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The Vegans ... are you one

 
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Each to their own. I prefer a vegan, raw diet.

Personally i find meat doesn't agree with my digestive system. I have also found it effects behaviour.

I also couldn't kill so aren't going to pay someone to be cruel to and to kill for me.

The cruelty the mass production, battery hens, sow stall etc really gets to me.

I believe we are taught animals are dumb for a reason.

I've studied enough biology to discern in my own mind that we are not natural meat eater.
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I'm not a vegan but I the only animal products I eat is the occasional egg (mostly in products, like bread etc) and maybe a little ice cream or milk in my coffee on occasion. I try to stick with almond milk but sometimes there's nothing like real milk!
"When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." -Jefferson
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Veganism rising high
after stories that Willie Pickton put human flesh in his
pork which was processed for hot dogs.

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Do no harm

is the wiccan vegan motto
used by Buddhists, Hindus, and Christians [Genesis 1:29]
Who here is vegan ?
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i'am

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Each to their own. I prefer a vegan, raw diet.

Personally i find meat doesn't agree with my digestive system. I have also found it effects behaviour.

I also couldn't kill so aren't going to pay someone to be cruel to and to kill for me.

The cruelty the mass production, battery hens, sow stall etc really gets to me.

I believe we are taught animals are dumb for a reason.

I've studied enough biology to discern in my own mind that we are not natural meat eater.
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Kinda true...you can see in the design of certain fruits and vegetables how they conform to our hands perfectly.
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Vegetarian/Vegan for almost 40 years, 90 % raw, no processed or oils for about 2. Feel like I'm 15 since going raw no processed or oils.
And, no one has ever guessed my age correct by 15 years.
try it.
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I call bullshit on you. We need fats, your brain is 70% fats.... Well.. It was
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I went vegan 8-9 years ago. To the parent of the vegan, you should let your child do her own thing. If she discovered your betrayal, she may not take care of you in your old age. Don't betray the choices of others.
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Thanks, I ask her if I can butter her toast and sometimes she agrees but still won't eat it. She doesn't like anything else on it. She'll eat eggs and I scramble those in butter but it's not an every day thing. She finally started eating the yolk in hard boiled eggs too thank goodness! Thanks, if she sticks with it as she gets older, she had no idea she's a vegan it's not something she consciously chose, I wouldn't interfere in her eating. I hated it when my parents insisted I eat something I didn't have a taste for.
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When your daughter grows up, she will get her revenge and do this to you:



Is that what you want?!
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Thread: Why Are Vegans Such Name-Calling Pussies?
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Each to their own. I prefer a vegan, raw diet.
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Don't 4get

no GNO
HERITAGE SEEDS

if it isn't heritage seed
its not organic / non GMO
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My God eats plenty of flesh and so do I. The bible is full of examples of owning cattle and also slaying the fatted calf to celebrate. Beef, its whats for dinner. Thank you Jesus.
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After the fall into murder rape greed theft fraud lechery
yes the bible documents 6000 yrs of sin/sickness.

And mentions little about the eternity of paradise
except ppl are vegan in paradise.

Let me be clear I do not fully trust the bible as a source.
I included it for those who needed it.

THE SOURCE is my source !
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The source isn't the name of a god. My God has a name. As I asked God to reveal hisself to me He did and so I never distrust his Word so carefully given to all of us. Of course there is 6000 years of fallen shit under satan's rule. Did you even notice that time is up What do you suppose happens next? You're about to miss the next step into eternity. Whatever we eat there will be much more delicious than anything we've known.
Acts 3:21
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Each to their own. I prefer a vegan, raw diet.
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Don't 4get

no GNO
HERITAGE SEEDS

if it isn't heritage seed
its not organic / non GMO
 Quoting: WhichisWitch


Yes and they are becoming harder to source. People don't even realise most seeds they buy from retailers are not only gm they don't even produce viable seed. They have made them infertile so you have to keep buying, season after season.

The reality most don't see is the situation we find ourselves in has had a lot of time and effort put into it. It is all by design to the detail, and certainly not for our interest or benefit.

They unfortunately fell for the well worked distractions and deception and now want to hate on people that try to tell them truth.

No point arguing though. Gracefully try to help, and gracefully walk away when shown your welcomed.
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edit above, not welcomed
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This is what your are responsible for, you pay for it. Want to eat meat, have the dignity to do it yourself and show some humanity, or eat what you can live with.

