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HOUSE OSC Votes 21-12 to hold Louis Lerner in contempt of congress - Updated

 
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ah, i see. ok what happens now? do we know what's going on in there? is there another day to it or more action today?
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I believe that the contempt charge is then sent to a federal judge for a final ruling. If upheld, Congress would be in their right to have her arrested.

I'm not an attorney, but I think that is how it would go...
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"..The vote sets up a full debate on the House floor.."

[link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]
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Thanks...I also thought that Issa mentioned that the contempt charge would also be ruled upon by a federal judge. Was that maybe what he expected to occur after the full House voted to hold her in contempt, and the Dems subsequently challenge?...or is that a part of the process? I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that he stated a Federal Judge would rule on this at some point.
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I think he was probably referring to:

"..possible court battle over the Fifth Amendment and a potential standoff with the Justice Department."
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Can you say "Dog and Pony Show"...?

Those vermin need to do something constructive, like drag her outside and hang her from a lamp-post?
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But is contempt something they are actually going to arrest anyone for, ever?
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they held the us attorney general in contempt and he laughed.

main things to come from this are:

1. these legislatures say somethings, enact laws, they make law
2. if obama, holder, this lady it means nothing

then

3. nothing they say or do does

its that simple
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Make no mistake folks. 95% of what congress does is create tax code. Say what you will about the various regulatory agencies, but they generally make the rest of the federal rules we are supposed to live under (EPA,FAA, NRC, DOE, etc.) Those folks do it based based on quasi academic principles that can be peer reviewed over time. Tort Law was largely finished 100 years ago, there is little new work to be done there, and if so, it is done by the state legislators.

Everyone on that committee, Democrat, Republican, the congress itself, and staffers, senior management at the IRS, are lawyers and political science types who are so worthless they would starve in the garden of Eden. Don't get to vested in any fruits of this soap opera.
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Make no mistake folks. 95% of what congress does is create tax code. Say what you will about the various regulatory agencies, but they generally make the rest of the federal rules we are supposed to live under (EPA,FAA, NRC, DOE, etc.) Those folks do it based based on quasi academic principles that can be peer reviewed over time. Tort Law was largely finished 100 years ago, there is little new work to be done there, and if so, it is done by the state legislators.

Everyone on that committee, Democrat, Republican, the congress itself, and staffers, senior management at the IRS, are lawyers and political science types who are so worthless they would starve in the garden of Eden. Don't get to vested in any fruits of this soap opera.
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I said in response to this question:

But is contempt something they are actually going to arrest anyone for, ever?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22918479


they held the us attorney general in contempt and he laughed.

main things to come from this are:

1. these legislatures say somethings, enact laws, they make law
2. if obama, holder, this lady it means nothing

then

3. nothing they say or do does

its that simple
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then this guy posts, hey go back to sleep. wtf!!!

Obama care, etc didnt come about because they were not enacting LAW.

The dudes response is pure shill.
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What a dumb bitch she is, she fucked up her right to plea the 5th when she said. " I plea the 5th, but I didn't do anything wrong " Classic dumb bitch
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She is simply following her orders of her boss and those above her. Most likely she has been threatened along with her family. So who really gave the orders?
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What a dumb bitch she is, she fucked up her right to plea the 5th when she said. " I plea the 5th, but I didn't do anything wrong " Classic dumb bitch
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She is simply following her orders of her boss and those above her. Most likely she has been threatened along with her family. So who really gave the orders?
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Arrest and put her in jail. Maybe she will sing.racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5
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But is contempt something they are actually going to arrest anyone for, ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22918479


they held the us attorney general in contempt and he laughed.

main things to come from this are:

1. these legislatures say somethings, enact laws, they make law
2. if obama, holder, this lady it means nothing

then

3. nothing they say or do does

its that simple
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56643827


therefore they mean nothing
so why is everyone allowing them there?
Is not this obvious?
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So far in this administration, no one had been arrested or fired , despite IRS corruption, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, vote fraud, ignoring the laws on immigration, ignoring the ACA law by endlessless "delays" and waivers, etc.

The corruption never gets STOPPED.
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Ohh there are arrests coming.. Many many arrests.. But it won't be who you think it is getting arrested..

cruise
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Guilty!

Hangman, do your duty...

:noose:
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What a dumb bitch she is, she fucked up her right to plea the 5th when she said. " I plea the 5th, but I didn't do anything wrong " Classic dumb bitch
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She is simply following her orders of her boss and those above her. Most likely she has been threatened along with her family. So who really gave the orders?
 Quoting: Bluebird 1902170


ohappy
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What a dumb bitch she is, she fucked up her right to plea the 5th when she said. " I plea the 5th, but I didn't do anything wrong " Classic dumb bitch
 Quoting: Man Bear Pig


She is simply following her orders of her boss and those above her. Most likely she has been threatened along with her family. So who really gave the orders?
 Quoting: Bluebird 1902170


Arrest and put her in jail. Maybe she will sing.racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5racist5
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Oh no. They only use the racism agenda for the sheeple to divide and conquer.
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Boehner can direct the sergeant at arms of the house to arrest and confine her.

