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(OP) User ID: 56895090 Portugal 04/16/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about this scenario I am going to give you. Remember guys when you were in love in high school? And there was this girl who you liked and she apparently started liking you too, but you are not sure! She would give you semi vague hints and so on. Now let’s say she usually eats with her friends in a bar that’s 10 minutes away from the school, and you usually eat in a bar that’s 5 mins away. And in a certain day she decides to eat in the same bar you normally eat. “Hmm, weird!”, you tell yourself. “It can’t be because of me, can it?” And on this day you notice that she also decided to wear some fancier clothes! :D A nice skirt, very cute and feminine. Then, later on that day, you see her in the hallway, and she “accidently” drops her books! Now what are the odds of that? Unless she wants you to help her pick up the books, hehe. You see, it’s romantic. So, my question is, what are the odds you would see all of these elements in just one day? She giving you hints, eating near you, dropping her books? It’s a big coincidence right? Unless she wants you to talk to her! Now apply this to this situation now… What are the odds of we seeing this conflict in Ukraine with Russia and USA on opposite sides, the Snowden spying controversy again with Russia and USA on opposite sides, the MH370 being lost with Iranians on board with fake/stolen passports, which hints at high jacked plane/terrorists on board, the North Korea crazy “purging’s”, the Syria controversy, lone gunmen such as Sandy Hook and London beheading... Ask yourself, where could this all go to? Logically, the USA/Russia conflicts, the North Korea/Syria conflicts, all may very well lead into Alliances being formed. And what is more, terrorists could well be the triggers (they will be said to be working with rogue governments). In the end, a war will break out… A new world order will have to be formed… Perhaps something that will stop these so called terrorists or lone gunman, since the NSA spying has not worked, will have to be implemented… Something like RFID microchips. The new world order also in some respects may have to be a little less obvious- green energies (Live in peace with nature as Georgia guidestones says) for a little compensation so people don’t think “could have we been 100% fooled?)”. Don’t you see? My point is this, what are the odds of we seeing all these pieces on the board now, and these pieces on the board can very well lead us to a outcome that just happens to be exactly the outcome that the Powers that be want? These situations help to push forth their agendas. What are the odds? Are they this lucky? Or, unless of course it’s the powers that be who are staging these crisis in the first place. Order out of chaos right? Or as Hillary Clinton says, never waste a good crisis. Just like the situation where the Girl lets her books down so you help her out. All these coincidences surrounding that day, she happening to eat near you, wearing prettier clothes, just all happened to lead into the outcome she wanted: you talking to her! You take the hint and so you talk to her indeed and all is happy, it’s what you wanted to as well. Compare this to the situation we are seeing now. All these pieces are on the board and they just happen to lead to the NWO. What are the odds, I ask again, unless this is all staged to lead us into the New World Order, just like the girl “staged” these “coincidences” to get you to talk to her? Except that the difference in this Ukraine situation is that, this game is being played on Humanity and we are not connecting the dots at all. We think it’s not staged and we don’t know where we are going. And another key difference is that the outcome is not positive for us as in that girl example I gave. This thread talks about the exact same thing I did: Thread: The NWO Agenda, Terror Related Incidents and An Imminent Global Transformation Well, I hope I have helped you to see the situation better! :D Hehe, thanks if you read this far. More in this in a while. |
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User ID: 56927738 United States 04/16/2014 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you that both sides are in the same family and we are not part of it. I thought about this the last few weeks. I found that Russia does indeed use Chemtrails and that is all I needed to know to determine both countries are trying to control their people along with EMF waves from Cell Phone towers and every other electronic device that everyone seems to have with them. Not sure if Russia has GMO foods but I would not doubt it. They know that something is causing humans to vibrate at a higher frequency and they need to keep us dumbed down. Some say the earth is resonating higher therefore people will also. If they lose control of the people they will no longer be able to rule as they once did because people will not be as gullible and dependent. I feel the Sun is causing this shift and that is why they use chemtails to block the Sun. Peace to you and everyone. We do not need to fight in this world. Peace Last Edited by Learningtofly on 04/16/2014 04:11 PM Learningtofly |
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User ID: 56931364 United Kingdom 04/16/2014 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thread OP. Its interesting to see the pieces coming together to paint the picture of what we long expected. I know that many don't like Obama but most people only need to look at the coat of arms of Russia for them to see the allegiance of Putin and who they are siding with. Either side are the same. I do hope people wake up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33900401 United States 04/16/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thing that keeps coming back to me in all of any thing to do with this whole Russia is the following: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Mr. Obama could be heard saying to Mr. Medvedev, according a reporter from ABC News, who was traveling with the president. “Yeah, I understand,” the departing Russian president said. “I understand your message about space. Space