If you were worried by the Large Hadron Collider, prepare yourself for a shock, Monster machine, black holes, strangelets, CERN LHC

This is a picture of the huge ATLAS particle detector in the LHC at CERN

[link to web.hep.uiuc.edu]

Its job is to record the collisions of protons moving at close to the speed of light. It weighs 7000 tonnes and its diameter is 25m ( 80 feet ).

On an isolated plain in Argentina, far from curious media and tourists is the detector for the worlds most powerful proton collisions. The detector of the PAO has a diameter of 70km ( 45 miles ) and an area of 3,000km squared, the size of Rhode Island.

[link to www.lip.pt]

As you might imagine the PAO is going to detect collisions with more energy than the LHC can produce, but how much more. 10 times the power? How about 100 times? The PAO is designed to record collisions up to 40,000,000 times the power of the LHC, that's 300,000,000,000 GeV. If the LHC protons have the energy of a mosquito in flight, the PAO protons have the energy of a baseball at 90kph ( 60mph ).

The LHC is buried up to 175m ( 500 feet ) underground and has numerous safety features like beam dumps

[link to www.symmetrymagazine.org]

and yet they have already had one serious explosion.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

How fall below ground do you suppose the PAO is buried? Well it conducts all its experiments out in the open air. So the question is, are these bearded, tie dyed scientists mad?, evil? or do they know something important about doomsday collisions?

[link to www.auger.org]

You know, some time ago, i ran across a person with an interesting theory on this. I shall look for it again.

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 07:17 PM

Thanks, that would be good if you could tell us about it.

The interesting thing about the collider doomsday scenarios is that they have not been initiated by fringe figures but absolute establishment scientists like Professor Frank Close at Oxford University.

wow... i had no idea...

where exactly in argentina?

"And now I am the destroyer of worlds." Shiva

It's in a pretty remote area, in the foothills of the Andes.

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

I don't think you can get an idea of the scale of it, except from the air.

[link to crop.unl.edu]

There are thousands of detectors like this one stretching all the way to the mountains !!!

Yes, Robert Oppenheimer is supposed to have thought that, when he witnessed the first nuclear bomb test.

"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

That really was a science doom invention.

Wow! Ok this is crazy..... Ya know that person I talked to? All their links were dead, so I did a search via google. And guess what i found?

They are a published scientist in Nexis magazine!

Do you all want me to see if I can get a hold of him again? His theories amazed me! Well no wonder!

Anyways he is a member at another site i belong to after I asked him to join me in discussions. But that sites private messages don't give email notification, so he may never know.... But maybe i can find him another way.

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 10:03 PM

Can you share some of his theories in the meantime?

WTF are they after?

These have got to be some of the most expensive projects EVER.
For ANYTHING.

Very important people are trying to do something.

Actually I can do better than that. Read page 49 at this link. I just wish Tom didn't delete his youtube videos and illustrations. Drats!


[link to www.electronicsandbooks.com]

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 07:35 PM

Yes, I'm intrigued by what he has to say. I am trying to follow that book link you gave in another post but it's not loading for me at the moment :(

Yeah, but the PAO is just an observatory. It detects cosmi particles passing through interacting with Earth, it doesn't actually create them or accelerate them at all. So there's no greater risk of anything untoward happening than there would be if it didn't exist.

To try and explain his theory somewhat... When the collider goes off, that very same spot in the future develops a sink hole from the black hole it generates. ( Remember, the earth moves... ) He matches everything up perfectly with the collider dates along with the formation of sink holes

The illustrations and videos made total sense, but everything is gone!

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 07:40 PM

So the secret of doomsday collisions is.....

And there's a statue of Shiva outside of CERN...with an experiment with the collider named ATLAS.

...That more energetic collision than those produced by the LHC occur in the atmosphere every day, and the chances of anything scary happening as a result is vanishingly small?

Pretty much, although there is a question about strangelets from cosmic rays having had time to decay to their ground state during their immense journeys from other galaxies, which collider produced ones would not have.

Here is the link again in case something went wrong last time. Now i am all worried about a conspiracy to cover this up since all his stuff is missing. I will email him tonight.

