Next to that, Rubenstein and Mikhail Gorbachev. Elsewhere: Rubenstein and Jimmy Carter. On a bookshelf: Rubenstein and the pope.

This is not some honor wall in Rubenstein's office on Pennsylvania Avenue, this is his wood-paneled den at home in Bethesda. The snapshots are nearly hidden among books and trinkets and family photos -- the decorating restraint of the truly, deeply connected.

Rubenstein, after all, is co-founder of the Carlyle Group, an investment house famous as one of the most well-connected companies anywhere. Former president George H.W. Bush is a Carlyle adviser. Former British prime minister John Major heads its European arm. Former secretary of state James Baker is senior counselor, former White House budget chief Richard Darman is a partner, former SEC chairman Arthur Levitt is senior adviser -- the list goes on.

Those associations have brought Carlyle enormous success. Founded in 1987 with $5 million, the Washington-based merchant bank controls nearly $14 billion in investments, making it the largest private equity manager in the world. It buys and sells whole companies the way some firms trade shares of stock.

But the connections also have cost Carlyle, in ways that are hard to measure. It has developed a reputation as the CIA of the business world -- omnipresent, powerful, a little sinister. Media outlets from the Village Voice to BusinessWeek have depicted Carlyle as manipulating the levers of government from shadowy back rooms. "The Iron Triangle," a book about the company due out next month, promises to take readers into "a world that few of us can even imagine, full of clandestine meetings [and] quid pro quo deals."
[link to www.wanttoknow.info]


In September 2006, Carlyle led a consortium, comprising Blackstone Group, Permira and TPG Capital, in the $17.6 billion takeover of Freescale Semiconductor. At the time of its announcement, Freescale would be the largest leveraged buyout of a technology company ever, surpassing the 2005 buyout of SunGard. The buyers were forced to pay an extra $800 million because KKR made a last minute bid as the original deal was about to be signed.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Carlyle Group - Bush connection to Bin Laden



Obama crony joins Carlyle Group
By Patrick Martin
9 January 2014

In a particularly crass example of the revolving door between high office in Washington and high finance, the outgoing chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Julius Genachowski, has taken a top position with the multi-billion dollar Carlyle Group, the third-largest private equity firm in the United States.
[link to www.wsws.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Nine's


Wow ^^

Wonder how much *clean up* will be done on this thread now?
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