Georgia governor signs law to drug test some welfare recipients | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46995084 Canada 04/30/2014 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I guess the first time someone uses drugs the needle just jumps into their arm or the pipe to their lips? The seriously addicted people I've known started as children, before they were even old enough to understand the consequences. Often these are children who are turned into addicts by adults offering them drugs until they are hooked, so they can then use them in the sex trade. It's not a lifestyle choice. |
HaroldWesterling
User ID: 47844629 United States 04/30/2014 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I guess the first time someone uses drugs the needle just jumps into their arm or the pipe to their lips? The seriously addicted people I've known started as children, before they were even old enough to understand the consequences. Often these are children who are turned into addicts by adults offering them drugs until they are hooked, so they can then use them in the sex trade. It's not a lifestyle choice. You are talking about a few extreme examples. I live in Georgia and I see most welfare recipients on a daily basis because I work in the city. They are making a choice to use drugs and should not be on the taxpayers dime. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46995084 Canada 04/30/2014 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The easy answer as to who benefits from this law is predators and those involved in the child sex trade. Give the addict no way out, and no hand up, guess what they're stuck doing? I would also expect an increase in violent crime with such a law, and of course a corresponding rise in policing costs. But I guess what America really needs is more police! |
HaroldWesterling
User ID: 47844629 United States 04/30/2014 06:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The easy answer as to who benefits from this law is predators and those involved in the child sex trade. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46995084 Give the addict no way out, and no hand up, guess what they're stuck doing? I would also expect an increase in violent crime with such a law, and of course a corresponding rise in policing costs. But I guess what America really needs is more police! So the government should use taxpayer funds to help everyone who uses drugs? As a taxpayer why should anyone have a claim on my labor? Isn't that the definition of slavery? I work so that they can benefit somehow?? I've got a way out for addicts who resort to crime to feed their habit...lock them up with no drugs, have them dry out and then try to rehabilitate them. |
Giohater
User ID: 27905037 United States 04/30/2014 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So presumably the state is going to offer counselling and a treatment program? And by the way someone who is addicted cannot put it back down, by definition. Not without help. Really I was addicted to cigarettes and managed to put them down without counceling or therapy. I used self restraint. Gio |
Giohater
User ID: 27916393 United States 04/30/2014 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I guess the first time someone uses drugs the needle just jumps into their arm or the pipe to their lips? The seriously addicted people I've known started as children, before they were even old enough to understand the consequences. Often these are children who are turned into addicts by adults offering them drugs until they are hooked, so they can then use them in the sex trade. It's not a lifestyle choice. No sir it still is a choice, it's the parents choice to monitor and raise there children. Stop being such a negitive Nancy and come away from the liberal left a bit. Last Edited by Giohater on 04/30/2014 06:22 AM Gio |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3558730 United States 04/30/2014 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All kinds of things? Lets skip them tho And teachers After all they just make the laws and instruct Children We need to test them Otha's that don't Make the laws cause eating is wrong if You are poor |
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User ID: 50410975 United States 04/30/2014 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I guess the first time someone uses drugs the needle just jumps into their arm or the pipe to their lips? The seriously addicted people I've known started as children, before they were even old enough to understand the consequences. Often these are children who are turned into addicts by adults offering them drugs until they are hooked, so they can then use them in the sex trade. It's not a lifestyle choice. You are talking about a few extreme examples. I live in Georgia and I see most welfare recipients on a daily basis because I work in the city. They are making a choice to use drugs and should not be on the taxpayers dime. My thoughts exactly. If they can't afford to take care of the kids yet they can afford drugs then they don't need kids, they need the state to take the kids. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56727313 United States 04/30/2014 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enact this nationwide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56727313 Provide "FREE" drug treatment ONCE! If the person leaps back off the wagon, NO MORE WELFARE and NO MORE FREE TREATMENT...EVER! People need to relearn the concept of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! A little extreme but I like the way you think. Personal responsibility is an "extreme" concept? Until very recently in human history, you either took care of yourself...OR YOU DIED! I wouldn't call it "extreme", just motivating. |