for you ... .” Mr. Obama then elaborated in a portion of the exchange picked up by the cameras: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.” “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Mr. Medvedev said, referring to Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin, who just won an election to succeed Mr. Medvedev. Does anyone remember that Obama shut down our missile defense system? This is the fucking most corrupt POS who has ever served as a president and if he were in my face, i would fucking spit on him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56165770 United States 04/16/2014 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about this scenario I am going to give you. Quoting: GreenishAndCoolish Remember guys when you were in love in high school? And there was this girl who you liked and she apparently started liking you too, but you are not sure! She would give you semi vague hints and so on. Now let’s say she usually eats with her friends in a bar that’s 10 minutes away from the school, and you usually eat in a bar that’s 5 mins away. And in a certain day she decides to eat in the same bar you normally eat. “Hmm, weird!”, you tell yourself. “It can’t be because of me, can it?” And on this day you notice that she also decided to wear some fancier clothes! :D A nice skirt, very cute and feminine. Then, later on that day, you see her in the hallway, and she “accidently” drops her books! Now what are the odds of that? Unless she wants you to help her pick up the books, hehe. You see, it’s romantic. So, my question is, what are the odds you would see all of these elements in just one day? She giving you hints, eating near you, dropping her books? It’s a big coincidence right? Unless she wants you to talk to her! Now apply this to this situation now… What are the odds of we seeing this conflict in Ukraine with Russia and USA on opposite sides, the Snowden spying controversy again with Russia and USA on opposite sides, the MH370 being lost with Iranians on board with fake/stolen passports, which hints at high jacked plane/terrorists on board, the North Korea crazy “purging’s”, the Syria controversy, lone gunmen such as Sandy Hook and London beheading... Ask yourself, where could this all go to? Logically, the USA/Russia conflicts, the North Korea/Syria conflicts, all may very well lead into Alliances being formed. And what is more, terrorists could well be the triggers (they will be said to be working with rogue governments). In the end, a war will break out… A new world order will have to be formed… Perhaps something that will stop these so called terrorists or lone gunman, since the NSA spying has not worked, will have to be implemented… Something like RFID microchips. The new world order also in some respects may have to be a little less obvious- green energies (Live in peace with nature as Georgia guidestones says) for a little compensation so people don’t think “could have we been 100% fooled?)”. Don’t you see? My point is this, what are the odds of we seeing all these pieces on the board now, and these pieces on the board can very well lead us to a outcome that just happens to be exactly the outcome that the Powers that be want? These situations help to push forth their agendas. What are the odds? Are they this lucky? Or, unless of course it’s the powers that be who are staging these crisis in the first place. Order out of chaos right? Or as Hillary Clinton says, never waste a good crisis. Just like the situation where the Girl lets her books down so you help her out. All these coincidences surrounding that day, she happening to eat near you, wearing prettier clothes, just all happened to lead into the outcome she wanted: you talking to her! You take the hint and so you talk to her indeed and all is happy, it’s what you wanted to as well. Compare this to the situation we are seeing now. All these pieces are on the board and they just happen to lead to the NWO. What are the odds, I ask again, unless this is all staged to lead us into the New World Order, just like the girl “staged” these “coincidences” to get you to talk to her? Except that the difference in this Ukraine situation is that, this game is being played on Humanity and we are not connecting the dots at all. We think it’s not staged and we don’t know where we are going. And another key difference is that the outcome is not positive for us as in that girl example I gave. This thread talks about the exact same thing I did: Thread: The NWO Agenda, Terror Related Incidents and An Imminent Global Transformation Well, I hope I have helped you to see the situation better! :D Hehe, thanks if you read this far. More in this in a while. Manipulate. Yes. You could have replaced that entire drivel with "Russia is trying to manipulate the U.S) |
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(OP) User ID: 56895090 Portugal 04/17/2014 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread OP, Quoting: Learningtofly I agree with you that both sides are in the same family and we are not part of it. I thought about this the last few weeks. I found that Russia does indeed use Chemtrails and that is all I needed to know to determine both countries are trying to control their people along with EMF waves from Cell Phone towers and every other electronic device that everyone seems to have with them. Not sure if Russia has GMO foods but I would not doubt it. They know that something is causing humans to vibrate at a higher frequency and they need to keep us dumbed down. Some say the earth is resonating higher therefore people will also. If they lose control of the people they will no longer be able to rule as they once did because people will not be as gullible and dependent. I feel the Sun is causing this shift and that is why they use chemtails to block the Sun. Peace to you and everyone. We do not need to fight in this world. Peace Kudos to you man! I didn’t think I’d get a reply of such caliber. You must be a unique person, I feel that you have reached a high level. You prove that there is indeed a peace keeping family out here and we are starting to awaken! You set the ball rolling with the things you talked about. I was going to get into these same topics now, but you know what, you spared me the trouble. Your reply is just what the thread needed. Maybe later on we will talk more about what you said, but so far so good! :D Thanks for the contribuition! :D See you later GLP, thanks all for reading. |
