HELP! Gullible sister- inlaw-husband dead 4 months fake Nigerian boyfriend. what to do???? | |
catnahalf
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catnahalf
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catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/26/2014 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | point out all the other people that this scam has been run on , she can listen to reality based reason ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57265436 The stupid in these in-laws is profound her older sister was taken for a fool in the same scam 3 yrs ago. I need to know without doubt should I intervene? This will likely cause a big family rift if I do but I feel like as the "smarter person" I should do something. I am just trying to weigh the consequences will the "officials" help or make things worse? |
cookie lady
User ID: 43753822 United States 04/26/2014 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you can't convince her that she is being victimized then you probably need mental health services to declare her incompetent and have someone assigned as a trustee to monitor her funds. If you have the money you could contact a lawyer and ask about creating a financial guardianship. A judge would probably issue an emergency order with a lawyer's help. If you can convince her to add you to her bank accounts you can stop her from withdrawing over a certain amount. You could speak to the bank manager at her bank and ask them to flag the account. You could set up an alert on her CCs to notify you if she spends money. You could cancel the Credit cards but probably not stop her from getting new ones |
Kirk
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 987000 United States 04/26/2014 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | point out all the other people that this scam has been run on , she can listen to reality based reason ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57265436 The stupid in these in-laws is profound her older sister was taken for a fool in the same scam 3 yrs ago. I need to know without doubt should I intervene? This will likely cause a big family rift if I do but I feel like as the "smarter person" I should do something. I am just trying to weigh the consequences will the "officials" help or make things worse? You can't fix stupid and bringing a government authority into your in-laws' family affairs is stupid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57317241 United States 04/26/2014 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell her to look here. [link to www.romancescam.com] There are dozens of sites dedicated to scams. Most romance scams are from Nigeria |
catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/26/2014 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she have any direct relatives Siblings, parents? How about a lawyer handling her husband's estate? She might be more easily convinced by one of them Quoting: cookie lady If you can't convince her that she is being victimized then you probably need mental health services to declare her incompetent and have someone assigned as a trustee to monitor her funds. If you have the money you could contact a lawyer and ask about creating a financial guardianship. A judge would probably issue an emergency order with a lawyer's help. If you can convince her to add you to her bank accounts you can stop her from withdrawing over a certain amount. You could speak to the bank manager at her bank and ask them to flag the account. You could set up an alert on her CCs to notify you if she spends money. You could cancel the Credit cards but probably not stop her from getting new ones Both her mother and father are passed on as they are also my spouses parents. Crap this is an awful situation my husband is going to try to talk some sense into her in the meantime I am going to fill her e-mail with Christian genocide in Africa and info on how much Africa hates US white Christians. |
catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/26/2014 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she have any direct relatives Siblings, parents? How about a lawyer handling her husband's estate? She might be more easily convinced by one of them Quoting: cookie lady If you can't convince her that she is being victimized then you probably need mental health services to declare her incompetent and have someone assigned as a trustee to monitor her funds. If you have the money you could contact a lawyer and ask about creating a financial guardianship. A judge would probably issue an emergency order with a lawyer's help. If you can convince her to add you to her bank accounts you can stop her from withdrawing over a certain amount. You could speak to the bank manager at her bank and ask them to flag the account. You could set up an alert on her CCs to notify you if she spends money. You could cancel the Credit cards but probably not stop her from getting new ones Both her mother and father are passed on as they are also my spouses parents. Crap this is an awful situation my husband is going to try to talk some sense into her in the meantime I am going to fill her e-mail with Christian genocide in Africa and info on how much Africa hates US white Christians. This is an extreme route to take but I pray it will wake her up enough to pull back! |
Kirk