Giohater
User ID: 27911356 United States 04/30/2014 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enact this nationwide. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56727313 Provide "FREE" drug treatment ONCE! If the person leaps back off the wagon, NO MORE WELFARE and NO MORE FREE TREATMENT...EVER! People need to relearn the concept of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! A little extreme but I like the way you think. Personal responsibility is an "extreme" concept? Until very recently in human history, you either took care of yourself...OR YOU DIED! I wouldn't call it "extreme", just motivating. Im not saying personal responsibility is extreme dude. But a death sentence after one relapse dose sound a little draconian? Gio |
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Mango Positive
User ID: 1178327 United States 04/30/2014 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This, like all of the other "Test the poor" programs enacted by other states, will result in increased spending on tests with very little detection, resulting in a massive loss to the taxpayer (and I pay taxes in Georgia). What the fuck is wrong with you stupid hicks? The poor people are REALLY the problem in the world? You stupid motherfuckers are looking in the wrong direction. "Now, to balance the scale, I'd like to talk about some things that bring us together, things that point out our similarities instead of our differences. 'Cause that's all you ever hear about in this country. It's our differences. That's all the media and the politicians are ever talking about—the things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That's the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they, the rich, can run off with all the fucking money! Fairly simple thing. Happens to work. You know? Anything different—that's what they're gonna talk about—race, religion, ethnic and national background, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality, anything they can do to keep us fighting with each other, so that they can keep going to the bank! You know how I define the economic and social classes in this country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class. Keep 'em showing up at those jobs." -George Carlin If you can't see that you and your predjudices are being PLAYED, then you're stupid. 'Faith' is the acknowledgment that you have absolutely no justification for the silly shit you believe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27771439 United States 04/30/2014 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This, like all of the other "Test the poor" programs enacted by other states, will result in increased spending on tests with very little detection, resulting in a massive loss to the taxpayer (and I pay taxes in Georgia). Quoting: Mango Positive What the fuck is wrong with you stupid hicks? The poor people are REALLY the problem in the world? You stupid motherfuckers are looking in the wrong direction. "Now, to balance the scale, I'd like to talk about some things that bring us together, things that point out our similarities instead of our differences. 'Cause that's all you ever hear about in this country. It's our differences. That's all the media and the politicians are ever talking about—the things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That's the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they, the rich, can run off with all the fucking money! Fairly simple thing. Happens to work. You know? Anything different—that's what they're gonna talk about—race, religion, ethnic and national background, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality, anything they can do to keep us fighting with each other, so that they can keep going to the bank! You know how I define the economic and social classes in this country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class. Keep 'em showing up at those jobs." -George Carlin If you can't see that you and your predjudices are being PLAYED, then you're stupid. They just don't get it. The state will order the kits before the appeals even start. The Gov. and his cohorts in the legislature know this will never stand judicial scrutiny but their buddy, the guy who owns the drug testing kit manufacturing company stands to make a billion off the hicks. Fuck'm, I say. They voted for the criminals. |
Rogue Coder
User ID: 2576400 United States 04/30/2014 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess: you believe he was "born that way", much like the homosexuals are "born that way". Since when did we make lifestyle choices an excuse and therefore kill off all morality all in the same of unicorns and rainbows? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258659 United States 04/30/2014 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't the people here have any idea just how much it is going to cost to drug test welfare recipients? Doesn't anyone realize that many politicians pushing for this, own or directly profit from the companies doing the testing? Doesn't anyone realize that when they tried this before, less than 2% tested positive, and it wound up costing millions more than it saved? Jesus, is this the United States of Amnesia? Or is everyone just this dumb? Also, drug tests are VERY easy to pass. A Whizzinator or fake urine works 100% of the times. Stupid waste of time and money. It sounds good in theory, but lets cut the bullshit. |