HE IS A FUCKING COWARD, AND WILL NOT DO IT. HE SUPORTS THE ADMINISTRATION.
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21 for
12 against
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Excuse me I was wrong....

21 racist, bigoted KKK members voted for a crossburning

12 patriotic democracy loving angels voted to save Amerika
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Yes. You are wrong.

And apparently a bit delusional.
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sarcasm
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Yes thank you AC. If you couldn't smell the sarcasm....I can't help you.
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I believe that the contempt charge is then sent to a federal judge for a final ruling. If upheld, Congress would be in their right to have her arrested.

I'm not an attorney, but I think that is how it would go...
 Quoting: SaveUSa


"..The vote sets up a full debate on the House floor.."

[link to politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Thanks...I also thought that Issa mentioned that the contempt charge would also be ruled upon by a federal judge. Was that maybe what he expected to occur after the full House voted to hold her in contempt, and the Dems subsequently challenge?...or is that a part of the process? I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that he stated a Federal Judge would rule on this at some point.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


I think he was probably referring to:

"..possible court battle over the Fifth Amendment and a potential standoff with the Justice Department."
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Gotcha...that sounds more reasonable...Thanks
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I want to be a senator, that's awesome they still get recess.
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Now if we put em on Micheles lunch menu things will change quicker.
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Resolution Recommending that the House of Representatives Find Lois G. Lerner, Former Director, Exempt Organizations, Internal Revenue Service, In Contempt of Congress for Refusal to Comply With a Subpoena Duly Issued by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

[link to oversight.house.gov]

popcorn
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Throw her in jail and let her rot there until she answers the questions.
She gave up her 5th Amendment rights....effing fascist bitch!


jail
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But is contempt something they are actually going to arrest anyone for, ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22918479


They can bring it up to the DOJ for formal charges but if the DOJ doesnt act, I think there is a provision where they can still arrest her. I read about it on Drudge.
 Quoting: PlanBSurvival


Here it is...

"Among those tools is the House's “inherent contempt” authority under the Constitution, which was initially exercised in 1795 during the First Congress and on multiple occasions thereafter. Lerner could be held until January 2015 when a new Congress is seated, which could issue another subpoena and throw her in the clink again if she still balks at testifying."

Boehner can direct the sergeant at arms of the house to arrest and confine her.
 Quoting: PlanBSurvival


There is a minor problem here. Bohner.puke5
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Resolution Recommending that the House of Representatives Find Lois G. Lerner, Former Director, Exempt Organizations, Internal Revenue Service, In Contempt of Congress for Refusal to Comply With a Subpoena Duly Issued by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

[link to oversight.house.gov]

popcorn
 Quoting: PlanBSurvival


Throw her in jail and let her rot there until she answers the questions.
She gave up her 5th Amendment rights....effing fascist bitch!


:jail:
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Put her in Leavenworth!wtf 10
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But is contempt something they are actually going to arrest anyone for, ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22918479


They can bring it up to the DOJ for formal charges but if the DOJ doesnt act, I think there is a provision where they can still arrest her. I read about it on Drudge.
 Quoting: PlanBSurvival


Here it is...

"Among those tools is the House's “inherent contempt” authority under the Constitution, which was initially exercised in 1795 during the First Congress and on multiple occasions thereafter. Lerner could be held until January 2015 when a new Congress is seated, which could issue another subpoena and throw her in the clink again if she still balks at testifying."

Boehner can direct the sergeant at arms of the house to arrest and confine her.
 Quoting: PlanBSurvival


There is a minor problem here. Bohner.puke5
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Bone-head is on his way out now too.
People are tired of his sh*t.


House Conservatives Plot to Oust Boehner, Put Scare Into Cantor
One plan: Force the speaker to step aside before the new year.

[link to www.nationaljournal.com]


clappa
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Put her in Leavenworth!wtf 10
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Don't do that. She'd get assigned to my cell and I'd have to protect her. Not that I wouldn't for anybody, but other more deserving people still have good lives to live on the outside.
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The first black nixon
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The first black nixon
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They postponed the LBJ tribute start 'cause IsA hutichinson needed to freshen up after the IRS hearings. He was calm cool and collected to keynote.

LBJ declared war on poverty. And the band sang along.
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these people have contempt for contempt unless it applies to u and me...things have rely gone downhill





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