Do you know why a drumstick is longer on a free range hen than other hens, they stand in their own discharge all day and it burns their legs, they cut them higher as even plucked you would notice the burns and discolouration and wouldn't eat it. Do you know how your nuggets are made?

If you want to eat meat, go for it. But don't blindly argue, or pull the i didn't know card, like we do with so much else in life.

Turn of big brother, the voice and educate yourself before claiming lack of knowledge. It's all there for you to see, if you open your eyes people.

Many things in life, our trust that we handed to the people in charge has been taken advantage of. Open your eyes to the pies you have your fingers caught in.

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i try to stick with pasture raised(chicken etc.) and grass fed(beef,bison,lamb)
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I think it is important to cut down on meat. Eat only small amounts of very good quality meat and make sure you know where the animal comes from.

We get our meat from a local butchers and quite often know the farm from where they came.
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No, I'm not vegan or vegetarian. There was a follow up to that verse.

Genesis 9:3
Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
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So you are saying it's ok for YOU to eat because God said so ? and that God doesn't care if animals are abused for your appetite ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40288813

Full literal interpretation of that verse means cannibalism, or eating thy neighbors, is eating "everything that lives and moves about that will be food for thee". So, cannibalism should not be condemned(?) if you really want to apply the fullness of that verse in it's literal sense.
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I can chop a limb off a tree and it will grow back
If I cut a limb off a member here its unlikely it'll grow back.

Obvious differences here.
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big hug op

Yes Im a vegetarian and I love it, since my teens never had any meat
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You know the saying

I dont eat my friends thats why I am a vegetarian...animals are my friends
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I've no issue with vegans. What I have issue with are those that don't practice what they preach - which are all vegans.

Hate to tell you this, but not eating animal products means shit if you still buy your clothes at stores, drive cars, use the internet, and have a bank account. Break down everything that goes into the process to get you those things. Yep, guess what, you are killing animals and the planet.

So unless you guys are hermits in a cave picking your own cotton for your clothes, you are not vegan. You are just more folks jumping on the trend.
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Romans 14:2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them.

One of my children is mostly vegan, it just came naturally to her. I try to sneak in as much animal fat as I can into her diet and we've discussed how important it is for her to eat a complete protein so I have some special food for her that helps meet her needs.
 Quoting: nah™




putin

Where does this 'complete protein' nonsense come from? Plants do provide all the proteins the human body needs.
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I've no issue with vegans. What I have issue with are those that don't practice what they preach - which are all vegans.

Hate to tell you this, but not eating animal products means shit if you still buy your clothes at stores, drive cars, use the internet, and have a bank account. Break down everything that goes into the process to get you those things. Yep, guess what, you are killing animals and the planet.

So unless you guys are hermits in a cave picking your own cotton for your clothes, you are not vegan. You are just more folks jumping on the trend.
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What a load of nonsense. Every restriction in consumption is positive and a vegan definitely consumes less energy, water, land, etc. than a vegetarian or a meat eater.

The major problem is the taxes you have to pay and that are being used to subsidize milk and meat consumption (an live animal exports to muslim countries) in a way that meat, eggs and milk products in Europe are cheaper than vegetables. This is perversion sponsored by the EU.
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I have been vegan for 20 years and look like I'm 20. I look younger now than I did when I went vegan. I have helped thousands go vegan. Those that stayed with it are in great shape. Those that didn't, well... let's just say they wish they had stayed with it.

For those worried about protein, you get protein from all whole food sources. Everything that grows uses amino acids to build itself. If you eat a variety of plant food that is not all processed you will get all the protein you need.

Did you know that gram for gram raw sunflower seeds contain more protein than egg? You don't need eggs to survive. Spirulina is also a great protein boost if you're so worried. I take zero supplements, barely eat spirulina, when I remember, and eat the rainbow of organic fruits and vegetables and my blood work is fantastic according to the doctors.

My skin is supple and I have zero stretch marks after having a baby!!!! I also nursed and there is not one mark on my body that would tell you I had a baby.

I was raw for years as well. The best I ever felt. I'll go back to eating only raw food soon :) I love food!

