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Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?

 
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Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
I want you to consider how sick that is and to please read the thread below. I am not trying to make you believe anything. Just to get you think in a different way.

People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer.

These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!

You know that is wrong.

Thread: The whole idea that we have to be tortured and suffer to grow into enlightened beings is insane.
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Do you feel that you desire your suffering and your pain?

Is your father being a loving father by beating you to show you the way?

Well?
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Was he only doing it because he loved you?
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This is an example of GLP at its worst.

But, soon everyone will know GLP.

But no OP, my Dad was nice, a good father who never beat me. Does that help you in your quest?
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Are you a flawed child that needs punishment to be shown the way?
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he loved his liquor more
I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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he loved his liquor more
 Quoting: Brussel Sprout


To be clever is not the same as being wise.
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he loved his liquor more
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To be clever is not the same as being wise.
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yeah he was neither
I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us
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no and no my father had a personality disorder and he was jealous of us for receiving affection from our mother
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
he loved his liquor more
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To be clever is not the same as being wise.
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yeah he was neither
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I was talking about you.
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he loved his liquor more
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To be clever is not the same as being wise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


yeah he was neither
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I was talking about you.
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I have flaws, I was just as surprised as you when I found out!

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the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us
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There is a deeper message here. Think deeper!
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no and no my father had a personality disorder and he was jealous of us for receiving affection from our mother
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There is a deeper message here. Think deeper!
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Never have I witnessed someone transform themselves so selflessly as dear old dad.

hf


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Never have I witnessed someone transform themselves so selflessly as dear old dad.

hf


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Are you talking about the god of the bible?
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the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us
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There is a deeper message here. Think deeper!
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sure, just blame God for everything, but hating God will get you nowhere and then you can spend your days making threads on a conspiracy site, good deal, that's a plan
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
proverbs
3:12
For the LORD corrects those he loves, just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.
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Never have I witnessed someone transform themselves so selflessly as dear old dad.

hf


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Are you talking about the god of the bible?
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No. My dad. He used to hit pretty hard. chuckle


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the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us
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There is a deeper message here. Think deeper!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


sure, just blame God for everything, but hating God will get you nowhere and then you can spend your days making threads on a conspiracy site, good deal, that's a plan
 Quoting: furPete'sSake


The point is that very few people even know who the being that they call "god" really is.

Do you? I doubt it.
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Never have I witnessed someone transform themselves so selflessly as dear old dad.

hf


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 Quoting: halman


Are you talking about the god of the bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


No. My dad. He used to hit pretty hard. chuckle


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That explains a lot.
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proverbs
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For the LORD corrects those he loves, just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.
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Love your abuser?
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Never have I witnessed someone transform themselves so selflessly as dear old dad.

hf


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Are you talking about the god of the bible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


No. My dad. He used to hit pretty hard. chuckle


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That explains a lot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Such as?


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Do you feel that you desire your suffering and your pain?

Is your father being a loving father by beating you to show you the way?

Well?
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There is beating someone, then there is physical punishment using lashes, belt, switch, paddle in an appropriate manner...

I was subjected to being spanked by many of those items. I thank my dad for correcting me in this manner, because in every case, I was wrong. I hold no ill will toward my dad for doing this; quite the opposite in fact.

My dad never struck me without good cause and he only did so on my behind with one of the items I mentioned above. He never did it out of rage or malice. My three siblings received their fair share of punishment as well when they required physical correction.

So, to answer your question. NO, I would not say your father is loving if he is beating you, but if he is chastising you correctly, then YES, most definitely he is showing that he loves you.
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My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
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proverbs
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For the LORD corrects those he loves, just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.
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Love your abuser?
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Hebrews 12:6-11
For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.
If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. 11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
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Do you feel that you desire your suffering and your pain?

Is your father being a loving father by beating you to show you the way?

Well?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


There is beating someone, then there is physical punishment using lashes, belt, switch, paddle in an appropriate manner...

I was subjected to being spanked by many of those items. I thank my dad for correcting me in this manner, because in every case, I was wrong. I hold no ill will toward my dad for doing this; quite the opposite in fact.

My dad never struck me without good cause and he only did so on my behind with one of the items I mentioned above. He never did it out of rage or malice. My three siblings received their fair share of punishment as well when they required physical correction.

So, to answer your question. NO, I would not say your father is loving if he is beating you, but if he is chastising you correctly, then YES, most definitely he is showing that he loves you.
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We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
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"People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer."

"These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!"

---- I can honestly say that I have not heard one person say what you claim.
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
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To repeat myself.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
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My mom beat my ass when I was bad, because she loved me.

She instilled within me a sense of consequence for my actions. I love her with all my heart.

Society was better because of it.
I am better because of it.

Just yesterday, I saw a child whose mom complained loudly about her child's horrible behavior and then turned right around and rewarded it by caving to the child's noisy demands for treats.

I have seen this a million times over. Children have no sense of consequence because libtards equate correction with abuse. They'll piss and moan about how terrible and unruly children are today, and yet they refuse (or are too mentally retarded) to see that they are the root cause.

I'm not so naive as to believe that physical abuse is not a problem, but abuse comes in a variety of flavors, and rearing a child with no respect or sense of consequence is just as abusive, IMO. These children tend to grow even more awful than the people that raise them. That's why each generation grows progressively worse. People whine about the fallout, but don't own up to their failure as parents.

They cry, "I don't understand why my child is so bad! I did everything I could. I'm a good parent and gave them everything they wanted! I don't understand why my child is so rebellious - why my child hates me - why my child does drugs - why my child has sex-... blah blah blah..."

Physical abuse is beating your child without love or direction, in spite and anger...

I carried on my family tradition. I have a firm but very loving relationship with my children and they respect me. They are not maladjusted or spiteful. They know when they screw up and they know when there will be consequences. That will carry through into their adulthood. I love my kids and I always let them know it. Therein lies the difference.
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"People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer."

"These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!"

---- I can honestly say that I have not heard one person say what you claim.
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That is why I am here!

Duh!





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