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0verpopulation Crisis - Baby Boom - Big Bang

 
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in the matrix
smith says ... humans just breed till they destroy their surroundings ...

then he says .... there's only one other species that does that ... A VIRUS.


Morpheus tells neo that the red pill is a tracking device
trinity says of Morpheus '' he set us free''



then they live is old sewage tunnels.
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true

ps dont take pills
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in the matrix
smith says ... humans just breed till they destroy their surroundings ...

then he says .... there's only one other species that does that ... A VIRUS.


Morpheus tells neo that the red pill is a tracking device
trinity says of Morpheus '' he set us free''



then they live is old sewage tunnels.


smith is a take on smithsonian
btw
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in the matrix
smith says ... humans just breed till they destroy their surroundings ...

then he says .... there's only one other species that does that ... A VIRUS.


Morpheus tells neo that the red pill is a tracking device
trinity says of Morpheus '' he set us free''



then they live is old sewage tunnels.


smith is a take on smithsonian
btw
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USA made a museum yoday for THE BIBLE

an archeaic old piece of paper.
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Overpopulation - Why The Maya Fell



The basic scientific truth and physical reality about life is that everything consumes energy and discharges waste ... one scientist likened humnas to a bacterium in a petri dish ... the dish representing the limited space and resources on eartrh the stratum [glucose] representing the resources ... the bacterium eats all the glucose until its gone and then it dies, once it dead another organsim comes [mould] to eat the dead bateria.

Most texts on archeology state clearly, with insurmountable evidence, that the reason for the downfall of all the major civilizations on earth was “overpopulation”. The result of overpopulation is pollution ... water-pollution, ground-pollution, air-pollution, .... noise-pollution; including; radio-frequency, sonar-frequency, thought-wave frequency, .... neon-light pollution, and space polluting which now reaches into heaven itself ...

One of the travesties of this earth's demise is light pollution ...
peoples minds need to understand how important the night sky
is to our development as spiritual beings ... shamans and Christ alike told of us the importance of the night sky and star-gazing ... Christ said when the end comes we must watch the sky because from there will come our salvation.

The overpopulation of the earth is the planet's single greatest threat to specie survival, and reducing human-population would solve many of the problems that so many attempt to solve without acknowledging the underlying cause of all the worlds ills. A study of a computer-model of the globe (done at M.I.T.) reveals that the maximum occupancy of the planet is 3.1 billion. The population will soon reach 8 billion, that is the problem. This study examined how much "inhabitable land is available for human development .... inhabitable lands means excluding polar regions, mountain-tops, deserts, and any other land "not inhabitable" by humans, while leaving room for all other species of life on earth ... many of these species requiring vast tracks of land to survive as did the buffalo which were exterminated to make way for agriculture. We need to be aware that at least 2/3rds of lands inhabitable to man need to be set aside for wildlife to survive.

Accordingly the social impact of overpopulation it seems is perhaps that as (human) population increases the value of life goes down, and social ills, violence, and abuses increase.
When people had to walk 5 miles to their nearest neighbor weren't they more appreciative when they got there after risking life and limb in a snowstorm to make it?
Historically War, Pandemic, or "Soy-lent Green" (Cannibalism) is where over-population leads ...... There seems no other way out, except not to go there in the first place ... "preventative medicine".

The pictures of animals stacked together in cages like sardines are disgusting! The physical torture and abuse ... Do people realize that this is a reflection of "US" ? .............. We are also animals staked together like sardines in urbanized high-rise settings ... the condition of factory-raised animals is only a symptom of our own condition.
Still worse (in my mind) than the ill-treatment of domestic-animals is the extermination of "wild" species as human population swells removing habitat needed for their survival. Archeology teaches us that overpopulation has been the doom of every civilization which preceded this one, for me this is the most powerful truth,.

If we are all ONE being ... and those animals stuffed together in cages represent US in our high-rise apartments, condos and townhouses. In Canada the population issue is almost invisible, being the most sparsely populated country on earth, but dare to step out into the world and it's just like those animal cages. In Mexico drinking water wells are often dug only 5 feet from sewage tanks due to the proximity limitations of property lines.