[link to www.electronicsandbooks.com]

Thanks, I managed to open it in the end. It has that terrifying sink hole in Guatemala in it. I remember a program, it may have been the original Cosmos when the presenter ( Sagan ? ) talked about what would happen if you dropped a small ball of neutron star material from hand height. It would punch a series of holes through the Earth as it oscillated back and forth through the centre of the Earth, leaving it like a "Swiss Cheese".

Well he managed to match up many sink holes.

He did two Nexus articles. This is the other one which I need to get a hold of. The previous link that I provided was the second.

"EARTH PRECESSION AND MICRO BLACK HOLES
By Olaf Thomas Raabe. There is a link between a series of unexplained explosions, the Earth's precessional orbit and the inadvertent creation of micro black holes at the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva, Switzerland."

Plus you may be interested in this. To quote Tom:


"The diagrams show a very odd connection between 20 very powerful but unexplained explosions and "precession intersection areas". The latter relates to Einsteinian precession, which explains how Earth's orbit varies in relation to the Sun. The result is a pattern of intersections which is quite distinct and which I have tried to further explain in the 2nd diagram. This is necessary because even Wikipedia only has a very rough diagram of these intersection areas which is not correct. It appears that nobody has bothered to investigate these more thoroughly because it is believed that they are of no importance.

All 20 explosions fit the precession intersection pattern exactly. Because precession is directly related to the passage of time, this would appear to imply that there is a temporal link. Further research I have conducted links not only the positions in orbit to the precession intersection areas, but the events to actual sites which appear to be related to them. These sites are surprisingly less often the LHC, but appear to relate to SLAC and the ILC (yes, I know, of course it hasn't even been built yet... But if we are looking at temporal phenomena, we would be seeing the events, because it will be built.) "

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 08:30 PM

This one was done on the cheap, well relatively speaking, at $50 million. They are trying to find out what is making these rare ultra high energy particles that seem to come from the hearts of other galaxies, they are still a mystery.

Yeah, that's kind of ominous.

[link to www.redicecreations.com]

There was a Shiva dance statue that featured prominently in the Cosmos episode "The edge of forever" I didn't know what it was till just now, thanks for putting me on to it.

That sounds like he has done a lot of calculating, complex stuff! One the subject of black holes and Hawking radiation, it has never been observed so it is possible that Hawking radiation does not exist and black holes do not evaporate, although that would have a number of consequences. On the plus side there would be no more black hole information paradox.

Is Tom's other article also in Nexus?

Yep, there it is. I am all done for the evening, thanks for your contributions Elouina.

This is a diagram of one of these ultra high energy events creating an "air shower" of exotic matter, including antimatter, being picked up by the detectors.

[link to www.aspera-eu.org]

I really loved his visuals. I will email him later tonight to see if he can send them to me. I am not at home right now so discussing this intense subject is a tad difficult. But his theory actually does make a lot of sense when you see the visuals.

Oh and I was aware of the upgraded collider and it worries me.

Last Edited by Elouina on 04/19/2014 09:32 PM

PAO is just water tanks....how is that dangerous ?

Kind of reminds me of the TNG episode I watched last night. With Wesley's 'experiment'.
'Remember Me'.

So, just thinking here...but if on pg 50 as the author states that there could be a growing black hole(s) inside earth...if this were the case, eventually it would be big enough that the mass of earth would be altered right? I mean, in regards to planetary objects surrounding us...wouldn't that lead to more earthquakes due to changes in orbital pulls, and eventually lead something to slowly move toward our planet, and if everything doesn't sink into the black hole before then, crash some other planetary body into us or wind up with us being the center of the solar system instead of the sun?

I know absolutely nothing about this stuff, so I'm just curious on thoughts regarding this...I wish I could outright see the diagrams and hear this person discussing this. If anyone finds other legit youtube posts about this, I'd be highly interested in watching those videos.

Also, interesting lots of places have heard loud noises recently and felt rumbling?

On my way out the door for home, but I wanted to share this. Want to hear what a black hole sounds like? Does this sound familiar? Anyways I got to run...