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Awakening a Sleeping Giant(Mutilation and Torture of US soldiers)

 
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They had their throats slit, eyes gouged out, arms and legs broken and twisted at awkward angles, disembowelled, and their genitals removed and stuffed in what remained of their mouth. They will have to be identified by DNA. We should not take another prisoner, not a single one; just kill the vermin.

Most of the MSM will not report the full extent of this atrocity but Edie on FOX was livid.
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Awakening a Sleeping Giant
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Frederick J. Chiaventone


If in the case of Iraq there has been any lessening of resolve among the American electorate, and to read the newspapers and listen to a great many television pundits one might certainly think there has, the events of the past 48 hours should put these doubts to rest.

American forces have recovered the remains of two soldiers, Privates Thomas Tucker and Kristian Menchaca, ambushed and kidnapped at a check point in the aptly named “Triangle of Death” south of Baghdad. Specialist David Babineau, died in the attack and was not captured.

Iraqi Major General Abdul-Aziz Mohammed Jassim, director of the Iraqi military operations room, stated “with great regret” that there is strong evidence that the soldiers in question had been captured alive, horribly tortured, mutilated, and then murdered. Major General Jassim described the way in which these brave soldiers died as “barbaric.” This probably means that they were beheaded.

A bulletin dor the blissfully ignorant opponents of our commitment to the Iraqi people: this is the true face of the enemy. This is representative of the fate they have in store for all of those – American, British, Iraqi, soldier or civilian, man, woman or child, – whoever does not share their twisted and sadistic view of the world. Nowhere in scripture or practice do the jihadis see a limit to the scope of their ambitions of less than a global caliphate. It is only a matter of time and tactics for them.

If they have not already figured it out, and it is highly unlikely that they have, the murderers in Iraq have made yet another egregious error. Perhaps even a fatal one for their own cause. Americans don’t react to barbarity in the way in which our enemies hope. Americans still remember the Alamo.

Consider the aftermath of the Little Bighorn.

Consider the evidence of Pearl Harbor.

Too many would-be enemies forget the prophetic words of Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto following that attack when he said; “I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.”

Americans don’t react well or predictably to threats, murder, and treachery. This repugnance and stubborn resolve seems to be in our genes. Recently I have been re-reading a series of excellent books by Allan Eckert detailing the founding of America. In one of these books, The Conquerors, Eckert details the attempt in 1763 by Ottawa war chief Pontiac to lead a great uprising of tribes against British and American interests in the Great Lakes region.

Pontiac’s approach, much like that of the mullahs and terrorists in Iraq, was characterized by his fiery oratorical presence among the tribes and his ready resort to extreme treachery, barbarity, and viciousness. At the height of his influence Pontiac led the forces of 18 tribes, thousands of hardened warriors, from throughout the Great Lakes region all the way to the Mississippi. The American and British presence throughout the region was laughably small with the largest garrison of troops, fewer than 200 at the present site of the city of Detroit, Michigan. Pontiac and his legions, whose methods ran to wholesale destruction and bloodshed, disdained taking prisoners except for the purposes of slavery and horrendous torture. Pontiac’s onslaught on the frontier was exceptionally bloody and merciless.

But the reaction of the British governors of the region and, most especially, the Americans who populated this frontier, was far from that which Pontiac had expected. The American reaction especially was of outrage and retaliation. The frontiersmen fought back with an unparalleled fury. Within two years Pontiac’s great confederacy was a shambles. A few years later the once great war chief was murdered by a fellow Indian near present day St. Louis.

In Iraq the terrorist mastermind Al-Zarqawi is dead and his would-be successor Abu Hamza al-Muhajer has stepped into the dead killer’s shoes announcing that the heinous and unspeakable murder of these American soldiers is his personal doing. Perhaps he believes that by so doing he announces his own implacable opposition to American and Iraqi interests and his ability to strike at will.

Perhaps Al-Muhajer has what passes for an excellent grasp of supposed Islamic history. But what Al-Mujaher is severely lacking is an appreciation of American history and the nature of American willpower. Unless I miss my guess, he is about to find out. It will not be a pleasant lesson.
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yeah it sucks

but tell me,, why are we there? just one valid reason
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We're retaining our right to oil.
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yeah it sucks

but tell me,, why are we there? just one valid reason
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As much as I hate this war and the reasons.

This is still wrong and disgusting, unfortunate truly
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yeah it sucks

but tell me,, why are we there? just one valid reason
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1. To keep terrorists as much on the run as possible in order to delay nuclear terrorism

2. To send a clear message to the rest of the world that they do not want hostile American forces to occupy their country FOR ANY REASON!!! Oh, they may not like us, but I imagine they now fear US military forces more than ever before in their lifetimes. That much I feel is at least for certain AND THAT IS A GOOD THING!!! It just may save many American soldiers lives in the future


Now we can easily see that the radical Islamic Muslims who do these things are no better than Americans although they seem to think that such atrocities are holy and blessed by Allah.