I invite the world to do the math (as I did) … only 2 people on earth turns into 2.1 Billion after only 20 cycles of procreation, at 8 children per family.
2 x 8 = 16 ...... 8 male 8 female, ..... 8x8= 64 ... 32 x8 = Etc. = 17 billion in as little as 400 years.
I chose the number 8 realizing this is a middle number as many families in developing nations (without contraception) have up to 14 children. In 21 cycles the number is almost 17 billion. This can take as little as 400 years without contraception.
My grandmother had 13 children, when asked why she had so many, she answered, "I didn't know how to stop". Contraception was illegal (in Canada too) until very recently.
30 million people in Mexico City, the entire population of Canada .... take all the people stacked on top of one another and spread them out FLAT on the land and one source (of pop-stats) claims that (in 1994) there was less than one square foot of inhabitable land per person.
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The instinct to procreate needs to tempered with the intelligence to control population.

In the book of Enoch, Enoch states that the reason the world needed to be destroyed with a Biblical "FLOOD" is not too much "EVIL" but rather too many people (OVERPOPULATION), he says there was no room left on earth for the wild animals. Sumerian tablets give the same reason for global destruction; saying that population became so great that the Gods could no longer sleep due to the noise of mankind. An echo of our present day situation. Jesus said that the days would come when people would say "BLESSED ARE THOSE WOMEN WHO NEVER GAVE BIRTH" (Mat. 24:19, Luke 21:23). It is most likely that Christ was also referring to OVERPOPULATION when he said this.

To some extent industry has actually HELPED the earth support such massive populations as we have today ... making available materials for building upwards instead of horizontally ... the industrial mining of steel and metals, & the excavation of rock for concrete have made it possible to stack people on top of each other rather than spread out upon the earth as it would be with natural materials like wood, which would quickly deforest the entire earth to support a population like today's.

Vegetarians claim that if everyone (8 billion) were vegan it would create more land for agriculture because of all the land needed for livestock feed ... they do not say where to put all the displaced animals which are part of the creator's extended being and (I believe ) integral to our own fulfillment.
More over much of the data they present seems erroneous in many other ways as well ... the very "factory" farms they complain about are NOT taking up MORE land .... but less, much of the feed which animals are fed with is not desirable for human consumption and would be discarded as waste if not fed to animals ... this is especially true in undeveloped countries where the ONLY feed these animals get is what we call garbage ... if the hunter-gatherers that are left in countries like Africa converted to Veganism they would have to deforest more jungle to grow crops just as white people exterminated buffalo to grow wheat on the prairie plains .... more species would be driven to extermination.


Some New Age Spiritualists claim that this industrial Society is toxic .... yet any overpopulated society creates toxic waste, a mountain of excrement is as toxic as a mountain of lead, moreover the natural world has many toxic dangers .... tribes which lived in areas with high lead content in the soil had high birth-defect rates ... many plants contain the same cyanides which factories emit ... mercury, strychnine, a multitude of organic medicinal plants containing many potential poisons, volcanoes (like Krakatoa 1883) which emit more toxic gasses (same as industrial types) than an industrial society can in many decades, same with forest fires, and a myriad of other natural sources of pollution .... which can easily far outweigh any industrial society, the one thing these disasters do is to control human population.

Two "New Age" friends of mine said they don’t contribute to the world’s evils cause they use wood stoves instead of being on the power grid ...
yet all the data sources I have encountered (David Suzuki as well, I believe) all say that the #1 source of toxic air pollution is wood burning for heat and cooking this constitutes (remembering ,,,,,,) about 60% of all air pollutants and contain the worst toxic elements Creosote, Sulphuric/Di-Sulphuric Acids, Cyanides, Etc.
So these wood burners are not part of the solution statistically they are part of the worst cause of the problem, hydro-electricity is CLEAN energy and Canada is blessed with an abundance of it.

I often think that perhaps the best way to ensure specie survival of earth's animals would've been to reduce human population to less than 3 billion by the year 1950. Preserving and studying Mayan Codices when America was discovered rather than destroying them (gold Leaves melted down by Vatican) would’ve given this world a better chance a realizing what needed to be done, in time to do it.

About 1981 I was in Palenque during a conference called “La Mesa Redunda” a meeting of archeologists/anthropologists working on the Maya culture, during which a revelation hit everyone, the US government has released aerial photos of the whole Yucatan/Chiapas area taken with new technology which can see right through jungle foliage and through a certain amount of soil as well.
The pictures shoed ruins everywhere, not just around temple areas but everywhere from the edge of the mountain range all the way to the coast, it was one big city. Overpopulated to the max. a city which dwarfs the Los Angeles megalopolis by far. This to me was reproof that overpopulation was the major cause of their demise, later I also found evidence of severe climate change around the same time. So famine resulting from population and crop failures were the likely cause of their fall.
Before this I had been suspicious that the white man’s genocide was the cause, but now I lean more towards the cause being the same dilemma humanity faces today … too many people.