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(OP) User ID: 56895090 Portugal 04/17/2014 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone remember that Obama shut down our missile defense system? This is the fucking most corrupt POS who has ever served as a president Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33900401 Thanks for the interesting question you have raised. Let me get it straight. So, you are mentioning that around last year, Obama shut down a part of the southern missile defense system, which was criticized by people, who said that it would potentially make that part of the border weak, right? Is that it? I didn’t quite get how the other part ties in, unless you are suggesting that he sells out the US to Putin? Anyway, my thoughts on this are: Remember that this is a war on consciousness. Psychology is involved behind everything, especially big topics. One major topic that people discuss is this stereotype- quite popular on the internet, including GLP- that Putin is strong/manly and Obama is weak and indecisive. Some may even go as far to say that Putin will be the one to save everybody from the bankers that run America- a point I have disagreed with in the OP, when I argued that they are two sides of the same coin, buddies, apart from this act they are playing. This missile shutdown along with the intercepted talks seems to me that it makes Obama look weak and Putin look strong, so let me address this topic first. So let’s go. Now my question is this: If Obama is a puppet for the bankers, don’t you think that they foresaw that the public would think of him as unmanly? After all, it is a important topic nowadays. Maybe, just maybe they even were the ones to plant this very idea in our minds and run them around on main stream media- sometimes subliminally, of course… For example when they said Michelle was about to divorce him- Ohwell told me that the idea being conveyed was that he can’t even please his own wife, let alone a entire nation. Or else, the other side is the argument is that they are this stupid to pick a puppet who people would perceive as weak? Think about it. They, with all of the money one could possibly dream of, could have picked anyone in the world. A lot of fit actors are illuminati. A lot of bodybuilders, even, are illuminati. Some are literally all three: Schwarzenegger for instance, who is obviously a plant. He got to be ALL THREE THINGS: actor, bodybuilder AND governor, right? He is perceived as strong, generally! Even if the shadow government made an error, and picked someone who turned out to be unpopular due to his weakness, they could have fixed this easily! First, make him physically stronger: After all, they have a lot of elite knowledge on the human body. They could have given him a powerful diet, amazing herbal elixirs, or make him go to top personal trainers to make him very strong. And, the media! The media can make people believe he is strong. Just show him training a bit of boxing and so on. So in my opinion, they WANTED someone who is perceived as weak. And they WANTED someone like Putin on the other side, someone who acts “manlier”. They designed all of this! Let us not be as naive as to think otherwise. Now, WHY is this so? Remember, like I have said, for a war to happen, you need two sides right? Doesn’t this make the contrast stronger? It also adds depth to the situation, and gives people things to talk about: the more attention, the more potential there is for emotions to be aroused. If the PTB can arouse strong emotions, like in 911, they are more likely make people want to wage war on each other. Also, Ohwell said that calling him weak is like taunting him- he is the supposed leader of one of the most powerful militaries in the world after all. Another point is that, should he one day do something “strong”, the attention to this action will be greater than if he were neutral, so emotions run even higher. I am not exactly sure how it goes together- there is more to cover- but you get the point, it’s a useful thing for the masters behind the scenes to have this contrast. Now the missile thing. Apart from the manly-weak agenda… Well, I ask if they are buddies then what difference does it make? Possibly ALL of the nations are friends, none excluded. So they know no one is going to get attacked, no one will attack anybody. I also speculate that maybe this is a psy-op to make America look weak? So that in the future, maybe the masses, in fear, will be more likely to call for action themselves? It seems to me that this is more fuel to the fire. Maybe when a FF happens in US soil, it will help to add to make two sides like I mentioned above. This FF may be blamed on terrorists in connection with Russia. Some, the “patriots”, will place the blame on Russia, for harboring snowden- who’s leaks, it will be said, are to blame for PRISM failing. Others, however, will put the blame on Obama and USA- they will say Obama was an incompetent leader all along, and this was unavoidable. These shall likely side with Russia instead. Ohwell said that there would be a Catch-22 (This saying derives from a novel, one of the characters is even called Snowden) where the minds of the people who believe this charade the PTB have staged will see no escape. Either you will support Russia and be called unpatriotic or extremist, or you will support USA, in which case the solution will be to wage war on Russia. Supporting either side is a lose-lose situation and only the new world order stands to benefit from this game. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56906558 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course. You don't bet to be leader of any country without PTB. But PTB have factions within them also. they kove playing both sides against the sheep. sither way they always win. cheering for Putin or Obama no different then cheering for repub or democrat. all the same in the end and sheep get slaughtered. |
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