Such actions will most definitely cause the American fighting forces to be even more brutal in striking fear into ANY Islamic Muslim who refuses to give over information of where terrorist insurgents are hiding and making their plots of destruction. So, the Christians are certain that God is not at all responsible for such atrocities, eh? Obviously, they read their Bibles with their eyes wide shut!

Where the hell do they think the Catholic Inquisitions got their ideas for torturing non-believers?
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Have you considered for just one second that we may have done this to gain support for the war?
Edie from Fox, now there is a real deep thinker whose opinion I respect...

Do you even know who Josef Goebbels was?

You can bet your ass Karl Rove does.
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1. To keep terrorists as much on the run as possible in order to delay nuclear terrorism

2. To send a clear message to the rest of the world that they do not want hostile American forces to occupy their country FOR ANY REASON!!! Oh, they may not like us, but I imagine they now fear US military forces more than ever before in their lifetimes. That much I feel is at least for certain AND THAT IS A GOOD THING!!! It just may save many American soldiers lives in the future

again, could you give me one good reason?
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1. To keep terrorists as much on the run as possible in order to delay nuclear terrorism


The US's presence in Iraq creates more terrorists daily than we could possibly kill. Their hate grows daily. There will never be a "good" time to leave, just like there was not a "good" time to leave Vietnam. We lost something like 50K young men in Vietnam where we couldn't win, and wouldn't quit.
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Because Afghanistan was too easy.
Bush needed a "long war" to impliment the plan, and he(or who ever does his thinking) figured the Soviets had such a protracted conflict there, it was the perfect venue. When they folded like a poker player with 2-7 off suit, they poked around for the next patsy.

NK was too volitile, Iran too big a challenge, and nobody gives a shit about anywhere in Africa. So they settled on Iraq.

It may not be good, but there is your reason.
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Have you considered for just one second that we may have done this to gain support for the war?
Edie from Fox, now there is a real deep thinker whose opinion I respect...

Do you even know who Josef Goebbels was?

You can bet your ass Karl Rove does.
 Quoting: The Angel of Death


Correct Angel of Death. Yet ANOTHER psyop that most idiot yanks (the yanks that watch FOX) will fall for hook, line and sinker. It would be so damn refreshing; like a breath of fresh air, if you STUPID dudes would think for yourself for once instead of watching and believing Government Propaganda News. Are you men or mice?

Incase you haven't noticed, you have an EVIL cabal running your country that has okayed TORTURE, and I woouldn't put ANYTHING past them...ANYTHING...even ordering this done themselves, just like the beheadings, to fool the idiots with shit for brains.

Thank the Lord that not ALL Americans are dumb, brainwashed farts!! If you watch FOX news you deserve contempt.
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That giant sure thrashs alot in his sleep.

The American administration there has been designed to inflame insurgents, you're in their country raping their women and torturing their people as institutional policy.

Now you want to increase the brutality as retribution?

Better stop court-martialing your soldiers that cross the line into bloodthirsty murderers, and letting their bosses smell like roses.
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So now you complaing when your soldiers gets tortured but you are quiet when your soldiers are doing the torture and killings. Hypocrite!
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At least Edie from FOX told the true nature of the death of the soldiers. I do not think you will hear the true story in or on many other media outlets.

Hell, when was the last time you saw people jumping to their deaths from 70 floors up after 9/11. How about Berg's beheading? How about any other beheadings? How about the burned contractor bodies hanging from the bridge in Fallujah?

Oh, but I have seen the panties on the head and naked pyramid piles 100s of times as regards Abu Ghraib. Do not attempt to lecture me about the Nazi propaganda Minister, our media is just as good, except they are working for our opponent.
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They hate us for our freedoms.
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You don't get it.
The Abu Graib photos were shoved down our throats to desensitize us to it. To address it immediately, rather than let it fester as a seed of discontent. Ask the average man on the street, and he'll tell you "that's old news."

When I heard Edie's rant, my thought was how callous she was to say that, and how it must make the parents of the dead soldiers feel. Just another talking head covered in make-up talking about something horrible, then smiling for the next story about the Good Year blimp.

And I will continue to lecture any and all on Goebbels, as no one seems to remeber the core of his teachings.
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They hate us for our freedoms.
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Are you being sarcastic? Because this is certainly not the truth.

The USA is hated for its brutality, lies, corruption, greed, arrogance, destruction, manipulation, ignorance, disrespect.........do you get it yet?
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At least Edie from FOX told the true nature of the death of the soldiers. I do not think you will hear the true story in or on many other media outlets.

Hell, when was the last time you saw people jumping to their deaths from 70 floors up after 9/11. How about Berg's beheading? How about any other beheadings? How about the burned contractor bodies hanging from the bridge in Fallujah?

Oh, but I have seen the panties on the head and naked pyramid piles 100s of times as regards Abu Ghraib. Do not attempt to lecture me about the Nazi propaganda Minister, our media is just as good, except they are working for our opponent.
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Christ man, WHY do you think this "Edie" from FOX the Government Propoganda station was so descriptive? Who typically watches FOX? Conservatives/Republicans watch FOX, and that is GWB's political base. Can't you recognize when you are being purposefully baited like an animal for supporting WAR?!! I find it hard to believe that some folk as so damned idiotic...really.