Overpopulation = Deforestation = Animal habitat Loss = Climate Change =
Alternative Nuclear Power, = Ozone Depletion = Increased Solar Radiation =
Increased Climate Changes = DNA Damage = Factory Farmimg of Humans =
Factory Farmimg of Animals to Feed Humans =
Humans squeezed in Sardine Cans = Increased Stress & Conflict = Increased wars for resources =

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NASA - The Fall of the Maya: "They Did it to Themselves"

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October 6, 2009: For 1200 years, the Maya dominated Central America. At their peak around 900 A.D., Maya cities teemed with more than 2,000 people per square mile -- comparable to modern Los Angeles County. Even in rural areas the Maya numbered 200 to 400 people per square mile. But suddenly, all was quiet. And the profound silence testified to one of the greatest demographic disasters in human prehistory -- the demise of the once vibrant Maya society.

What happened? Some NASA-funded researchers think they have a pretty good idea. "They did it to themselves," says veteran archeologist Tom Sever.

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Mayan ruins in Guatemala. Photo copyright Tom Sever.

"The Maya are often depicted as people who lived in complete harmony with their environment,' says PhD student Robert Griffin. "But like many other cultures before and after them, they ended up deforesting and destroying their landscape in efforts to eke out a living in hard times."

A major drought occurred about the time the Maya began to disappear. And at the time of their collapse, the Maya had cut down most of the trees across large swaths of the land to clear fields for growing corn to feed their burgeoning population. They also cut trees for firewood and for making building materials.

"They had to burn 20 trees to heat the limestone for making just 1 square meter of the lime plaster they used to build their tremendous temples, reservoirs, and monuments," explains Sever.

He and his team used computer simulations to reconstruct how the deforestation could have played a role in worsening the drought. They isolated the effects of deforestation using a pair of proven computer climate models: the PSU/NCAR mesoscale atmospheric circulation model, known as MM5, and the Community Climate System Model, or CCSM.

"We modeled the worst and best case scenarios: 100 percent deforestation in the Maya area and no deforestation," says Sever. "The results were eye opening. Loss of all the trees caused a 3-5 degree rise in temperature and a 20-30 percent decrease in rainfall."

The results are telling, but more research is needed to completely explain the mechanisms of Mayan decline. Archeological records reveal that while some Maya city-states did fall during drought periods, some survived and even thrived.

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Above: Deep in the Guatemalan jungle, Sever and Griffin study a crumbled "stele," a stone pyramid used by the Maya to record information or display ornately carved art. Sever and Griffin found the stele and other ruins hidden for more than 1,000 years during an expedition that relied on NASA remote-sensing technologies to pinpoint sites of ancient settlements. (NASA/T. Sever)

"We believe that drought was realized differently in different areas," explains Griffin. "We propose that increases in temperature and decreases in rainfall brought on by localized deforestation caused serious enough problems to push some but not all city-states over the edge."

The Maya deforested through the use of slash-and-burn agriculture – a method still used in their old stomping grounds today, so the researchers understand how it works.

"We know that for every 1 to 3 years you farm a piece of land, you need to let it lay fallow for 15 years to recover. In that time, trees and vegetation can grow back there while you slash and burn another area to plant in."

But what if you don't let the land lay fallow long enough to replenish itself? And what if you clear more and more fields to meet growing demands for food?

"We believe that's what happened," says Griffin. "The Maya stripped large areas of their landscape bare by over-farming."
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.

Over 112.5 species go extinct in the rainforest every day.
3 or more can be in rainforsest because is always raining Well one species goes extinct every 15 seconds


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The worst offenders are the underdevloped countries

China
India
Latin America
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read LIMITS OF GROWTH






The Limits to Growth (LTG) is a 1972 report on the computer simulation of exponential economic and population growth with a finite supply of resources. ... The report's authors are Donella H. Meadows, Dennis L. Meadows, Jørgen Randers, and William W. Behrens III, representing a team of 17 researchers.
Authors: Donella H. Meadows; Dennis L. Mea...
Published: 1972
ISBN: mw-parser-output cite.citation.mw-parse...
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There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go round
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?
Well this is the world we live in
And these are the hands we're given
Use them and let's start trying
To make it a place worth living in
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.
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bump
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its a human sardine can
under a msgnifying glass

---- trouble with hubble is its pointed at earth
the pictures are fake
the beam is real
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peace
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overpopulation is fake, the planet could supports tens of billions if we had proper dietary/health knowledge and didn't consume so much. Main reason for the overpopulation myth is our "neighbors" don't want us having a larger population than them thus being a militarythreat.
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.

