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Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?

 
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My mom beat my ass when I was bad, because she loved me.

She instilled within me a sense of consequence for my actions. I love her with all my heart.

Society was better because of it.
I am better because of it.

Just yesterday, I saw a child whose mom complained loudly about her child's horrible behavior and then turned right around and rewarded it by caving to the child's noisy demands for treats.

I have seen this a million times over. Children have no sense of consequence because libtards equate correction with abuse. They'll piss and moan about how terrible and unruly children are today, and yet they refuse (or are too mentally retarded) to see that they are the root cause.

I'm not so naive as to believe that physical abuse is not a problem, but abuse comes in a variety of flavors, and rearing a child with no respect or sense of consequence is just as abusive, IMO. These children tend to grow even more awful than the people that raise them. That's why each generation grows progressively worse. People whine about the fallout, but don't own up to their failure as parents.

They cry, "I don't understand why my child is so bad! I did everything I could. I'm a good parent and gave them everything they wanted! I don't understand why my child is so rebellious - why my child hates me - why my child does drugs - why my child has sex-... blah blah blah..."

Physical abuse is beating your child without love or direction, in spite and anger...

I carried on my family tradition. I have a firm but very loving relationship with my children and they respect me. They are not maladjusted or spiteful. They know when they screw up and they know when there will be consequences. That will carry through into their adulthood. I love my kids and I always let them know it. Therein lies the difference.
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To repeat myself again.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...mom.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
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My father beat us because he was a raging alcoholic with mental illness.

I forgave him years ago because I knew he was sick, and not just from the alcohol.My brother never could forgive and I never judged him for it. I couldn't blame him really.

Some of the hardest things I've gone through in life have turned out to be life lessons that served me well. And some of them didn't seem to serve a purpose except to torture me.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
 Quoting: nah™


To repeat myself.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Oh...

Then nope, God always protects me from harm, it's one of his promises.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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Are you talking about the god of the bible?
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No. My dad. He used to hit pretty hard. chuckle


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That explains a lot.
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Such as?


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It helps me to better understand the asinine posts you make in other threads.
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
 Quoting: nah™


To repeat myself.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Oh...

Then nope, God always protects me from harm, it's one of his promises.
 Quoting: nah™


Please read the link above and then explain how the abuse of your father is any different than the abuse of the god of the bible. Thanks.
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No. My dad. He used to hit pretty hard. chuckle


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That explains a lot.
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Such as?


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It helps me to better understand the asinine posts you make in other threads.
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Na, can't pin that on Dad (not the dad your referencing). That just comes naturally. Sorry your thread didn't go the right way.

peace


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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
My father beat us because he was a raging alcoholic with mental illness.

I forgave him years ago because I knew he was sick, and not just from the alcohol.My brother never could forgive and I never judged him for it. I couldn't blame him really.

Some of the hardest things I've gone through in life have turned out to be life lessons that served me well. And some of them didn't seem to serve a purpose except to torture me.
 Quoting: geminilion


To repeat myself one more time.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.


Please read the link above and then explain how the abuse of your father is any different than the abuse of the god of the bible. Thanks.
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
 Quoting: nah™


To repeat myself.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Oh...

Then nope, God always protects me from harm, it's one of his promises.
 Quoting: nah™


Please read the link above and then explain how the abuse of your father is any different than the abuse of the god of the bible. Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


It's not, my father is an asshole so God was most likely using my grandfather to do his dirty work. I think people get punished even before they do some major fuck ups since there is no timing with God.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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He did it because he is an asshole and i dont speak to him. The concept of god is just fear mongering. I do not need fear to be a decent human.
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He did it because he is an asshole and i dont speak to him. The concept of god is just fear mongering. I do not need fear to be a decent human.
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There is much more to it than that, but good for you!
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05/12/2014 01:14 PM
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My father beat me because he was an immature, drug-addled asshole, and no, I don't love him for it. I love him because he is my dad.

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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
My dad never beat me but he was beaten by my drunk grandfather, pretty bad from the stories I've heard. My dad in turn never drank or abused anyone physically, but he was very indifferent with my grandfather from what I remember. Most everyone just tolerated him but nobody stopped loving him. Even my grandmother who suffered the most by him, he beat up the boy she loved and told her that if she didn't marry him he would kill the other boy. So my grandmother married him so the boy she loved could live.
 Quoting: nah™


To repeat myself.

We...are...not...talking...about...your...father.

We...are...talking...about...the...god...of...the...bible.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Oh...

Then nope, God always protects me from harm, it's one of his promises.
 Quoting: nah™


In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because He is never wrong.
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In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because he is never wrong.
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The perfect victim.
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the damn crazy schoolteachers were the ones who beat us
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There is a deeper message here. Think deeper!
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sure, just blame God for everything, but hating God will get you nowhere and then you can spend your days making threads on a conspiracy site, good deal, that's a plan
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God is supposedly omnipotent, all powerful, all knowing. that means he knew everything before he created. that means everything is in his plans... everything that happens was already in his script before he created.

