Time.

Absolutelly! You should try lucid dreaming!

I have never even attempted lucid dreaming, although I know a little about it from talking to others about it. I'm not really sure I would be able to, since I very rarely remember any of my dreams and this has been so since my childhood.

Time as we see it only exists on this planet, another planet that has a longer/shorter revolution around its sun and a faster/slower spin on its axis, would certainty have a different perception of time than we see it.

General relativity.

Sure, that says that time is equal if the forces are the same.

The possibility of another planet spinning and rotating around the sun at the exact same speed as ours is highly unlikely.

Math suggest the opposite, taking in count an infinite number of superpositioned universes.

The point is, another planet with a different rotation around its sun/axis spin will have a different perception of time.

If it spins on its axis faster, it may only have a 23 hour day, which will produce a totally different perception of time.

In other words, time as we know it and set our clocks to, only exists on this planet, it's different every where else. Unless there is an exact twin of the Earth out there.

If the Universe died then time may exist to an observing universe that didnt know they was observing and un-aware of any time at all by being unconcious. The sound may wake them up and be the first thing they heard before their local star set for the first night. Maybe all they would have lost by a universe dying would be one of the senses. It would probably be a mistake or a deliberate attempt for counciousness to record maths there and build artificial intelligence in the future. I hope you can hear me now

Remember the time when we existed without a body to communicate the time when everything changed and it were just conciousness alone. That is when time exists, in one sense.

True - we model the universe (and multiverses) mathematically and the very existence of the concept of infinity in mathematics must imply that all possibilities must exist within infinite space.

Very interesting. That loosely ties in with quantum mechanics with regard to observation. It also loosely ties in with the consciousness ideas with the paper and Orch OR theory I am currently reading mentioned on the previous page.

How can time be linear when an absolute straight line does not exist?

Time is fractal;

A perfect circle does not exist.

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When you draw/write a picture/word the ink/lead leaves a residue on the paper, let's say a photon high, so truly nothing is 2 dimensional.

That's the type of thinking that its definetelly not useful to understand our universe. Thinking binary logic, is just not enough. "If this, than that" is binary thinking. In GLP we see thousands of threads to question things using binary logic to try to explain very complex concepts, such as God, life and universe. "If God is this, than why not we that". This is not enough. You can't apply human binary logic to it, take the above mentioned double slit experiment, it breaks this logic appart. "If throwing particles through a double slited surface, than its impossible to have many marks behind". But its not what happens. We know that its because particles behave both as waves and particles, depending on if they are been seen or not. And that's illogical. Using human logic: "if I throw a brick on the wall, there will be a mark. But if I don't see the brick, there will be many marks". Particles are tiny bits of matter, in other words, physical as the brick is. Why a macrophysical object behave in one way, but as we get closer to the quantum scale, things are not the same? The answer is simple, but most of us humans won't accept it, because our brain is unable to compute this logic: Because the universe is directly attached to the one observing it. Einstein was 120% right on that. Interaction, or observation, is enough to alter the universe around us. The simple fact of thinking about it, is an interaction already, as shown in the scientific paper in a previous post. It may lead to many questions, some even very interesting and intriguing, but the vast majority won't think of the one that should be the first: "How powerfull, wise and advanced is needed to be to create all the universe around us?". I must take care where I share these things, because most of the people are just not ready to understand this new knowledge. I'm often called "demon", "demon slave" and many other things, because what I'm saying is God is way beyond human understanding and thus, questioning. And things get worst when I bring freewill to the table, which is also linked to the universe around us, but this is another story. The thing is, there will never be any proof of God, but then again, you existing is already proof enough. Think about it. Our simple thought of something, alters a physical experiment. It means that whatever we think and decide, alters the universe around us at some level. By thinking very hard, with great determination, alters even more. This is what we know as faith. And the act of thinking of it, is called pray. In a very determined pray, things happen in such a way that the result of the chain of interactions in the universe, will lead to the desired result. But sometimes it doesn't and why is that? Because besides there are others also thinking(praying) with great determination, God seeks to make the best to each and one of us. He's got the last word and He can see beyond our choices, this is why sometimes prayers are not "answered", simple because it was not meant to be. I'm expecting after typing all this, some many questions using binary logic, maybe some mockering, but I'm ok with that, because if what I said now, didn't helped you to "lift your veil", its because it was not meant to be. So, I may troll the ones using binary human logic to question the universe, thus, my nickname.

Thinking twice is repentance :-)

To change ones mind.

It is said to have universe altering effects.

Thread: Reality

would there be a calender if the earth did not revolve around the sun and we did not have day/night or seasons

HBO 8 hour series...true detective...

Very well said.

Good question. If we couldn't have some form of reference in order to segment time, then how could we measure it? I suppose we'd have to develop a way of being able to sense how much time has gone by without the means of a time piece like they do in pilot training I think.

Thanks I'll have to look out for that one - looks very interesting.

Nice - chilled out and the words are good with the subject of time. :)

Simply,

Time is the rate of the decay of matter.

Elaborate

That's correct and you can also say that the decay of matter implies there's evidence for the existence of time. Also, like O said with regard to the calendar - the decay of Carbon14 for example in dating is a means for measuring time.

Time is the rate that matter decays.
If there was no decay what would be time in context, but eternity.

Another question arises, taking the calendar example of 0 a step further and also MaybeTrollingU's example - if we have a universe and then we take everything away from this universe so that it is devoid of all matter a vacuum universe if you will - would time still exist if you were in the centre of that universe without any frames of reference with which to even measure time?

Naturally, as an observer outside of this universe using our parameters on Earth we could argue that time exists as we look at it from our viewpoint, but if you were an observer inside that universe, time could not be measured therefore could it exist without a framework with which to measure it? I suppose it goes back to the observations we see in quantum mechanics and it is all related.