I went vegan after researching my alternatives and I can't kill. I tried to kill a frog once with a 22 and it severely damaged my soul. My dad is a hunter and I grew up watching him hunt. My soul is not meant to be that kind of human. We all have our own paths. Do not condemn others because you like to kill.
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Vegetarian/Vegan for almost 40 years, 90 % raw, no processed or oils for about 2. Feel like I'm 15 since going raw no processed or oils.
And, no one has ever guessed my age correct by 15 years.
try it.
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I call bullshit on you. We need fats, your brain is 70% fats.... Well.. It was
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Nuts, coconuts and linseed are perfect sources. They contain a lot of omega 3 fat.
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I've no issue with vegans. What I have issue with are those that don't practice what they preach - which are all vegans.

Hate to tell you this, but not eating animal products means shit if you still buy your clothes at stores, drive cars, use the internet, and have a bank account. Break down everything that goes into the process to get you those things. Yep, guess what, you are killing animals and the planet.

So unless you guys are hermits in a cave picking your own cotton for your clothes, you are not vegan. You are just more folks jumping on the trend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7444168


Jumping on the trend, or little by little working towards an end goal. Are you trying to belittle people, or take from people who are trying to be better people?
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Really you consume less energy? Do you buy only local? Where do you get your quinoa from? Do you buy only local clothes made by
Hermits?


Look into the costs energy wise of what it takes to ship these products to you. To process them. The foods and supplements vegans need to be healthy Lends them a higher carbon footprint. And that is a fact, you can google that.

Unless of course you are a hermit living in South America.
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No, pointing out hypocrisy. I've no problem with people trying to eat less meat. I can rarely eat meat myself, since I have gout. And it is admirable for folks to try to be more Eco minded.

I was talking more to the people going on about meat eaters being evil murderes all that, while making themselves out I be virtuous. These are he same people that do that, then go import apple computers, buy non natural fiber clothes, and all that other jazz.

And that sort of self righteous preachy idiocy is annoying. Not those who are just being positive, and happy about being vegans.


Either way. Eat local. Buy local and organic (easy where I am from, not sure where else). Be happy. But don't preach because it turns you into a jackass
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Romans 14:2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them.

One of my children is mostly vegan, it just came naturally to her. I try to sneak in as much animal fat as I can into her diet and we've discussed how important it is for her to eat a complete protein so I have some special food for her that helps meet her needs.
 Quoting: nah™

We do not need animal protein if you know how to get that from your vegetarian diet.

Though not a vegan (am vegetarian) I eat a lot of lentil soups which has much better and innocent proteins than animal meats.
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No, pointing out hypocrisy. I've no problem with people trying to eat less meat. I can rarely eat meat myself, since I have gout. And it is admirable for folks to try to be more Eco minded.

I was talking more to the people going on about meat eaters being evil murderes all that, while making themselves out I be virtuous. These are he same people that do that, then go import apple computers, buy non natural fiber clothes, and all that other jazz.

And that sort of self righteous preachy idiocy is annoying. Not those who are just being positive, and happy about being vegans.


Either way. Eat local. Buy local and organic (easy where I am from, not sure where else). Be happy. But don't preach because it turns you into a jackass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7444168


Brother or sister the reason for not eating meat is not going green but saving the life of an innocent defenseless animal which wants to live just like my son and daughter want to live. By killing it I put my one meal (or maybe a few meals) more than the life of the animal.

We have become so selfish that we kill and take away the life of an innocent animal to satiate a few of our meals. Put yourself or your baby in the place of the slaughtered animal and then tell me if you will call the meat eaters murderers or not?
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The problem with that, is you are still killing animals. Even by posting here. Don't believe me? look it up.

You can't avoid it unless you are a Hermit. You can however, reduce what you do. Eat and consume products more logically, researching what you are doing. And that is the name of the game. It won't give you any spiritual superiority. It won't get you any health superiority. It however, may keep the planet safe for a little while longer - which is its own reward.

So effectively, if you are becoming a Vegan to prevent from killing animals, you are unfortunately not going to achieve that goal. If you are doing it to try to be more eco-friendly, that is sustainable. But then you don't necessarily need to go Vegan. You just need to buy local, and I mean real local.
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No, I'm a carnivore.
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No, I'm not vegan or vegetarian. There was a follow up to that verse.

Genesis 9:3
Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.
 Quoting: MartyWrites

Vegetarian and Vegan kids that I brought up without meat. I have returned to eating meat.

New book "Dominion" recommended about these bible verses by vegan-says best book EVER- so I'll borrow it when he's finished.





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