Over 112.5 species go extinct in the rainforest every day.
3 or more can be in rainforsest because is always raining Well one species goes extinct every 15 seconds


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The worst offenders are the underdevloped countries

China
India
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the countryside is industrial farming
the woods are now the suburbs with house behind every tree
the cities reek of methane gas from overloaded sewers
the streets smell like urine and vomitus
the sky color has changed
the roads don't hold the traffic
subways don't either
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.

Over 112.5 species go extinct in the rainforest every day.
3 or more can be in rainforsest because is always raining Well one species goes extinct every 15 seconds


[link to www.google.ca (secure)]

The worst offenders are the underdevloped countries

China
India
Latin America
 Quoting: WhichisWitch
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whites over-pave
colors over breed
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.

Over 112.5 species go extinct in the rainforest every day.
3 or more can be in rainforsest because is always raining Well one species goes extinct every 15 seconds


[link to www.google.ca (secure)]

The worst offenders are the underdevloped countries

China
India
Latin America
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You see overpopulation is a problem if we are to remain using fossil fuels for energy.
There are many changes we could do that would allow for our population.
We arent doing them because of control measures in place to rule over us.
Everyone should have their own house and own gardens or community
I could go on
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Sorry about my mistake, OP, I agree with you about this thread! hf
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Changing one's mind is mature enough
I can accept an apology with restitution.
I decided at 14 in 71 that it would not be an act of love to bring kids into this situation.

There are few others like me [I think}

I have over 40 yrs study in this field so posting links is boring.


The UN in 71 warned nations to reduce population.
I did.
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Why didn't you try to convince the Pope to approve birth control and all your Mexicans friends to quit having babies? The US population has grown mostly because all your buddies from Mexico have moved here. I'm thinking like 80,000,000 or so. They are literally everywhere. I'm not dissing any in particular, there's just too damn many of them.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Hmmmm.....
Not sure i agree with the Big Bang theory.
Kind think that over population is due to
"a lot of little bangs in the back seat of
cars !!!
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A study through a computer model at MIT in 1971
examined the planet's assets and determined that the breaking point for human population is 3.1 billion ... after that bio-systems break down and mass-extinction ensues.

Over 112.5 species go extinct in the rainforest every day.
3 or more can be in rainforsest because is always raining Well one species goes extinct every 15 seconds


[link to www.google.ca (secure)]

The worst offenders are the underdevloped countries

China
India
Latin America
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So Bill Gates is your hero right and you want us to be responsible and take the vaccine?
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Sorry about my mistake, OP, I agree with you about this thread! hf
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Changing one's mind is mature enough
I can accept an apology with restitution.
I decided at 14 in 71 that it would not be an act of love to bring kids into this situation.

There are few others like me [I think}

I have over 40 yrs study in this field so posting links is boring.


The UN in 71 warned nations to reduce population.
I did.
 Quoting: WhichisWitch


Why didn't you try to convince the Pope to approve birth control and all your Mexicans friends to quit having babies? The US population has grown mostly because all your buddies from Mexico have moved here. I'm thinking like 80,000,000 or so. They are literally everywhere. I'm not dissing any in particular, there's just too damn many of them.
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They like Mexicans. Easier to control, I mean less carbon foot print ;)
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Guys and have you noticed that the government doesn't even step in to control our massive population. On the contrary, it stimulates people to have more kids and if the birth rate falls it starts bitching about low birth rates.. that supposed to be a good thing, no? In the, it's overpopulation is the governments fault.
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its all part of the leftist academic club of rome and so forth bullshit agenda...dont believe a word of that crap...its all part of them getting academic grants for their mostly useless and phoney research in the name of saving our planet...

Hitler was in the same believe with overpopulation and that was at a time with 2 Billion people...

anyone who believes in that diabolical people culling cult should start with themselfs if one is after depopulation...

with regards of species...no one tells you that they keep on discovering new species by the month...


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i live in a tent

im thinking of giving all my money [savings] to the gates foundation cause they support depopulation





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