User ID: 8304867 United States 04/26/2014 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell her to look here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57317241 [link to www.romancescam.com] There are dozens of sites dedicated to scams. Most romance scams are from Nigeria The father of Chelsea Clinton's husband got popped for ten million "Nigerian" fraud. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
catnahalf
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catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/26/2014 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know there are GLP'rs who can give me good advice. Declaring her incompetent would be ...difficult She is on the fast track to the bath house. For the first time in her life she has a little money and nobody can tell her what to do its a damn mess. FUCK why do I EVEN BOTHER THEY ARE NOT MY KIN, HELL I WAS ADOPTED my parents are not even my REAL parents. It is everything inside me that says this is wrong that makes me want to do something why do I even care if these people get screwed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50486882 United States 04/26/2014 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is 50 very sheltered never had a job doesn't even have a drivers license. Sometimes calling the police is a VERY bad idea. If I call the FBI can they protect her bank transactions without seizing the only money she has to live off of? I am not sure what is worse in this situation. Quoting: catnahalf We are all interconnected in some way. I think you know the answer. She needs help and maybe this is just one of the many reasons that you exist. I'ts like G_d is asking for your help. Would you turn him down? |
catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/26/2014 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is 50 very sheltered never had a job doesn't even have a drivers license. Sometimes calling the police is a VERY bad idea. If I call the FBI can they protect her bank transactions without seizing the only money she has to live off of? I am not sure what is worse in this situation. Quoting: catnahalf We are all interconnected in some way. I think you know the answer. She needs help and maybe this is just one of the many reasons that you exist. I'ts like G_d is asking for your help. Would you turn him down? This is why I am asking advise. I have travelled many states (east coast) worked from the age of 18 but I am not a world traveler, I am not all knowing and I know this. That is why ask for advise. There are consequences for every action. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57367852 United States 04/26/2014 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is 50 very sheltered never had a job doesn't even have a drivers license. Sometimes calling the police is a VERY bad idea. If I call the FBI can they protect her bank transactions without seizing the only money she has to live off of? I am not sure what is worse in this situation. Quoting: catnahalf It is illegal to participate in these Nigerian scams, so she would probably be arrested if you reported her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50486882 United States 04/26/2014 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research and read on the internet about romance schemes. See the link on above post from Kirk. Learn from the experiences of others. Then step in and take action to help your sister in law as she may not be able to help herself. It's the right thing to do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56796188 Canada 04/26/2014 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, let me get this straight... Your husband is going to go talk sense to his sister, who is 50, who's husband has been dead 4 months, because she's now been taken in by a Nigerian scammer? And you are adopted, but you're worried about getting involved with people who aren't even your kin, even though they'd only be kin by marriage anyway? So I'm guessing if you weren't adopted, they would actually be your blood kin by family right? And this sister-in-law with the dead husband has never had a job or drivers license, and you say you've never left the East Coast? ..... Just one question OP- How many wheels does your house have? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57367852 United States 04/26/2014 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nigeria - The 419 Coalition Website We Fight the Nigerian Scam with Education [link to home.rica.net] 419 Scams operate as follows: the target receives an unsolicited fax, email, or letter often concerning Nigeria or another African nation containing either a money laundering or other illegal proposal OR you may receive a Legal and Legitimate business proposal by normal means. Common variations on the Scam include "overinvoiced" or "double invoiced" oil or other supply and service contracts where your Bad Guys want to get the overage out of Nigeria (Classic 419); crude oil and other commodity deals (a form of Goods and Services 419); a "bequest" left you in a will (Will Scam 419); "money cleaning" where your Bad Guy has a lot of currency that needs to be "chemically cleaned" before it can be used and he needs the cost of the chemicals (Black Currency 419, also called Wash-Wash) ; "spoof banks" where there is supposedly money in your name already on deposit; "paying" for a purchase with a check larger than the amount required and asking for change to be advanced (cashier's check and money order 419); fake lottery 419; chat room and romance 419 (usually coupled with one of the other forms of 419); employment 419 (including secret shopper 