Once you finally get it into your head that you are being played for fools by Rove the American propaganda minister,(and have been since 2000) and realize just how EVIL a Government you actually have, you will look at the deaths of these troops with GREAT SUSPICION.

I seriously believe some people have had a labotomy and never even realized it. Are you a human being who THINKS or an animal who instinctively REACTS? If you watch and believe FOX it must be the latter.
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now im not 100% sure but it was probably the CIA who did it
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now im not 100% sure but it was probably the CIA who did it
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...or Mossad.
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Correct Angel of Death. Yet ANOTHER psyop that most idiot yanks (the yanks that watch FOX) will fall for hook, line and sinker. It would be so damn refreshing; like a breath of fresh air, if you STUPID dudes would think for yourself for once instead of watching and believing Government Propaganda News. Are you men or mice?

Incase you haven't noticed, you have an EVIL cabal running your country that has okayed TORTURE, and I woouldn't put ANYTHING past them...ANYTHING...even ordering this done themselves, just like the beheadings, to fool the idiots with shit for brains.

Thank the Lord that not ALL Americans are dumb, brainwashed farts!! If you watch FOX news you deserve contempt.

THE ABOVE IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENNING. ANYBODY WHO BELIEVE OTHERWISE IS A SHEEPLE.

jezz, the poster of the above post always read my mind? cause in most if not all cases he/she says what i had in mind and wanted to say.
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Correct Angel of Death. Yet ANOTHER psyop that most idiot yanks (the yanks that watch FOX) will fall for hook, line and sinker. It would be so damn refreshing; like a breath of fresh air, if you STUPID dudes would think for yourself for once instead of watching and believing Government Propaganda News. Are you men or mice?

Incase you haven't noticed, you have an EVIL cabal running your country that has okayed TORTURE, and I woouldn't put ANYTHING past them...ANYTHING...even ordering this done themselves, just like the beheadings, to fool the idiots with shit for brains.

Thank the Lord that not ALL Americans are dumb, brainwashed farts!! If you watch FOX news you deserve contempt.

THE ABOVE IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENNING. ANYBODY WHO BELIEVE OTHERWISE IS A SHEEPLE.

jezz, the poster of the above post always read my mind? cause in most if not all cases he/she says what i had in mind and wanted to say.
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The CIA are drug merchants.
You'll never know the name of the group that does these things.
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47355,
You're not the only one!
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We joined the evil with Abu Graib.
It is time to reflect on all that has been done in the name of God, and the name of revenge for 911. Have we not spilled enough blood to avenge.
The evil ones used fear, and the Christian Right, to create this horror called Iraq War.
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you're equating this act of barbaric savagery w/ that?

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Stange how log of posters avoid judging the acts of the human trash that, in their words, "slaughtered the cusader animals".

Guess it's time for a real crusade.
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Well, it sound like 'special ops' to me!


See the 2nd post in,

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... And so it was again this week when the Washington Post outlined the Pentagon's plan to put dirty war – by death squad, by snatch squad, by secret armies, subversion, torture and terrorism– at the very heart of America's military philosophy. Not defense against declared enemies, not deterrence of potential foes, but conducting "continuous" covert military operations in countries "where the United States is not at war" is now the Pentagon's "highest priority," according to the new "campaign plan for the global war on terror" issued by Donald Rumsfeld.

What’s more, the plan makes it clear that Rumsfeld, far from being politically vulnerable – as portrayed in the ludicrous kabuki of the Establishment media – has in fact been exalted above every other institution and official of the U.S. government, with the exception of the twin tyrants in the White House, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. The Pentagon warlord has been given carte blanche to send the 53,000 secret soldiers of the Special Operations Command into any nation he pleases, to undertake any mission he pleases, without Congressional approval, legal restraint, or the authority of the target nation's U.S. ambassador. Thus America's diplomats, the ostensible representatives of the nation abroad, have been reduced to mere frontmen, pathetic beards for black ops savaging the laws, sovereignty and citizens of their hosts.

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Perhaps most ominously, the plan makes copious preparations for expanding the range of the terror war even further. The trigger for these new actions is another terrorist strike on American soil. Oddly enough, the Bush Faction considers such an unspeakable horror as an "opportunity," Pentagon officials told the Post; it would provide a "justification," they said, for hitting already targeted individuals, groups and states that for various political reasons have not yet been subjected to what Bush likes to call, in his bloodthirsty parlance, "the path of action."

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It's further spelled out in some of the sublinks.
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How would the citizens of the USA treat soldiers who invaded their country and started slaughtering people?
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The USA is hated for its brutality, lies, corruption, greed, arrogance, destruction, manipulation, ignorance, disrespect.........do you get it yet?
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Absolutely, I for one can vouch for that!
But not the nation as such, grouphug just it´s military and those who misuse them and the power in the war-machine ! protest





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