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In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because he is never wrong.
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The perfect victim.
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Lol. No different than if a tornado were to sweep you up and dash you to the ground. What could you do about it? Nothing! You would have to just accept it for what it is.

Satan thought Job was the perfect victim too. Guess what? That plan didn't work out the way he wanted it to did it?
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Never got beaten by my father. But I thank him for giving me best lessons on the rule of :for every action there is result.,.followed by reaction.,.
After i grew up. . .I realised that.,. Thanks to my parents. . . Life will have hard time to beat me.
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In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because he is never wrong.
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The perfect victim.
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Lol. No different than if a tornado were to sweep you up and dash you to the ground. What could you do about it? Nothing! You would have to just accept it for what it is.
 Quoting: Osmium76


OP doesn't understand how the supernatural world works. Most of us don't but I'm certainly not going to go against it!
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because he is never wrong.
 Quoting: Osmium76


The perfect victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Lol. No different than if a tornado were to sweep you up and dash you to the ground. What could you do about it? Nothing! You would have to just accept it for what it is.

Satan thought Job was the perfect victim too. Guess what? That plan didn't work out the way he wanted it to did it?
 Quoting: Osmium76


Do about it? Know the truth.

Why would your "god" let Job be tortured in such a way? Just to prove Satan wrong? A bet? Just an egotistical challenge? With Job and his family as the victim?

What is wrong with you? Think!
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In that case, I deserve anything He does to me or for me, because he is never wrong.
 Quoting: Osmium76


The perfect victim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805490


Lol. No different than if a tornado were to sweep you up and dash you to the ground. What could you do about it? Nothing! You would have to just accept it for what it is.

Satan thought Job was the perfect victim too. Guess what? That plan didn't work out the way he wanted it to did it?
 Quoting: Osmium76


Do about it? Know the truth.

Why would your "god" let Job be tortured in such a way? Just to prove Satan wrong? A bet? Just an egotistical challenge? With Job and his family as the victim?

What is wrong with you? Think!
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It is called faith OP. You either have it or you don't.

Romans 1:17-32
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I think I have said enough.

Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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It is called faith OP. You either have it or you don't.
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Faith is just another word for ignorance. Ignorance of who and what you really are as a human being.

You would rather stay ignorant and not know the truth.

Fine, then move on.
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I got so pissed one time I actually gave my wife a swat. Later that night she rode me like a bucking bronco.
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Moms do most of the childhood beatings.
Dad's away at work.

Nobody wants to admit their psycho-mom beat them?

Liberals. Sheesh.
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Moms do most of the childhood beatings.
Dad's away at work.

Nobody wants to admit their psycho-mom beat them?

Liberals. Sheesh.
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Read the fucking thread before posting.
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I want you to consider how sick that is and to please read the thread below. I am not trying to make you believe anything. Just to get you think in a different way.

People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer.

These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!

You know that is wrong.

Thread: The whole idea that we have to be tortured and suffer to grow into enlightened beings is insane.
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Oh, for 'god's' sake you need some help
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Moms do most of the childhood beatings.
Dad's away at work.

Nobody wants to admit their psycho-mom beat them?

Liberals. Sheesh.
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Read the fucking thread before posting.
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thread was stupid. Rather talk about moms.
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Moms do most of the childhood beatings.
Dad's away at work.

Nobody wants to admit their psycho-mom beat them?

Liberals. Sheesh.
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Read the fucking thread before posting.
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thread was stupid. Rather talk about moms.
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I bet you would. Talk about anything, but what is important.
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Re: Did your father beat you because he loved you? Do you love him for it?
I want you to consider how sick that is and to please read the thread below. I am not trying to make you believe anything. Just to get you think in a different way.

People are told that "god" loves us when he tortures us and causes us to suffer.

These are just Stockholm Syndrome victims. They love their own abusers!

You know that is wrong.

Thread: The whole idea that we have to be tortured and suffer to grow into enlightened beings is insane.
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Oh, for 'god's' sake you need some help
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Ha,ha. Not from you I don't.
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(waves hand)

This is not the thread you're looking for...move along.

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The God of the bible demanded child sacrifice.

But, was that a new thing or was it common?

Hehe you all know it was common, so, Abraham was obying the norms of the day.

Hmm, how does Jesus work, as a Father? They made him a boy sacrifice in Roman light when he left the world scene, so, we don't get to see him as a man, just a dead little boy.

But I don't think he died, I don't need his sacrifice. I do not need any man to die for me. For me, Jesus was a father, and that's just the true scandal of history.
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Moms do most of the childhood beatings.
Dad's away at work.

Nobody wants to admit their psycho-mom beat them?

Liberals. Sheesh.
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Read the fucking thread before posting.
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thread was stupid. Rather talk about moms.
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I bet you would. Talk about anything, but what is important.
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You're just trying to demonize fathers. You just might be a shill.





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