419) ; and ordering items and commodities off "trading" and "auction" sites on the web and then cheating the seller. The variations of Advance Fee Fraud (419) are very creative and virtually endless, so do not consider the above as an all-inclusive list! At some point, the victim is asked to pay up front an Advance Fee of some sort, be it an "Advance Fee", "Transfer Tax", "Performance Bond", or to extend credit, grant COD privileges, send back "change" on an overage cashier's check or money order, whatever. If the victim pays the Fee, there are often many "Complications" which require still more advance payments until the victim either quits, runs out of money, or both. If the victim extends credit on a given transaction etc. he may also pay such fees ("nerfund" etc.), and also stiffed for the Goods or Service with NO Effective Recourse. Most 419 letters and emails originate from or are traceable back to Nigeria. However, some originate from other nations, mostly also West African nations such as Ghana, Togo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast ( Cote D'Ivoire ) etc. In most cases 419 emails from other nations (even European nations like the UK, the Netherlands, Spain etc. ) are also Nigerian in that the "Home Office" of the 419ers involved is Nigeria regardless of the apparent source of the contact materials. But there are occasionally some "local" copycats trying to emulate the success of the Nigerians, generally not very successfully. The Nigerian Scam is, according to published reports, the Third to Fifth largest industry in Nigeria. It is the 419 Coalition view that the elites from which the governing classes of Nigeria are drawn contain 419 Scammers which can make it difficult for victims seeking recourse in these matters. Monies stolen by 419 operations are very rarely recovered from Nigeria, although the Nigerian Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) when led by Nuhu Ribadu and Ibrahim Lamorde made some welcome progress in that regard for several years prior to 2008. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56796188 Canada 04/26/2014 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, come on, it's 2014. If the lady has internet and is chatting with bums in Nigeria, she has a damn TV too, and knows what a scam is. If she fell for this, it's only a matter of time before a white American cons her too. Try installing Net Nanny and finding the lady a damn hobby. Treat it the same as you would if your 20 year old daughter had no job and was bankrolling some African in an online relationship. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3063399 United States 04/26/2014 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | get a conservator appointed for her $$s before she gets swindled out of it! Get the ignorant bitch into court if you have to. But freeze her money for her own good. My ex wife lost $50k that way. Lonely woman not thinking clearly and desperate for the man they lost… yeah, cost her $50k before she realized it was a swindle - and then after the FBI showed up at the door investigating the guy in Kenya or someplace. |
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catnahalf
(OP) Deplorables assemble User ID: 36706549 United States 04/27/2014 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, let me get this straight... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56796188 Your husband is going to go talk sense to his sister, who is 50, who's husband has been dead 4 months, because she's now been taken in by a Nigerian scammer? And you are adopted, but you're worried about getting involved with people who aren't even your kin, even though they'd only be kin by marriage anyway? So I'm guessing if you weren't adopted, they would actually be your blood kin by family right? And this sister-in-law with the dead husband has never had a job or drivers license, and you say you've never left the East Coast? ..... Just one question OP- How many wheels does your house have? I have a brick house. I am only related by marriage They are originally from New York I was born in Florida your implication that I am somehow an inbreed is very insulting. |
catnahalf
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54724922 United States 04/27/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do not have any need/reason that is logical to help her. Your decision is purley emotional based on the Teaching of help everyone like Jesus. Or What would Jesus do... This scam is over a decade old now. If you get her out of this mess shes only going to run to another dramatic messy situation... My question for you that you have to ask yourself... 1. What benefit does she get out of your help? 2. What benefit do you get out of helping her? 3. Do you feel like you have to prevent people from suffering natural consequences? As in they suffer and you put self blame on because maybe you could have done something? 4. Do you have anyone else who is falling in life however they do help themselves and take advice? If you answered Yes to #4 that is your answer. She does not need your help at all. She is a grown ass woman. Let swine lay with swine...... You are not swine are you???? |
POE85 User ID: 35794714 United Kingdom 04/27/2014 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you can do is warn her and make it clear you're disgusted by her desire to run off with a negro, if that doesn't work, make a mockery of her for being SO FUCKING STUPID. As a race traitor, she deserves to get scammed anyway. |